People are making it sound like we can just go into the Night Market solo and run around with a zerg-- "soft-grouped," I guess you would call it. But when I went in on PCEU a short while ago, I couldn't see any other players around, and I got insta-killed (twice) by the first "mob" I encountered just inside the entry to the zone, so I'm not sure how I'm supposed to find any other players to zerg around with.

And I won't even get into how long it took me just to find the plaza so I could do the introductory quest, because I was running around Fargrave looking for a way in-- but apparently the only way to get in is to take a wayshrine in? So that was fun.

I want to give this new group content a chance-- and yes, I know it's group content, not solo content-- but it seems to be on the level of difficulty of a hard-mode veteran trial or something. I don't expect everything in the game to be accessible for me and completable by me, but I'm hoping to at least give this new content a chance before deciding whether to pkay it or forget it. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'll even be able to give it a try, the way it's looking right now.

Maybe it will be different on PCNA, but PCEU is looking like a complete no-go at the hours when I play, because apparently there aren't enough players online at those hours who are interested in this new content.

My initial experience with Night Market left a sour impression because nobody seemed to be around and I was constantly dying trying to get the quests done.

But eventually more players showed up, I just started tagging along with a group of about 10 others. I was able to get some quests done, I got a 3 skirmishes done. It was fun. Then it evaporated and I'm left alone in the Night Market again.

So it gets real fun when you can find people. But surprisingly there doesn't seem to be very many people participating on the first night. Hopefully it picks up. Because without a population, this thing isn't going to work.

I managed to get in about 800 faction points, nice start and I can see this being a lot of fun if the people show up.

Ez mode
https://youtu.be/USy8SpddEz4

Definitely a group thing but when you go in and see no one around, that kind of makes it annoying.

Don't know much about NM, but if the content is that hard and players are split into three factions, it's pretty much a dead zone on arrival.

and i'm done GF wasn't working can't get or find a group. frustration is running high i'm out too double hockey sticks i'm out of this event.

madman65 wrote: »

I want to enjoy the game, I DON`T want to be frustrated. Looks like my account will go into cold storage ESO.

If you don't enjoy group content, don't do group content. The previous content is still accessible. Nothing has been taken away.

It's going to come back twice more, and my guess is after that it will be nerfed like Craglorn and be a permanent addition.

the difficulty is indeed frustrating in combat.
i did find Werewolf Behemoth transformations in Sorrow's Friend, which are very fun.


You can luckily do most of the daily quests with a stealth build though.
here is mine:
- Nightblade's Shadowy Disguise.
- Vampire stage 4 for invisible sprint.
- i subclassed into Shadow and Storm Calling for extra Stamina and Magicka recovery.
- Darloc Brae for extra recovery and stealth.
- Jailbreaker for extra stamina recovery and speed.
my character is also a Wood Elf which helps a little with Stamina, stealth detection, and movement speed.

I think main issue is people are finding it hard to pick up a group because the zone instances are empty and the different factions, quests etx make it confusing to know whether you can join with or without guild / group finder support.

I am not having this issue but my partner who is only in small guilds is. She basically gave up and may try again on the weekend.

frogthroat wrote: »

Yes, it's a group zone. I solo vet DLC dungeons and went there with my solo character. While waiting for grouping with my guildies, I had a generic PO build on and yes, it was tough but mostly doable. A boss took ages, though. Once I had some in a group I had to switch to a non-PO setup and noticed immediately that it's not really going to work solo, so I went to the central market and waited for the rest of my guildies to arrive.

It's a group area. Go as a group, or follow a group. Don't wait for anyone to pick you up when you die, just respawn. The respawn places are quite close so it's not far to run back to the fight.

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

For those of us who checked out the Night Market and passing on it as it does not suit our tastes or playstyle, was it really necessary to make this week's addition to the seasonal tome challenges Night Market focused? I mean, beyond the first golden pursuit (starter quest), I won't be doing any of the golden pursuits - and I'm fine with that, but having a seasonal tomes task that is also Night Market seems quite like adding insult to injury. I was fine passing on the Night Market but now am more than a little peeved having it contaminate tomes as well.

That's my main issue.

We need to grind NM, with groups having completely different quests and goals due to different faction, and gather 2000 Favor to get the Tomes event.
2000 Favor is half way the grind to unlock the new house fully. Is a very long and tedius grind.

SANGUARI wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

People are making it sound like we can just go into the Night Market solo and run around with a zerg-- "soft-grouped," I guess you would call it. But when I went in on PCEU a short while ago, I couldn't see any other players around, and I got insta-killed (twice) by the first "mob" I encountered just inside the entry to the zone, so I'm not sure how I'm supposed to find any other players to zerg around with.

And I won't even get into how long it took me just to find the plaza so I could do the introductory quest, because I was running around Fargrave looking for a way in-- but apparently the only way to get in is to take a wayshrine in? So that was fun.

I want to give this new group content a chance-- and yes, I know it's group content, not solo content-- but it seems to be on the level of difficulty of a hard-mode veteran trial or something. I don't expect everything in the game to be accessible for me and completable by me, but I'm hoping to at least give this new content a chance before deciding whether to pkay it or forget it. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'll even be able to give it a try, the way it's looking right now.

Maybe it will be different on PCNA, but PCEU is looking like a complete no-go at the hours when I play, because apparently there aren't enough players online at those hours who are interested in this new content.

You’re wrong, just type +zerg tomorrow I’ll carry you :P we already smashed 2750 points, EUPC.

Don’t get why you want harder overworld content. First time there’s anything slightly challenging and forum is full of “I can’t solo group content” posts xD hello, this is MMO.

Event isn’t even hard. Also you can completely skip it, just get your motif and don’t continue, there’s not even that much reward in it.

Game is already extremely easy, only vet trials and DLC dungeons are actually fun.

Stop pushing this, I’m afraid they’ll take it in the wrong direction.

Sorry but this is a step in the wrong direction. 😅

BamaCajun wrote: »

erickhwk wrote: »

BamaCajun wrote: »

erickhwk wrote: »

madman65 wrote: »

I want to enjoy the game, I DON`T want to be frustrated. Looks like my account will go into cold storage ESO.

Your source of frustration is also the source of joy for several people. We don't always get what we want, do we?

Well, as a 4-year ESO Plus member, when I’m paying for it then I should get what I want! 😅

Well, I’ve been a beta tester and an ESO Plus subscriber for 12 years now, and I’m having a blast. Are you really trying to play the "but I’m paying for it" card?

Imagine being frustrated just because you can't solo a trial or other content specifically designed for groups.

I’m just saying that it’s those of us who are paying that keeps the game going, and don’t even try to deny that…money, money, money!
And if this was advertised as a group-only event then okay that’s understandable. 😅

It's litteraly written in the announcement post:

"Note that many of the event zone’s challenges were designed for groups in mind, so be prepared for a tough fight if you’re venturing into the zone solo."

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

2000 Favor is half way the grind to unlock the new house fully. Is a very long and tedius grind.

you know you have several weeks to complete this, right?

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

madman65 wrote: »

I want to enjoy the game, I DON`T want to be frustrated. Looks like my account will go into cold storage ESO.

On another note, Zos I find the night market too easy. Me n my duo beat many of the bosses ourselves, including the roaming ones in the first two districts we went to, the ones that are not the Parch.

For this reason I think you should consider giving the difficulty a buff for serious pvers who are used to IA.

Then if people find the difficulty too much, you can make Vengeance templates for them and test it out for a week.

Thank you for making me almost spit out my coffee.

While I get the humor you're putting into this post..

I kind of agree... the content wasn't that bad. I went in solo at first while I was waiting for some guildies to log on and the first mob I ran into I.. well.. let's not talk about that.

It is meant for group content - I don't get why everyone is throwing a fit.

Shoot... I remember for years reading on the forums about how easy the game had become.. people were getting mad update after update because they were "making it more accessible" or making it less challanging as a whole etc.. and now people are complaining about this content being too hard.

The content is supposed to be hard.. the content is meant to be grouped...

Don't listen to the haters ZoS - there are tons of things in the game for solo's to do. My group had a blast last night playing this and didn't find it "too hard".. it was just the right amount of hard.

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

madman65 wrote: »

I want to enjoy the game, I DON`T want to be frustrated. Looks like my account will go into cold storage ESO.

On another note, Zos I find the night market too easy. Me n my duo beat many of the bosses ourselves, including the roaming ones in the first two districts we went to, the ones that are not the Parch.

For this reason I think you should consider giving the difficulty a buff for serious pvers who are used to IA.

Then if people find the difficulty too much, you can make Vengeance templates for them and test it out for a week.

Thank you for making me almost spit out my coffee.

While I get the humor you're putting into this post..

I kind of agree... the content wasn't that bad. I went in solo at first while I was waiting for some guildies to log on and the first mob I ran into I.. well.. let's not talk about that.

It is meant for group content - I don't get why everyone is throwing a fit.

Shoot... I remember for years reading on the forums about how easy the game had become.. people were getting mad update after update because they were "making it more accessible" or making it less challanging as a whole etc.. and now people are complaining about this content being too hard.

The content is supposed to be hard.. the content is meant to be grouped...

Don't listen to the haters ZoS - there are tons of things in the game for solo's to do. My group had a blast last night playing this and didn't find it "too hard".. it was just the right amount of hard.

I am one of those players lol I get so frustrated wondering why zos makes all their newest content softer than wet tissue paper and then see here on the forums that said content is allegedly "Too difficult and an insult to the community".

I was actually shocked they had the courage here to make Night Market challenging and not totally accessible to people who dont want to work together. You can only get so far solo/duo. And that actually made it MORE fun. Its an MMO for crying out loud, wheres the hard "mass multiplayer" content?

Please for the love of Shor @ZOS_GinaBruno tell Zos to not listen to the forum posts asking you for softer content or to nerf this. There's room for both and the game desperately needs more content like the Night Market, its awesome.

The only criticism I guess I could really give is the loot hasn't been all that great, but I mean it comes with a free house thats very stylish so I can't complain there too much.

The house is bad ass - I can't wait to finish work today to migrate my stuff to it.. and it's free!

Same vibe on the loot.. my only thought is that maybe they don't have the resources anymore to make new sets (or it's coming down the line) but they still wanted to give goodies so they made it random bag of sets.

FWIW - I have gotten a few sticker book items so I'm not complaining on that front but yeah.. bravo ZoS.