U50 Feedback Thread for Tamriel Tomes New Features and QoL changes

ZOS_Kevin · April 13

This is the official feedback thread for the U50 PTS-specific Tamriel Tome. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:

Were you able to select between the two PTS Tomes? PTS U49 and PTS U50 will be added to all PTS accounts.
Do the new Weekly Challenges function correctly?
Were you able to reroll Weekly Challenges for Gold once you were out of Challenge Reroll currency?
When the PTS Season end, did the Tome autospend your points down to a 2000 Tome Point cap?
Was the end of Season pop-up clear?
Any other feedback?

thepandalore · April 14

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DoofusMax · April 14

Short answer? No idea. The U50 Tome was not available anywhere that I could see under the Tomes menu (F4).

Kudos for adding some space between the "Next Page" and "Exit" controls, though.

Ravenshadow6513 · April 14

I just keep getting an error message that says: "You cannot access that right now." The icon in the top menu is grayed out and hitting the keybind also gives the error message.

DoofusMax · April 14

And a follow-up on this one, too. The U50 Tome showed up this morning, including a book-looking button in the upper left of the Tome page (next to "View Challenges") which seems to be to access other tomes. Clicking it does nothing, so the U49 Tome is currently inaccessible by any means I can discern.

I received the five weekly rerolls, but did not see anything about rerolls for gold. My working hypothesis is that this does not kick in until the player has no weekly rerolls left.

PeacefulAnarchy · April 14

DoofusMax wrote: »

I received the five weekly rerolls, but did not see anything about rerolls for gold. My working hypothesis is that this does not kick in until the player has no weekly rerolls left.

I used up all my rerolls and still saw no option to reroll for gold

Ravenshadow6513 · April 14

It showed the U50 Tome, but I couldn't figure out how to view the U49 Tome. I looked in the help article in-game, but there's no mention. Also, I have 14 rerolls available, which I thought was limited to 5 rerolls. Note on this: on live servers I currently have 8 rerolls - 3 rolled over from last week. I'm not sure if this is intended or not.

DoofusMax · April 14

One very minor issue with the weekly challenge on fencing 1000 gold worth of goods. If someone has the Haggling perk from the Thieves Guild skill line and/or the Infamous perk from the Craft tree, those increase the gold gained from fencing (up to +35% with both) and the challenge works from gold gained, not base value. I'm not complaining since I worked relatively hard to get those perks and am enjoying the returns from them, but I'm not sure if this is intended behavior.

LunaFlora · April 15

hi i have not been to PTS so no idea if there are furniture packs in the new Tome, but regardless:

it would be really helpful if we could get the option to acquire furniture packs from Tamriel Tomes multiple times, i would love having more of the new High isle fireplace.

shadoza · April 15

Were you able to select between the two PTS Tomes? PTS U49 and PTS U50 will be added to all PTS accounts. I only see PTS U50. How to get the U49 to show?

Do the new Weekly Challenges function correctly? I have one called dynamic Encounters. I cannot find one. Perhaps a better description on where to find one. Hopefully they are not quests that are completed already.

Were you able to reroll Weekly Challenges for Gold once you were out of Challenge Reroll currency? No. I ran my rerolls out and could find no option to purchase more.
When the PTS Season end, did the Tome autospend your points down to a 2000 Tome Point cap? n/a
Was the end of Season pop-up clear? n/a
Any other feedback? Please balance the challenges better. I get far too many group challenges. I don't group. I don't want to group. It is frustrating to see 11 rerolls fall away and still end up with two group challenges that refused to change. (live issue)

Arunei · April 16

Looking at the Seasonal Challenges that are based heavily on the TG questline...I'm not so sure that's a good idea if those are meant to go Live with U50. It's fine to have ONE Challenge be related to the quest, but several? It's overkill and there are plenty of people who don't/won't want to take part in stuff like that.

That aside, I got a quest to kill 1 WB, so I'm glad to see it looks like having to do specific things are now generic? Is there a full list of Weekly Challenges we can look at? Because I don't remember the Fencing thing being part of the current rotation (at least I haven't seen it, which doesn't mean much given limited rerolls) and there was something else I got that looked new as well but idr what it is.

I do hope the Group Event Challenges are also generic and can be done wherever like WBs. I do see that the Harvesting ones are still specific rather than just "Harvest X number of materials", which would have been more ideal. Generic Challenges will ALWAYS be better, because they give people the freedom to do what they like/want and it makes it easier to sync Challenges with your friends when it comes to the group-related stuff.

shadoza · April 16

Arunei wrote: »

Looking at the Seasonal Challenges that are based heavily on the TG questline...I'm not so sure that's a good idea if those are meant to go Live with U50. It's fine to have ONE Challenge be related to the quest, but several? It's overkill and there are plenty of people who don't/won't want to take part in stuff like that.

That aside, I got a quest to kill 1 WB, so I'm glad to see it looks like having to do specific things are now generic? Is there a full list of Weekly Challenges we can look at? Because I don't remember the Fencing thing being part of the current rotation (at least I haven't seen it, which doesn't mean much given limited rerolls) and there was something else I got that looked new as well but idr what it is.

I do hope the Group Event Challenges are also generic and can be done wherever like WBs. I do see that the Harvesting ones are still specific rather than just "Harvest X number of materials", which would have been more ideal. Generic Challenges will ALWAYS be better, because they give people the freedom to do what they like/want and it makes it easier to sync Challenges with your friends when it comes to the group-related stuff.

Generic challenges also helps to prevent resource exhaustion for some popular maps. It is frustrating to have to cross a map a few times to find a resource or show up at a boss just as it falls. Waiting is not playing.

shadoza · April 17

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

This is the official feedback thread for the U50 PTS-specific Tamriel Tome. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:
Were you able to select between the two PTS Tomes? PTS U49 and PTS U50 will be added to all PTS accounts.

Do the new Weekly Challenges function correctly?

Were you able to reroll Weekly Challenges for Gold once you were out of Challenge Reroll currency?

When the PTS Season end, did the Tome autospend your points down to a 2000 Tome Point cap?

Was the end of Season pop-up clear?

Any other feedback?

I have a challenge that tells me to collect nowhere keys. I have no clue what this item is or how to obtain it.

Gh0stDaddy · April 17

Tamriel Tomes are a great idea and addition to the game. However, the arbitrary limit of 2000 tome points that can transfer between seasons needs to be removed.

If you are trying to produce player engagement, then you do for a week or two until everyone has everything they want, and then they just stop playing. Of course, you could continue to promote player engagement by having more and/or unlimited rewards of sorts.

Also, this cap is patently unfair for people that have alternative work/life situations. I have a friend that works 6 months of the year as a fireman and spends the other 6 months gaming in ESO. Due to your current arbitrary rules he's unable to build up tome points when he has free time to spend when he's working 12-14 hour days. This is not ok.

Please remove the arbitrary rules and give players more rewards to continue player engagement beyond the current completion of the tome. They're our points let us spend them how and when we want to.

Thanks for your consideration.

DoofusMax · April 19

Not really the proper place for this since it relates more to Tomes and Update 49, but I made a first EU character on my alt account on the live server in preparation for PTS3 and found my challenges fully populated (probably lost three in there somewhere since it's five per week and capped at 12) along with the full allotment of 12 rerolls. This is all probably intended behavior.

On the topic of challenges, there is no reason for an account with one Level 3 character to be receiving weekly challenges to do Trials, Battlegrounds, Elden Hollow II/IC Prison, and the like. There are some which are kind of borderline, like killing innocents with the Blade of Woe (it's at least accessible immediately after the tutorial), but there are a few which should not be in the mix for new accounts. Perhaps there could be some filter where those higher-end challenges won't be in the pool until some minimum character-level threshold is reached for new accounts?