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[ToT] Weird coincidence

ESO_player123
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I've experienced something very weird at least 3 times now: when matched against a certain player, I get a long delay at the start of the game. I see the game board with the initial score 0:0 and the screen stays like this for an abnormally long period of time (no choice of patrons, no way to see who I'm going to play against). Then, after this strange delay, I see that it's that player and they are choosing their patrons. I'm not going to spin conspiracies here, just asking if someone has experienced something like this.
  • SeaGtGruff
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    I have not seen anything like that, but then I very rarely play matches against other players. It does sound odd, though. Does it ever happen in matches against different players? Does it happen in every match against this one player?
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • ESO_player123
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I have not seen anything like that, but then I very rarely play matches against other players. It does sound odd, though. Does it ever happen in matches against different players? Does it happen in every match against this one player?

    So far only against this player I think. But I have too small of a sample of such weird delays (even though I play only against other players). But the last time it happened I thought to myself "Is it this player again?", and it was.
    Edited by ESO_player123 on 17 November 2025 21:08
  • Personofsecrets
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    Sent you an in game message.
  • ESO_player123
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    Sent you an in game message.

    Answered.
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    And it happened again. Same delay, same player. Interesting thing is that the delay happens if they have the first turn. If I have the first turn against them, there is no delay for me.
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    I spoke with ESO_Player and we both have had a game start issue against the same opponent. Is the possibility of foul play something that the team will investigate?
  • Altera0x
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    I have an add-on that shows me newly researched traits after I log in, using big announcements at the center of the screen. I don't know the exact api it uses, but if I enter ToT right after logging the character in, ToT's UI (patron selection) won't load until all add-on's notifications clear up. After that, ToT still gives me 30 seconds to select if I'm going first, so I suspect for other player that would look like a random delay. I believe that the server is waiting for first player to be “UI-ready”, and some add-ons may interfere with that, creating such delays.
    Edited by Altera0x on 25 November 2025 08:28
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    Altera0x wrote: »
    I have an add-on that shows me newly researched traits after I log in, using big announcements at the center of the screen. I don't know the exact api it uses, but if I enter ToT right after logging the character in, ToT's UI (patron selection) won't load until all add-on's notifications clear up. After that, ToT still gives me 30 seconds to select if I'm going first, so I suspect for other player that would look like a random delay. I believe that the server is waiting for first player to be “UI-ready”, and some add-ons may interfere with that, creating such delays.

    May be, but the weirdness is that it has been happening only with that one particular player.
  • Altera0x
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    May be, but the weirdness is that it has been happening only with that one particular player.

    He might be abusing that, I'm not saying that he isn't. I'm just hypothesizing why could the server allow that.
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    Does he win the match every time? I know in Cyrodiil some of us noticed that when certain other players were around us from opposing factions we all got incredibly bad lag.
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    Does he win the match every time? I know in Cyrodiil some of us noticed that when certain other players were around us from opposing factions we all got incredibly bad lag.

    They are not a bad player (and I'm an average one), so winning or loosing is not an indicator here. I'm just trying to figure out why this is happening, and why only if they go first (if I go first against them then there is no delay for me).
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    @ESO_player123 Do you remember the bug to the Tales of Tribute collection screen that caused the decks to disappear? When the decks were gone from collections, it caused the affected player to not be able to pick a patron. After too much time, the player would then automatically lose the game.

    Does this sound similar?
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    @ESO_player123 Do you remember the bug to the Tales of Tribute collection screen that caused the decks to disappear? When the decks were gone from collections, it caused the affected player to not be able to pick a patron. After too much time, the player would then automatically lose the game.

    Does this sound similar?

    @Personofsecrets I personally experienced that bug only once because once I became aware of it I started checking that the decks were present in the collection before queueing for a game. So, I do not really remember how it looked like. But I think in those cases we were able to see who we were playing against, just were not able to do anything. Here, I do not event see the name of the opponent until this weird delay ends.
    Edited by ESO_player123 on 27 November 2025 06:34
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