Does Ghishzor actually grant wall progress?

ssewallb14_ESO · November 1

If not then I'm not sure why I should kill him more than once. No daily and same rewards as zerging down a camp.

It might be more fun if he just randomly dropped in on a siege camp periodically, Marauder Gothmau style.

Auricle · November 2

I wondered this too. Like why is he spawning in Phase 2? There is no quest or direction to find him, and it feels almost accidental. I thought this was supposed to be a wandering world boss? Just another untethered static WB is not enough to make me care about the phases. Bad comms in-game.

SilverBride · November 2

Ghishzor also does not count for Zone completion. He has a symbol on the map but is not listed as a boss to be completed. The 3 Western Solstice bosses are listed and the 3 Eastern Solstice bosses are listed, but not this boss.

Syldras · November 2

It has no quest, drops nothing of interest, and there's no lore on why it's suddenly there, either. How did it even arrive West of the camp when the Wall is on the East? Did it swim around the island?

Necrotech_Master · November 2

SilverBride wrote: »

Ghishzor also does not count for Zone completion. He has a symbol on the map but is not listed as a boss to be completed. The 3 Western Solstice bosses are listed and the 3 Eastern Solstice bosses are listed, but not this boss.

ghishzor is actually counted as an "eastern solstice boss" in terms of achievements even though hes located in western solstice section (though technically with the full map its more like central solstice)

as far as i can tell, hes nothing more than a very tough WB (having around 24 million hp, and a insta kill wall mechanic)

Gabriel_H · November 2

SilverBride wrote: »

Ghishzor also does not count for Zone completion. He has a symbol on the map but is not listed as a boss to be completed.

He is on mine.

SilverBride · November 2

Gabriel_H wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Ghishzor also does not count for Zone completion. He has a symbol on the map but is not listed as a boss to be completed.

He is on mine.

Where? I don't see his name listed on map completion under Solstice World Bosses.

I see 7 world Boss Symbols on the map but only 6 World Bosses listed.

Syldras · November 2

SilverBride wrote: »

Where? I don't see his name listed on map completion under Solstice World Bosses.

It's actually the boss of Zyv-Elehk Shrine in East Solstice. Not sure why it shows up at a second location in West Solstice during the event.

SilverBride · November 2

Syldras wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Where? I don't see his name listed on map completion under Solstice World Bosses.

It's actually the boss of Zyv-Elehk Shrine in East Solstice. Not sure why it shows up at a second location in West Solstice during the event.

Why would they do that? It's just confusing. Just another reason to be done with this event.

And that makes me wonder, if it shows complete at the site in Western Solice why doesn't it also show complete at the site in Eastern Solstice?

tom6143346 · November 2

I don’t think he granted progress to the wall. He just happens to be there somehow, maybeon holidays

Silufadumar · November 2

Why do you guys even have this boss, while phase leaders don't?

If this boss was linked to a server reaching phase 2, then it should have appeared on the servers that reached that phase first regardless of platform.

I hope the same won't be the case for access to the next area or anything else linked to similar server races.

And if it wasn't linked to the pc servers reaching phase 2 then Zos should look at using better timing in future.

Syldras · November 3

Silufadumar wrote: »

Why do you guys even have this boss, while phase leaders don't?
If this boss was linked to a server reaching phase 2, then it should have appeared on the servers that reached that phase first regardless of platform.
I hope the same won't be the case for access to the next area or anything else linked to similar server races.
And if it wasn't linked to the pc servers reaching phase 2 then Zos should look at using better timing in future.

It appeared with update 48 which was last Monday for pc and will be on November 12 for consoles. It's a bad decision of course, since a fair competition would need the same conditions for everyone, including the same content being available.

NoticeMeArkay · November 3

So he's just there? No quest or anything?

Syldras · November 3

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

So he's just there? No quest or anything?

Yes.

NoticeMeArkay · November 3

Syldras wrote: »

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

So he's just there? No quest or anything?

Yes.

I don't want to lower my expectations for what's left for the rest of the year. But man I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted by now.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · November 3

Could it be that Ghishzor isn't actually the world boss for that spot, his symbol has the blue flames around it like Invaded Dungeon bosses, will he still be there when the event is over or will a different boss with significantly less health replace him?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · November 3

They could of just had him as a wandering boss like they have in the Deadlands, West Weald and Galen.

Lugaldu · November 3

It's also great that on day two there were no other players at Ghishzor, so you have no chance of even taking him down once... But oh well, he doesn't really have any function anyway and you don't get anything out of it, so doesn´t matter.

Grumpycrawler · November 3

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Could it be that Ghishzor isn't actually the world boss for that spot, his symbol has the blue flames around it like Invaded Dungeon bosses, will he still be there when the event is over or will a different boss with significantly less health replace him?

Hmh maybe, I was snooping around on a wiki to find the new wormcult furnishings and saw there was blacksmithing station. It mentioned that one of the leads from this station would drop at the "Zyv-Elehk Ritual Site world boss in Solstice" but I did not spot Ghiszor's name int eh discription which gives off the idea that actually another boss should be there (atleast I hope since I'm not looking forward to try to solo farm him with his insta kills ....)

virtus753 · November 3

Grumpycrawler wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Could it be that Ghishzor isn't actually the world boss for that spot, his symbol has the blue flames around it like Invaded Dungeon bosses, will he still be there when the event is over or will a different boss with significantly less health replace him?

Hmh maybe, I was snooping around on a wiki to find the new wormcult furnishings and saw there was blacksmithing station. It mentioned that one of the leads from this station would drop at the "Zyv-Elehk Ritual Site world boss in Solstice" but I did not spot Ghiszor's name int eh discription which gives off the idea that actually another boss should be there (atleast I hope since I'm not looking forward to try to solo farm him with his insta kills ....)

Ghishzor is the world boss for that site. His name is in lorebooks related to it, and the achievement to kill him should mention the site too. But when he’s there he has half the health of his current event incarnation (just over 10mil instead of just over 20mil). This info is also on UESP.

jle30303 · November 3

Even 10 million is too much health for him to have in his regular World Boss position. He should have comparable HP to the other Solstice World Bosses. By comparison: Gaulm is 6.8 million: the Voskrona Trio are 3x 2.9 million: and Tidewash is barely over 3 million, but makes up for it with the sheer number of adds he keeps spawning.

In his "Writhing Wall Event Guest Appearance" position, where he's beefed up to the strength of a Trial boss, 20 million HP is okay... BUT... there should be some actual REASON to fight him, an actual quest that asks you to beat him at least once. Even if it's a Wall Event-related quest.

Nestor · November 3

Lugaldu wrote: »

It's also great that on day two there were no other players at Ghishzor, so you have no chance of even taking him down once... But oh well, he doesn't really have any function anyway and you don't get anything out of it, so doesn´t matter.

I posted in Zone chat for about 10 minutes to get a crew to show up. I am pretty good at guilt tripping the zone into showing up.

But, this is a boss I only want to do once. That insta kill wall can be blocked, sometimes.

tomofhyrule · November 3

I think he’ll get moved to the other side of the wall when it comes down.

Djennku · November 4

The one-shot wall mech can be avoided by killing the jellies/voroplasms that appear. They drop a shield that protects you from the fire.

NoticeMeArkay · November 5

I fought Ghishzor with a group of 5 people yesterday and to be frank, his mechanics are nothing out of the ordinary left alone too difficult to deal with.

6 people running this fight for the first time blind instinctively realized that the large glowing shield is supposed to protect one from the wall mechanic. Making the connection that this shield appears when you slay the voriplasms.

It's a longer fight due to the high amount of health, but nothing that takes more than 5 minutes with 5 random people.

Shawn_PT · November 5

Killed this dude once when he spawned on phase 1. There were no mechanics because apparently they were bugged, people just had to keep rezzing when they randomly died for no reason.
The loot was not worth the mess. Now he shows as complete on all my characters. No point in doing it again.

Does it help with the wall...? Guess we'll never know. But does it really matter? They've shown us the numbers mean nothing.

katanagirl1 · November 6

He doesn’t on console, lol.

redlink1979 · November 6

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

(...) I'm not sure why I should kill him more than once. (...)

There's no point after the 1st time. You only get an achievement.

Tommy_The_Gun · November 6

While fighting this boss, I think I realised something. This boss made it clear for me what imho is wrong (and could be fixed) with PvE combat.

Attacks that are "one shots" are telegraphed in the same way as regular "no one-shots" attacks.

For instance, this boss has AOE wall on the ground that kills you instantly if you touch it. Now, how many AOEs in PvE are there ? A lot. And they are all telegraphed in the same way. It is just an AOE. Same goes for non - AOE single target attacks. When PvE enemies perform a wind-up attack with a charge time - you know it will be strong attack.... but sometimes, some bosses can kill with 1 hit with such attack and others can't. The only way to know which attack is a one-shot is trial & error.... And this imho should not be done like this.

Extremely powerful attacks that scale with your health & will kill you regardless of how much max HP you have, how much armour you have and regardless of the fact that you are blocking or not - such attacks should have different telegraph / hint.

Djennku · November 6

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

While fighting this boss, I think I realised something. This boss made it clear for me what imho is wrong (and could be fixed) with PvE combat.

Attacks that are "one shots" are telegraphed in the same way as regular "no one-shots" attacks.

For instance, this boss has AOE wall on the ground that kills you instantly if you touch it. Now, how many AOEs in PvE are there ? A lot. And they are all telegraphed in the same way. It is just an AOE. Same goes for non - AOE single target attacks. When PvE enemies perform a wind-up attack with a charge time - you know it will be strong attack.... but sometimes, some bosses can kill with 1 hit with such attack and others can't. The only way to know which attack is a one-shot is trial & error.... And this imho should not be done like this.

Extremely powerful attacks that scale with your health & will kill you regardless of how much max HP you have, how much armour you have and regardless of the fact that you are blocking or not - such attacks should have different telegraph / hint.

You can learn this easily by playing the game which mechanics will one shot and which won't. The game doesn't need to hold your hand on everything. That's what makes it fun.