Lets just remove all abilities from the game.

We can walk around hitting each other with light attacks.

That way no one will have any fun and everything will be so "balanced."

Thejollygreenone wrote: »

Instead of generating a typical sarcastic pvp remark, why not explain to me why you would think magicka/stamina drains would be a bad addition to pvp as seems to be your standpoint? Or you just comment on all attempts to balance pvp like this, I couldn't say.

I mean, you could also just make more comments that don't progress thought on the subject. Whatever floats your boat. But I prefer the route that brings us closer to the ideal rather than settling for less.

He doesn't want balance, he just wants to be able to abuse his broken abilities to win. Bash is getting nerfed in the craglorn patch.

Magica and stamina drain seriously? Just think about what would happen if they would be introduced to the game.

Right people would use them and therefore would totally negate every single other skill wich uses magica or stamina. Actually everyone would asap use nothing else than these drains and this would lead to ...?

Right ranting and calls for nerfes since these drain abilities totally broke the game.

I don't like the idea of magicka and stamina drains simply because of the way the resources are used in the game. It feels kinda trolly and like a new form of CC. Implementing a system like this would require them to also implement some way to stop these drains, or you'd run into the same problem that older MMOs had with chain CC. The meta strategy would be all about draining stamina and/or magicka to leave your opponent helpless.

It seems like an overly complex and development heavy addition to the game. I don't necessarily see the problem it solves or what fun factor it adds.

It also is a new way to take away people's ability to control their characters, react to situations, ect.

My favorite thing about the combat system in this game is no cool downs. Resource management is the name of the game and if you run out its no one's fault but your own.

Also, I do apologize for being flippant and dismissive in my original post. I was a bit amped up from the gagillion nerf this nerf that threads circulating around.

But that's on me and you didn't do anything wrong. So again, sorry. My original comment was uncalled for.

NordJitsu wrote: »

But that's on me and you didn't do anything wrong. So again, sorry. My original comment was uncalled for.

Cheers, no worries man. We all know how things get on these forums ^.^

You bring up some valid points, some similar to those that have been mentioned already some unique.

I guess a large issue presented with the addition of stamina/magicka drains is the substantial effort needed for it to be implemented to combat a few techniques that should probably be just changed in and of themselves to alleviate the problem instead.

With all of this being said, completely looking aside from current popular issues and how they relate to this suggestion, I still have to imagine that there's a way to implement such a system, given enough time, so that it could have some real benefits to the game in general.

Whether that be making it susceptible to interrupts, or making the bonus or damage so minuscule that there would be more harm than good done out of spamming it. If it could be done so perfectly delicately, I think I'd welcome the change.

But as was mentioned, it's a change that is so monumental in nature compared to how the game foundation is laid out, resources would probably be best diverted elsewhere in the development of this game.

All in all, I'd say it was worth a thought ;P