When will we get the remaining sets of the PvP Q&A answered?

Erickson9610 · June 25

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We do still have a Cyrodiil & Imperial City and PvP Combat & Itemization sets in progress.

It's now June and we're still waiting on the remaining questions to be answered. We were waiting on these questions to be answered before the first Vengeance test started, and now we're about to have a second Vengeance test. How far along have the answers to these questions come since the last part of the Q&A?

The_Meathead · June 25

Oh, sweet summer child...

They're never answering those questions. They picked the ones they wanted the first go round and ignored all the ones about Heal/Shield Stacking, Ball Groups, RoA (they don't know what that looks like on screen, anyway) and so forth that might have been stressful to answer. Don't even THINK they're gonna touch Subclassing in PvP any time soon.

Vengeance 2.0 is the A of the Q&A. It might not be exactly what you want (it's not exactly what I want), but it's what they're doing and it's all we're gonna get.

Erickson9610 · June 25

The_Meathead wrote: »

Oh, sweet summer child...

They're never answering those questions. They picked the ones they wanted the first go round and ignored all the ones about Heal/Shield Stacking, Ball Groups, RoA (they don't know what that looks like on screen, anyway) and so forth that might have been stressful to answer. Don't even THINK they're gonna touch Subclassing in PvP any time soon.

Vengeance 2.0 is the A of the Q&A. It might not be exactly what you want (it's not exactly what I want), but it's what they're doing and it's all we're gonna get.

I wholly disagree with this mindset.

React · June 25

Last update was from kevin on April 21st saying the following;

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

We are still working on this. There have been quite a bit of questions to get through while also supporting U46 PTS and general day to day tasks. But this is still being worked on. We had a chat about this last week around working to get the next round of questions fully answered and translated. No ETA at the moment. We would like to complete some more work on it before confirming a date. That way, we can give you more accurate information.

That was 2 months ago now, and I believe we're approaching 6 months since the Q&A question thread was originally posted. It's pretty frustrating that we haven't gotten any further updates on this yet, a 6 month turnaround on a simple Q&A seems absurd. Like the OP suggests, all the most requested/popular questions have yet to be answered.

dcrush · June 25

It’s probably in the same drawer as the U35 Q&A.

Erickson9610 · June 25

dcrush wrote: »

It’s probably in the same drawer as the U35 Q&A.

At least ZOS has reaffirmed us multiple times that the PvP Q&A would be coming, even if it had to be split into multiple parts. That's a significant improvement compared to the communication surrounding the Update 35 Q&A.

The_Meathead · June 25

Erickson9610 wrote: »

The_Meathead wrote: »

Oh, sweet summer child...

They're never answering those questions. They picked the ones they wanted the first go round and ignored all the ones about Heal/Shield Stacking, Ball Groups, RoA (they don't know what that looks like on screen, anyway) and so forth that might have been stressful to answer. Don't even THINK they're gonna touch Subclassing in PvP any time soon.

Vengeance 2.0 is the A of the Q&A. It might not be exactly what you want (it's not exactly what I want), but it's what they're doing and it's all we're gonna get.

I wholly disagree with this mindset.

I genuinely applaud your continued optimism, then. Not being snarky, I really do.

They so completely avoided the heavily-requested questions I mentioned in the first go round that it felt absolutely intentional and I really don't see them suddenly popping up and saying, "Ok, guys! We're ready NOW to talk about Ball Groups, Pull Sets, Cross-Healing, and all the other things we've never been willing to truly address."

Anyone who plays Cyrodiil regularly knows how impactful/detrimental all those things are and even how much Ball Groups effect performance, but after seeing how disconnected the Devs seem from their own game during the Battlegrounds streaming, it doesn't seem like they really do. It seems even less like they're willing to address those issues or give definitive answers.

Vengeance shows they're willing to put in work, however. Lots and lots of it, though all I really wanted was some clean up on current Cyrodiil with scaling back the absurdity of grouping benefits (cross-healing/shielding amounts, Emperor-level buffs, etc) and the trimming of problematic sets (RoA.) Now we have Subclassing just making things even zanier, so... yeah, I truly feel like Vengeance is gonna be their only avenue/effort at balance and that they prefer reinventing the wheel over fixing a flat.

Anyway, I hope you get your Q&A. I really, really hope they finally address all that stuff. Sorry if I seemed like a jerk in my first reply, it just feels like since U35 the decision making has been bad, and the communication has been worse.

sarahthes · June 25

The_Meathead wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

The_Meathead wrote: »

Oh, sweet summer child...

They're never answering those questions. They picked the ones they wanted the first go round and ignored all the ones about Heal/Shield Stacking, Ball Groups, RoA (they don't know what that looks like on screen, anyway) and so forth that might have been stressful to answer. Don't even THINK they're gonna touch Subclassing in PvP any time soon.

Vengeance 2.0 is the A of the Q&A. It might not be exactly what you want (it's not exactly what I want), but it's what they're doing and it's all we're gonna get.

I wholly disagree with this mindset.

I genuinely applaud your continued optimism, then. Not being snarky, I really do.

They so completely avoided the heavily-requested questions I mentioned in the first go round that it felt absolutely intentional and I really don't see them suddenly popping up and saying, "Ok, guys! We're ready NOW to talk about Ball Groups, Pull Sets, Cross-Healing, and all the other things we've never been willing to truly address."

Anyone who plays Cyrodiil regularly knows how impactful/detrimental all those things are and even how much Ball Groups effect performance, but after seeing how disconnected the Devs seem from their own game during the Battlegrounds streaming, it doesn't seem like they really do. It seems even less like they're willing to address those issues or give definitive answers.

Vengeance shows they're willing to put in work, however. Lots and lots of it, though all I really wanted was some clean up on current Cyrodiil with scaling back the absurdity of grouping benefits (cross-healing/shielding amounts, Emperor-level buffs, etc) and the trimming of problematic sets (RoA.) Now we have Subclassing just making things even zanier, so... yeah, I truly feel like Vengeance is gonna be their only avenue/effort at balance and that they prefer reinventing the wheel over fixing a flat.

Anyway, I hope you get your Q&A. I really, really hope they finally address all that stuff. Sorry if I seemed like a jerk in my first reply, it just feels like since U35 the decision making has been bad, and the communication has been worse.

I think it's more likely that the answers to the third part of the Q&A are very influenced by Subclassing, Vengeance, and possibly U47/U48 and keep evolving.

Basically they jumped the gun in saying they could answer them in the timeframe they initially committed to.

IncultaWolf · June 26

Also wondering what happened with this. I was really anticipating the rest of the answers. @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Erickson9610 · July 23

Has there been any update on this lately?