Getting Kicked from PvP - please explain

Zama666
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Ok, I get it you have server issue.
But when I am in Cyrodiil, over and over, at a busy fight, I get kicked out. Waiting 20 minutes - un reasonable.
Is it on my end, NO.
And you have logs, so you can see what happened.
Can you explain what is going on?
And what you plan to do about it?

Yes, I have logged tickets, and nothing makes a difference. in 2025, I find it difficult to image in it is my connection or my computer.

Help!
(please don't ask me to log a ticket)
Please explain the issues you are having, and what is needed to fix it. If it is money, fine. I get it ....say so.

Tankz,

z
  • Zama666
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    I have been kicked 4x over a span of 2 hours. this that reasonable?
  • Zama666
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    I just got kicked again. that took 30 minutes.

    I pay for a sub.

    Seriously....just let the user base know the issues....

    I cannot mitigate my location or my isp....

    HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • blktauna
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    welcome to cyrodil for the last few years. Your voice is added to the cacaphony of the rest of us saying the same thing.
    PCNA
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  • Zama666
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    this is my kick log.
    kicked again after 30 minutes...hmmm.... big battle... coincidence....I think...not?
  • Zama666
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    Ok, I just go in again, got kicked....
    Reboot? what?
  • Zama666
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    I will pray to the server lords...
  • Zama666
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    and I lose all my AP for a 30 minute battle I could not stay in.

    Ok, I will stop...this is the way it is...

    EOT
  • Soraka
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    If you play on wifi setting a static ip helped this a lot for me
  • loosej
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    I disconnected about 5 times yesterday, lost count after a while. Gray Host, PC-EU.

    Connection is wired, I was the only one using the network, and the only other traffic was a 240p youtube stream in the background for audio.

    Riding around I get 65-120ms ping. As soon as I approach a large fight I'll see other players freeze for a couple of seconds before everything starts moving again. Ping will go 999+, and taking a few steps further will always disconnect me. If I hide behind a corner of the keep with no players in sight pings go back to 65-120.

    I started creating support tickets again every time this happens, maybe 2025 will be the year when zos realizes there's a reason the PvP audience is getting a bit grumpy...
  • Kartalin
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    This is a feature of Gray host. Blackreach is better but only really is worthwhile during prime time Friday and Saturday if you want larger more balanced fights.

    That said the level of crashing you’re seeing does seem abnormally high. I tend to get 0-2 crashes in GH in a 2-3 hour period of play (evenings PC/NA). Hammer lag included.

    We used to joke about this but resetting your router can actually help in some cases.
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  • Zama666
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    Maybe I will try Blackreach if it is more stable.
    Thanks @Kartalin
  • Zama666
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    And I get in to Gray Host, wayshrine to a fight kicked.
    Wait, do it again, go to the same fight kicked.

    ZOS, can you at least give me the option to go back to PVE? Or rez me back to a safe area?

  • Soraka
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    PC NA gray host running really terrible past couple of days, worse than "normal" for me as well.
  • Zama666
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    I got kicked 5x in under an hour....Friday night...big fight...
  • Zama666
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    6x same night...1 hour in.
    yes, there is a problem with pvp.
    I know u45 is trying to address it...
  • Lyraen_Skyforge
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    The standard Cyrodiil experience continues.

    Their “solution” is to test a completely stripped-down version of PvP that disregards all the time and effort players have invested into their builds and characters.

    We’re supposed to be excited about accessing PvP without server issues—at the cost of throwing our builds away.
    Edited by Lyraen_Skyforge on 11 January 2025 05:03
  • Zama666
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    7x
  • Zama666
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    RomanRex wrote: »
    The standard Cyrodiil experience continues.

    Their “solution” is to test a completely stripped-down version of PvP that disregards all the time and effort players have invested into their builds and characters.

    We’re supposed to be excited about accessing PvP without server issues—at the cost of throwing our builds away.

    Yeah, I understand, but the good news is, they TRYING. I think it will take a few iterations.

    I am not please with the stripped down, but we do that, and build back up.
    Who know, might make things more exciting - going back to basics?

    Right now, after many of year of kick, kick, kick, i am looking forward to stability...
  • Zama666
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    I give up today...
  • SkaraMinoc
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    Zama666 wrote: »
    I give up today...

    I just killed you at Arrius after you crashed😜
    PC NA
  • Zama666
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    Zama666 wrote: »
    I give up today...

    hahahahaha! I guess that is my karma
  • Necrotech_Master
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    i typically have always had more problems in grey host than blackreach

    disconnect problems in cyro are not atypical though especially with a large battle or 1+ ball groups
    plays PC/NA
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  • darvaria
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    I only get kicked around certain players. And if I get kicked two times in a sinle night it is always around the same player group.

    Not necessarily the largest groups but ALWAYS by same group or even the same player. If you read the discords, they actually give instructions on "how" to do this.
  • Zama666
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    darvaria wrote: »
    I only get kicked around certain players. And if I get kicked two times in a sinle night it is always around the same player group.

    Not necessarily the largest groups but ALWAYS by same group or even the same player. If you read the discords, they actually give instructions on "how" to do this.

    how to get people kicked off? bizarre...
    The times I have been kicked off, seems like it is the same thing - very big conflict.
  • darvaria
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    I don't want to say exactly how this is done because that might be considered promoting it. But it definitely happens.
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    I have posted multiple times about this issue, It is due to the loading of multiple players at once (generally over 40) when also trying to load structures and npcs.

    This is why it only happens at big fights, essentially the traffic is overloaded with trying to load the players. Generally because there is no Cache or 'simplified' load.

    This is why if you take a camp outside of the keep render distance you have to load those players again (hence why many players crash running back to the keep from a camp), similarly if you are arriving at a big fight and run in too fast you start to render all the players and then crash.

    To avoid this there are a couple of settings you can change but the main thing is keep your render distance at least 37 and then very slowly approach the fight. The goal is to slowly load in the players, ideally starting with your own faction and then very slowly approaching the main area of the fight to load as few extra players at a time as possible.

    Once you are inside the keep and have those players loaded then DO NOT LEAVE the render distance, this includes taking camps outside. It can also include circling the keep to a side where fighting isn't happening in some massive last emp keep fights.

    If you do crash, wait 2m then try and log back in but when you are on your character select screen set your view distance to 0. This will then load as few players as possible when loading back into the game. If you are lucky it will cause your character to actually get in, you can then slowly increase your view distance before moving to try and load in the players.
    (ideally someone in game should tell you 'you are offline' before you try and log in or you will be stuck in an endless loop of errors)

    Edited by Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO on 23 January 2025 08:44
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