Please stop the nerfing threads!

Adernath · May 2014

I am sick and tired of nerfing threads. Currently we have threads demanding a change in bolt escape. I request that a moderator can either merge all these threads into one or start locking them. There is no point in having a discussion (on a topic about which has already been said everything) in 4-5 different threads at the same time.

And I am highly against nerfing discussions in any way - even if there are certain abilities which I would consider as strong - I take it that my build has certain weaknesses and certain strengths. The nature of MMOs with their various build possibilities brings this with it. You have strenghts and weaknesses.

Unfortunately there are many people who have a certain picture of their toon in mind how they should compete against other players - and preferably perform superior against each and everyone. And if this picture and the spec isnt working well, they come here to the forums and demand changes in the hope someone from the development team will read it. Often these players are also underleveled and/or unexperienced - but very well in their writing skills. They often never say what current level and class their character is, never post videos about their problem and examples and just want to get the attention of the developers.

If something is not working as intended, fine, lets discuss it and report it. But this constant bullshift against a certain ability is really getting out of hand. What ability will be next if these whiners will get what they want? Sneak attacks? Or the healings?

Please Zenimax dont listen to these people for the sake of diversity of your game!

KoooZ · May 2014

But then how will we suggest they nerf stuff?

Adernath · May 2014

KoooZ wrote: »

But then how will we suggest they nerf stuff?

You just dont do it

Instead of demanding changes of the game, you should ask on the forums about strategies or tactics first. It is really as simple as that.

lao · May 2014

Adernath wrote: »

I am sick and tired of nerfing threads. Currently we have threads demanding a change in bolt escape. I request that a moderator can either merge all these threads into one or start locking them. There is no point in having a discussion (on a topic about which has already been said everything) in 4-5 different threads at the same time.

And I am highly against nerfing discussions in any way - even if there are certain abilities which I would consider as strong - I take it that my build has certain weaknesses and certain strengths. The nature of MMOs with their various build possibilities brings this with it. You have strenghts and weaknesses.

Unfortunately there are many people who have a certain picture of their toon in mind how they should compete against other players - and preferably perform superior against each and everyone. And if this picture and the spec isnt working well, they come here to the forums and demand changes in the hope someone from the development team will read it. Often these players are also underleveled and/or unexperienced - but very well in their writing skills. They often never say what current level and class their character is, never post videos about their problem and examples and just want to get the attention of the developers.

If something is not working as intended, fine, lets discuss it and report it. But this constant bullshift against a certain ability is really getting out of hand. What ability will be next if these whiners will get what they want? Sneak attacks? Or the healings?

Please Zenimax dont listen to these people for the sake of diversity of your game!

let me guess.

ur a bad sorc?

RaZaddha · May 2014

You were getting somewhere, but then you started generalizing about people on the third paragraph and your point crumbled apart.

LadyChaos · May 2014

IDK if it's talons, bash, BE, bats, stuns, mist etc... 95% of them are insults, who can misquote who better, who deserves the right to post, thread bullying and other general pvp forums dbaggery we have all come to love and cherish, is overwhelming the 5% of valid sincere feedback.

I've seen some replies that even though I don't agree, they are posed in well thought out manner that is completely lost because only the ashattery cometary meant to enrage or misdirect rather than foster civil discussion is what get's quoted and carried for 10 pages.

IMO stop trying to convert everyone. Just say your point of view, defend it... if the other guy doesn't agree who cares. All these threads are religious movements to convert more and more people to believe in their point of view rather than pose feedback.

bg22 · May 2014

I play a DK. I want all the nerf threads to stop too.

JosephChip · May 2014

Seconded. Nerf threads are just whine threads. Thankfully ZOS doesn't exclusively listen to players to balance the game.

NakedSnake · May 2014

...So you made a thread asking us to nerf the nerf threads.

RaZaddha · May 2014

Please stop asking to stop the nerf threads. Unlike you we don't think the game is perfect and the nerf threads... will... never... stop...

Adernath · May 2014

@RaZaddha cool pics, but nothing substantial

The point is that people expect balancing when it is really not needed. In PvE every class can reach v10 and you play together, not against each other. In PvP you have a large scale format and a mixture of all classes (just look at the leaderboards). And those of you who played classic PnP know: You never ask for balancing either. Actually the differences in strengths and weaknesses is what is making these games so much fun.

Of course, some thing have to be discussed... but people actually dont ask for strategies. All you see is people asking to nerf these or that and making phrases on the forum often without ever posting a video about their performance. No one should believe these complains without real examples of the entire situation of what is going on. In words you can say things you want that people read and avoid things which you dont like. With a video you can hardly avoid to cut out all things you dont want that people see while make the video convincing.

Nidwin · May 2014

Adernath wrote: »

What ability will be next if these whiners will get what they want? Sneak attacks? Or the healings?

Templars healing/support of course.
Because they're game breaking and are are not what ZOS promised at launch. They promised that every toon will be able to fill in every role but that's not the case because my Vamp Sorc can't give my buddies a 80% Health Stamina regen for 11s, spamable.

kasain · May 2014

No nerf threads unless something is totally broken like vamp ability was, or something to take the bots out of the game. Please no nerf threads until console version comes out. Bu then all present active and passive traits should be fixed as well as all the new ones ESO promised. After that if something needs a nerf go at it.

Just wonder why you want to nerf something even like bolt escape, unless it is morphed it means nothing. But even more to the point look how many people are crying Cyrodil is abandoned and an empty wasteland. If that is the case then there's little reason to nerf any PvP content atm.

TheGrandAlliance · May 2014

@Adernath‌

....says the Soco.

Nox_Aeterna · May 2014

Yey another thread made by a DK or sorc player hehehe.

Honestly mate , the devs will take care the "issues" these two classes got, even without the threads.

Still , always good to see that many see this obvious issue , you would really need to be blind to not notice how poorly balanced this game is atm and not only when it comes to the classes.

Ashlynne · May 2014

Nerf the people who post anti-nerfing threads. You don't own me >.>