Is there a dictionary for k'ajiiti?

Hygiliack · October 31

We get Zerith-var, who half the time speaks on unintelligible(For the non learned) K'ajiiti language, I'd be awesome to get something to translate what he says, so far I only know what Friend means "Tamiit" but that is kind of obvious

fizzylu · October 31

Wait, I thought Tamiit was partner or something like that?

But yeah, it's kind of odd playing a Khajiit and talking with him since he doesn't at all register that you are one (at least he hasn't yet, maybe he will idk).... that's a problem in many areas of this games dialogue with lots of things though.

Soarora · October 31

The Khajiiti tongue is called Ta'agra. You can look at what UESP editors have translated by finding Ta’agra on UESP. There’s also a Ta’agra project which is community-run but seeks to make Ta’agra a full language.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · October 31

Tamiit means partner.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ta'agra

Has pretty much all information we have about Ta'agra and its translation. Some of the words Zerith-var says we have heard before too, but we don't have translations of what they mean. It would be nice if they released more translations.

Hapexamendios · November 1

Dif you check the sales catalogue?

Circuitous · November 5

I also hope for a translation of his Ta'agra lines.

I took it upon myself to catalogue all the Ta'agra he uses, as well as some notes and partial translations. I'll dump it here for reference.

Fif'zah
Tamiit - friend/traveling companion with a soul bond?
Besha ahziss tamiit, ja'vijah. - besha means "forgive"
Rahdiit
Hai
Ahzith rabah, tamiit.
Rithantii- singer/Moon-Singer
Jo'zhet - something remarkable?
Zha'al - stranger?
-z'har - boss/leader?
-morna - darkness "The suffix implies the darkness has her."
-var - "life", apparently, but not sure about as an honorific
Dhiz maziin! - some sort of oath/curse
Kra - another oath/curse
Maaz'koh ska'ell, tamiit.
Hadaliit - adept
Sahida - protege
Besha ahnz'ii, my friends. - besha is "forgive"
***-ji'zho - a ritual of some kind, or maybe a name.
Ba'vedik - supporter
Miir maaszi, radhiit. - maaszi is "necessary"
Ji'zho tsin'radhi! - when using Ultimate
Th'murr
Jo'zhet
Hahl fajh'na! - after ToT match loss
Bebaj-var. - after defeating an enemy
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Ra'ham - a word of caution/pause?
Ka'iir
Var tsin'ra.
Fajh'na
Zhanlaj - rise, as in a place
Ma'[word] - new?
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Bahlee dad'niit!
Sird'tse hatenii, soz rai trajii L'esweyr vabei jezni a tenarr vuskna luvizzna. - a prayer for the fallen Hidden Moon
Fif zhat!
Hiich radhin, tamiit!
Kes kridesi.
Dad'na eksa vija.
Trajii ba'vedik!
Sa'pu val'rahd.
Dur dad'na!
Bibaj tsin'rajiit.
Miir traj'zho!
Ra'ham!
Bahlee dad'niit!
Ba'haliin radha'szay!
Soz fif'rai trajii, sa'purahd.

"Traji mii'ranjir rithantii "Bend with me (?) o singer
a tenarr ka'isa luvizna. as night falls after day.
Traj miir'gendi ka'isii, Take my hand and follow,
atatami tsin'ra ahzirr for we are all the same
eta morna." in the dark."

"Morna rithantii,
Dark singer,
seribani ah'vero masmandi
Shackled by one thousand/countless sorrows
jah'zhet Azurah traji venya
brilliant/mother Azurah compels you
besha, besha, besha.
forgive, forgive, forgive."

@ZOS_GinaBruno Sorry to ping, but is there any chance this could be passed along to someone who could offer translations?

ArchMikem · November 5

Circuitous wrote: »

I also hope for a translation of his Ta'agra lines.

I took it upon myself to catalogue all the Ta'agra he uses, as well as some notes and partial translations. I'll dump it here for reference.

Fif'zah
Tamiit - friend/traveling companion with a soul bond?
Besha ahziss tamiit, ja'vijah. - besha means "forgive"
Rahdiit
Hai
Ahzith rabah, tamiit.
Rithantii- singer/Moon-Singer
Jo'zhet - something remarkable?
Zha'al - stranger?
-z'har - boss/leader?
-morna - darkness "The suffix implies the darkness has her."
-var - "life", apparently, but not sure about as an honorific
Dhiz maziin! - some sort of oath/curse
Kra - another oath/curse
Maaz'koh ska'ell, tamiit.
Hadaliit - adept
Sahida - protege
Besha ahnz'ii, my friends. - besha is "forgive"
***-ji'zho - a ritual of some kind, or maybe a name.
Ba'vedik - supporter
Miir maaszi, radhiit. - maaszi is "necessary"
Ji'zho tsin'radhi! - when using Ultimate
Th'murr
Jo'zhet
Hahl fajh'na! - after ToT match loss
Bebaj-var. - after defeating an enemy
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Ra'ham - a word of caution/pause?
Ka'iir
Var tsin'ra.
Fajh'na
Zhanlaj - rise, as in a place
Ma'[word] - new?
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Bahlee dad'niit!
Sird'tse hatenii, soz rai trajii L'esweyr vabei jezni a tenarr vuskna luvizzna. - a prayer for the fallen Hidden Moon
Fif zhat!
Hiich radhin, tamiit!
Kes kridesi.
Dad'na eksa vija.
Trajii ba'vedik!

"Traji mii'ranjir rithantii "Bend with me (?) o singer
a tenarr ka'isa luvizna. as night falls after day.
Traj miir'gendi ka'isii, Take my hand and follow,
atatami tsin'ra ahzirr for we are all the same
eta morna." in the dark."

"Morna rithantii,
Dark singer,
seribani ah'vero masmandi
Shackled by one thousand/countless sorrows
jah'zhet Azurah traji venya
brilliant/mother Azurah compels you
besha, besha, besha.
forgive, forgive, forgive."

@ZOS_GinaBruno Sorry to ping, but is there any chance this could be passed along to someone who could offer translations?

Whoa whoa WHOA, you're telling me they gave him THAT much dialogue in Ta'agra?

And they didn't do that for Ember?!

I'm incredibly sad right meow.

Syldras · November 5

ArchMikem wrote: »

Whoa whoa WHOA, you're telling me they gave him THAT much dialogue in Ta'agra?
And they didn't do that for Ember?!
I'm incredibly sad right meow.

I mean he's from a different time and might just not be as fluent in whatever the common language is at the time of ESO. I'm quite sure ZOS did it deliberately so he seems more "out of place" in the world (but yes, I too would generally prefer to learn more about the native languages of Tamriel's different cultures).

NotaDaedraWorshipper · November 6

ArchMikem wrote: »

Circuitous wrote: »

I also hope for a translation of his Ta'agra lines.

I took it upon myself to catalogue all the Ta'agra he uses, as well as some notes and partial translations. I'll dump it here for reference.

Fif'zah
Tamiit - friend/traveling companion with a soul bond?
Besha ahziss tamiit, ja'vijah. - besha means "forgive"
Rahdiit
Hai
Ahzith rabah, tamiit.
Rithantii- singer/Moon-Singer
Jo'zhet - something remarkable?
Zha'al - stranger?
-z'har - boss/leader?
-morna - darkness "The suffix implies the darkness has her."
-var - "life", apparently, but not sure about as an honorific
Dhiz maziin! - some sort of oath/curse
Kra - another oath/curse
Maaz'koh ska'ell, tamiit.
Hadaliit - adept
Sahida - protege
Besha ahnz'ii, my friends. - besha is "forgive"
***-ji'zho - a ritual of some kind, or maybe a name.
Ba'vedik - supporter
Miir maaszi, radhiit. - maaszi is "necessary"
Ji'zho tsin'radhi! - when using Ultimate
Th'murr
Jo'zhet
Hahl fajh'na! - after ToT match loss
Bebaj-var. - after defeating an enemy
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Ra'ham - a word of caution/pause?
Ka'iir
Var tsin'ra.
Fajh'na
Zhanlaj - rise, as in a place
Ma'[word] - new?
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Bahlee dad'niit!
Sird'tse hatenii, soz rai trajii L'esweyr vabei jezni a tenarr vuskna luvizzna. - a prayer for the fallen Hidden Moon
Fif zhat!
Hiich radhin, tamiit!
Kes kridesi.
Dad'na eksa vija.
Trajii ba'vedik!

"Traji mii'ranjir rithantii "Bend with me (?) o singer
a tenarr ka'isa luvizna. as night falls after day.
Traj miir'gendi ka'isii, Take my hand and follow,
atatami tsin'ra ahzirr for we are all the same
eta morna." in the dark."

"Morna rithantii,
Dark singer,
seribani ah'vero masmandi
Shackled by one thousand/countless sorrows
jah'zhet Azurah traji venya
brilliant/mother Azurah compels you
besha, besha, besha.
forgive, forgive, forgive."

@ZOS_GinaBruno Sorry to ping, but is there any chance this could be passed along to someone who could offer translations?

Whoa whoa WHOA, you're telling me they gave him THAT much dialogue in Ta'agra?

And they didn't do that for Ember?!

I'm incredibly sad right meow.

Ember doesn't speak Ta'agra at all. She's not born in Elsweyr and is not familiar with khajiit culture or its language. She's an orphan raised on the streets of Skywatch. Meanwhile Zarith-var is Elsweyr born and raised and very much part of khajiit culture. Speaking Cyrodilic might even be somewhat unfamiliar to him.

BXR_Lonestar · November 6

I just personally like it when the Khajit refer to me as 5 claw or shave-skinned.

I also like it when they Argonians refer to me as beeko (short for Beekojel).

karthrag_inak · November 6

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

I just personally like it when the Khajit refer to me as 5 claw or shave-skinned.

What about bald-bottom? Because that is how this one refers to all his tail-deprived friends.

Khajiit wrote his steam review for ESO in his native tongue ta'agra but unfortunately few have noticed or remarked upon it

Here is Khajiit's ESO review.

karthrag_inak · November 6

Not official of course, but thorough and consistent with official sources, to the best of khajiit's knowledge.
https://www.taagra.com/

NotaDaedraWorshipper · November 6

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

I just personally like it when the Khajit refer to me as 5 claw or shave-skinned.

I also like it when they Argonians refer to me as beeko (short for Beekojel).

@BXR_Lonestar Beeko is not short for Beekojel, they are different words. Beeko just means friend, while beek-ojel is like outsider-friend or a non-Jel speaking friend.

zaria · November 7

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Circuitous wrote: »

I also hope for a translation of his Ta'agra lines.

I took it upon myself to catalogue all the Ta'agra he uses, as well as some notes and partial translations. I'll dump it here for reference.

Fif'zah
Tamiit - friend/traveling companion with a soul bond?
Besha ahziss tamiit, ja'vijah. - besha means "forgive"
Rahdiit
Hai
Ahzith rabah, tamiit.
Rithantii- singer/Moon-Singer
Jo'zhet - something remarkable?
Zha'al - stranger?
-z'har - boss/leader?
-morna - darkness "The suffix implies the darkness has her."
-var - "life", apparently, but not sure about as an honorific
Dhiz maziin! - some sort of oath/curse
Kra - another oath/curse
Maaz'koh ska'ell, tamiit.
Hadaliit - adept
Sahida - protege
Besha ahnz'ii, my friends. - besha is "forgive"
***-ji'zho - a ritual of some kind, or maybe a name.
Ba'vedik - supporter
Miir maaszi, radhiit. - maaszi is "necessary"
Ji'zho tsin'radhi! - when using Ultimate
Th'murr
Jo'zhet
Hahl fajh'na! - after ToT match loss
Bebaj-var. - after defeating an enemy
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Ra'ham - a word of caution/pause?
Ka'iir
Var tsin'ra.
Fajh'na
Zhanlaj - rise, as in a place
Ma'[word] - new?
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Bahlee dad'niit!
Sird'tse hatenii, soz rai trajii L'esweyr vabei jezni a tenarr vuskna luvizzna. - a prayer for the fallen Hidden Moon
Fif zhat!
Hiich radhin, tamiit!
Kes kridesi.
Dad'na eksa vija.
Trajii ba'vedik!

"Traji mii'ranjir rithantii "Bend with me (?) o singer
a tenarr ka'isa luvizna. as night falls after day.
Traj miir'gendi ka'isii, Take my hand and follow,
atatami tsin'ra ahzirr for we are all the same
eta morna." in the dark."

"Morna rithantii,
Dark singer,
seribani ah'vero masmandi
Shackled by one thousand/countless sorrows
jah'zhet Azurah traji venya
brilliant/mother Azurah compels you
besha, besha, besha.
forgive, forgive, forgive."

@ZOS_GinaBruno Sorry to ping, but is there any chance this could be passed along to someone who could offer translations?

Whoa whoa WHOA, you're telling me they gave him THAT much dialogue in Ta'agra?

And they didn't do that for Ember?!

I'm incredibly sad right meow.

Ember doesn't speak Ta'agra at all. She's not born in Elsweyr and is not familiar with khajiit culture or its language. She's an orphan raised on the streets of Skywatch. Meanwhile Zarith-var is Elsweyr born and raised and very much part of khajiit culture. Speaking Cyrodilic might even be somewhat unfamiliar to him.

Ember's lack of Khajiit'nes was criticized. Now if she grew up in High Isle where its few khajiit it would make sense, not in Skywatch where khajiit is an significant minority.
Now it could been explained if she grew up an place with few khajiit and family moved to Auridon just before she lost her parents 5-7 years old.

For Zarith-var he did not only grew up in Elsweyr but also long ago before culture was as homogenized as its at ESO times.
And to compensate for Ember I guess.

Circuitous · November 13

I've added several newly-encountered lines to my quote above, and I'll keep updating it as needed.

davidtk · November 13

zaria wrote: »

Ember's lack of Khajiit'nes was criticized.

I never understood why. There are more Khajiits in the game who were raised outside of Elsweyr and speak "normally" and no one has a problem with those IIRC.
Zhasim was raised by Orcs for example. But I don't remember talking to him I was just looking for Khajiits who don't speak in third person or taagra a long time ago.

Syldras · November 13

davidtk wrote: »

I never understood why. There are more Khajiits in the game who were raised outside of Elsweyr and speak "normally" and no one has a problem with those IIRC.

I think some people are not happy that many companions aren't "typical" for their race. Like Bastian, who seems to be more Breton than Imperial, or Ember who doesn't speak like most Khajiit, or Tanlorin, who's been ousted from Altmer society. Some people actually enjoy the typical cultural peculiarities of TES' races and would love to have companions who show these. And yes, this is possible without turning them into a living cliché.

I_killed_Vivec · November 13

I used to have a dictionary, but it appears to have gone missing...

Circuitous · November 22

Maybe @ZOS_Kevin would be a better person to tag to get this forwarded to someone who could translate? Apologies if not.

lardvader · November 22

CordingOnyx · November 22

Hygiliack wrote: »

We get Zerith-var, who half the time speaks on unintelligible(For the non learned) K'ajiiti language, I'd be awesome to get something to translate what he says, so far I only know what Friend means "Tamiit" but that is kind of obvious

there's kind of a thing for this, they've been doing work on this for a good bit now just working through translating the kajiti language. it's called the Ta'agra project

ArchMikem · November 22

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Circuitous wrote: »

I also hope for a translation of his Ta'agra lines.

I took it upon myself to catalogue all the Ta'agra he uses, as well as some notes and partial translations. I'll dump it here for reference.

Fif'zah
Tamiit - friend/traveling companion with a soul bond?
Besha ahziss tamiit, ja'vijah. - besha means "forgive"
Rahdiit
Hai
Ahzith rabah, tamiit.
Rithantii- singer/Moon-Singer
Jo'zhet - something remarkable?
Zha'al - stranger?
-z'har - boss/leader?
-morna - darkness "The suffix implies the darkness has her."
-var - "life", apparently, but not sure about as an honorific
Dhiz maziin! - some sort of oath/curse
Kra - another oath/curse
Maaz'koh ska'ell, tamiit.
Hadaliit - adept
Sahida - protege
Besha ahnz'ii, my friends. - besha is "forgive"
***-ji'zho - a ritual of some kind, or maybe a name.
Ba'vedik - supporter
Miir maaszi, radhiit. - maaszi is "necessary"
Ji'zho tsin'radhi! - when using Ultimate
Th'murr
Jo'zhet
Hahl fajh'na! - after ToT match loss
Bebaj-var. - after defeating an enemy
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Ra'ham - a word of caution/pause?
Ka'iir
Var tsin'ra.
Fajh'na
Zhanlaj - rise, as in a place
Ma'[word] - new?
Ka'is, jekosiit! - when starting a fight
Bahlee dad'niit!
Sird'tse hatenii, soz rai trajii L'esweyr vabei jezni a tenarr vuskna luvizzna. - a prayer for the fallen Hidden Moon
Fif zhat!
Hiich radhin, tamiit!
Kes kridesi.
Dad'na eksa vija.
Trajii ba'vedik!

"Traji mii'ranjir rithantii "Bend with me (?) o singer
a tenarr ka'isa luvizna. as night falls after day.
Traj miir'gendi ka'isii, Take my hand and follow,
atatami tsin'ra ahzirr for we are all the same
eta morna." in the dark."

"Morna rithantii,
Dark singer,
seribani ah'vero masmandi
Shackled by one thousand/countless sorrows
jah'zhet Azurah traji venya
brilliant/mother Azurah compels you
besha, besha, besha.
forgive, forgive, forgive."

@ZOS_GinaBruno Sorry to ping, but is there any chance this could be passed along to someone who could offer translations?

Whoa whoa WHOA, you're telling me they gave him THAT much dialogue in Ta'agra?

And they didn't do that for Ember?!

I'm incredibly sad right meow.

Ember doesn't speak Ta'agra at all. She's not born in Elsweyr and is not familiar with khajiit culture or its language. She's an orphan raised on the streets of Skywatch. Meanwhile Zarith-var is Elsweyr born and raised and very much part of khajiit culture. Speaking Cyrodilic might even be somewhat unfamiliar to him.

I don't even think her backstory mentions why she was an Orphan specifically in Skywatch. How'd she end up in the Summerset Isles? I never did take too well to ZOS putting so many characters of every Race all over the map living their lives in other lands when Tribalism and Prejudices should be pretty rampant.

zaria · November 23

davidtk wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

Ember's lack of Khajiit'nes was criticized.

I never understood why. There are more Khajiits in the game who were raised outside of Elsweyr and speak "normally" and no one has a problem with those IIRC.
Zhasim was raised by Orcs for example. But I don't remember talking to him I was just looking for Khajiits who don't speak in third person or taagra a long time ago.

For Zhasim who was raised by orcs it makes perfect sense. Same if Ember was raised on High Isle.
But Skywatch has an significant Khajiit population. People tend to want to fit in, you have the khajiit enchanting merchant in Abah's landing who is trying to use 3'rd person as expected.
As for Ember she was not an toddler then she ended up on the street so she had an speak pattern.