What is the point of this Wall and Column at Seabloom Villa?

SilverBride
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There is a wall and column on the top patio area of Seabloom Villa that looks very out of place and serves no purpose. I would love to be able to remove it because I feel it would improve the look of this area greatly if it was gone.

I don't know that anything can be done about it now, but it would be great if we could remove more structural pieces, especially when they serve no purpose.

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Edited by ZOS_Kevin on 7 November 2024 10:13
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  • ElderOfTamriel
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    Probably just there to annoy you :)

    Most likely they just tested what would look the best and forgot to remove it as it doesnt seem to even fit the style of the existing railing.
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  • SilverBride
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    I placed a bush over it to try to make it less noticeable, but there are other problems with this house.

    There is a big gap under the outside stairs that we can see the bottom of some structure through that I covered with a large rock.

    I really love this house but hope they look at and fix these things. Although the biggest problem is letting things like this slip through in the first place. There are similar issues with Merrivine Estate.
    Edited by SilverBride on 4 November 2024 15:56
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  • Elvenheart
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    I posted this before, but I wish the fireplaces were movable. And I wish the ladder had been a spiral staircase graphic. But I did figure out a way to make it look a bit more natural by putting a bookcase behind it so it looks like the ladder is for the bookcase.
  • SilverBride
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    Elvenheart wrote: »
    I posted this before, but I wish the fireplaces were movable. And I wish the ladder had been a spiral staircase graphic. But I did figure out a way to make it look a bit more natural by putting a bookcase behind it so it looks like the ladder is for the bookcase.

    I borrowed that idea. :*
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  • SilverBride
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    I ended up using a curved wall and a straight wall and a cluster of flowers to make it blend in more.

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  • Jaimeh
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    I ended up using a curved wall and a straight wall and a cluster of flowers to make it blend in more.

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    The curved wall look nice!
  • ElderOfTamriel
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    I ended up using a curved wall and a straight wall and a cluster of flowers to make it blend in more.

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    Does look good yes but why is your char so small? Looks like she got shrinked somehow.
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    Rare Item Collector by heart
    in-game: @ElderOfTamriel
    Painting Gallery, containing every single painting (Doomchar Plateau): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel',90)
    Clockwork Planetarium (Coldharbour Surreal Estate): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 47)
    Magetower with Biblioteque (Amayalake Lodge): /script JumpToSpecificHouse('@ElderOfTamriel', 43)
  • Elvenheart
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    I ended up using a curved wall and a straight wall and a cluster of flowers to make it blend in more.

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    Does look good yes but why is your char so small? Looks like she got shrinked somehow.

    One of the Fabled Brewmasters escaped the IA and followed @SilverBride home.
  • SilverBride
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    Does look good yes but why is your char so small? Looks like she got shrinked somehow.

    I was zoomed out some and looking down at an angle to try to capture the entire structure better.

    Elvenheart wrote: »
    One of the Fabled Brewmasters escaped the IA and followed @SilverBride home.

    Or maybe it was this. :#
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  • Nerouyn
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    Probably just there to annoy you :)

    You said it in jest but I reckon that's a viable theory.

    This is a super cheap "starter" house meant to tease and tantalise into buying bigger, better and most importantly, massively more expensive.

    Such imperfections potentially serve those ends.

    The same may be true of the various imperfections in free with the expansion Hall of the Lunar Champion.

    Count the steps on each portal dais in the entry room. One is one short.

    One of the windows on the house is in the wrong place - different on in and outside.

    While not technically an error, the asymmetries in the middle area make it a challenge to decorate.

    Also in the not-an-error department, the skanky wooden fence around the house really drags down the tone.

    But I've become adept at making problems like these go away.

    This is raid level (furnishing, not game) design. Every success is like saving over a hundred dollars of real world money.
    Edited by Nerouyn on 7 November 2024 02:22
  • Personofsecrets
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    I dislike that stairs were not used on tge inside. Weird.
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    "In future content we will probably adjust this model somewhat (The BOP model). It's definitely nice to be able to find a cool item that you don't need and trade it to someone who can't wait to get their hands on it." - Wrobel
  • ESO_player123
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    I dislike that stairs were not used on tge inside. Weird.

    I disliked that too, but I covered them with a bookcase so that they are still accessible for a quick teleport to the second floor. And now I'm actually happy that the first and second floors are separate spaces so I can sink items on the second floor and add chandeliers on the first one without them showing on the other floor.
    Edited by ESO_player123 on 8 November 2024 18:09
  • Elvenheart
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    I dislike that stairs were not used on tge inside. Weird.

    I disliked that too, but I covered them with a bookcase so that they are still accessible for a quick teleport to the second floor. And now I'm actually happy that the first and second floors are separate spaces so I can sink items on the second floor and add chandeliers on the first one without them showing on the other floor.

    If something’s too big, it will actually sink from the second floor and show on the first floor ceiling. There is a large space between the two rooms, but they are over each other and things will show through if they are too long.
  • ESO_player123
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    Elvenheart wrote: »
    I dislike that stairs were not used on tge inside. Weird.

    I disliked that too, but I covered them with a bookcase so that they are still accessible for a quick teleport to the second floor. And now I'm actually happy that the first and second floors are separate spaces so I can sink items on the second floor and add chandeliers on the first one without them showing on the other floor.

    If something’s too big, it will actually sink from the second floor and show on the first floor ceiling. There is a large space between the two rooms, but they are over each other and things will show through if they are too long.

    I tried and you are right. Only half of a Kothringi canoe height can be sunk into the floor before it starts showing in the room downstairs. I think it's enough for most projects though, and we would not have that much space between the floors if we had actual stairs inside.
    Edited by ESO_player123 on 8 November 2024 20:46
  • SilverBride
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    I placed a bookcase behind the ladder like @Elvenheart did, and I covered the trapdoor on the top level with flowers. I am still trying to figure out how to hide the trap door on the ceiling on the lower level.

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  • ESO_player123
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    I placed a bookcase behind the ladder like @Elvenheart did, and I covered the trapdoor on the top level with flowers. I am still trying to figure out how to hide the trap door on the ceiling on the lower level.

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    I just replaced the whole ceiling with Solitude floors. I wish they did not have a seam, but I placed the intersection of 4 of them in the middle of the ceiling, so it kind of works.
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    Edited by ESO_player123 on 8 November 2024 22:36
  • SilverBride
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    @ESO_player123

    I used the Solitude floors too for the ceiling on both levels and the floor on the upper level. (The wooden side showing) I used High Isle tile floors for the lower level flooring because I wanted a different look for the main area.

    I placed the solitude floors so the floorboards were going the other direction and hid those edges just inside the walls. The I moved the platforms together just far enough until the edges were no longer showing.

    I liked the ceiling up a bit higher but lowered it down enough to cover the trap door.

    (Edit: I brightened the picture so the ceiling floorboards would show up better.)

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    Edited by SilverBride on 9 November 2024 05:05
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    The column is part of the architect's artistic design and vision. Who is to question Altmer intellect and insight?

  • ESO_player123
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    I used the Solitude floors too for the ceiling on both levels and the floor on the upper level. (The wooden side showing) I used High Isle tile floors for the lower level flooring because I wanted a different look for the main area.

    I placed the solitude floors so the floorboards were going the other direction and hid those edges just inside the walls. The I moved the platforms together just far enough until the edges were no longer showing.

    I liked the ceiling up a bit higher but lowered it down enough to cover the trap door.

    (Edit: I brightened the picture so the ceiling floorboards would show up better.)

    ksvammesop4w.jpg

    Placing them in the opposite direction did not work for me. They are too narrow, and the borders were visible. But I found another type of furnishing to cover the seams.
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  • SilverBride
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    @ESO_player123 That looks really nice!

    So you used 4 platforms for the ceiling? I used 2 but then I had a small gap over the bookcase, so I turned a Colovian column sideways to lay flat and placed it over the gap so it looks like part of the framing for the bookcase.

    I love seeing how others deal with decorating issues like making ceilings fit, etc.. There are so many ways that the same pieces can be used.
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