They should just add more PVP skill lines that require higher Realm Ranks - this would be a good incentive, that would be similar to what DAOC had.

Well, they have the Assault and Support lines already. Realm ranks just took a lot longer to gain and provided a broader, more powerful set of choices. I think that's good for giving people incentive to continually PvP, but it's also kinda bad if the bonuses you get with higher ranks are too powerful.

Realm ranks seemed to work for me because it took enough effort to gear out your character well that you'd likely find high RR players with crap gear, meaning a low RR player with great gear wasn't cannon fodder. Take a different example, like Warhammer Online, where being a high RR also gave you exclusive access to the by far the best gear, and there was no way to semi-balance the disparity between the two sets of players.

I wouldn't be opposed to them making the Assault and Support lines more expansive and harder to level, but I think it would have to be done very carefully. It should also wait until enough players hit the VRs that Cyrodiil campaigns are normally filled. It would be too difficult to gauge what kind of effect such a change would have before most players have even reached VR1.

lao wrote: »

Asava wrote: »

Ya, which killed it because you lost all that "casual" income that investors like to see which caused them to lose developers and content screeched to a halt.

and 14 years after release the game is still going. it also got 4-5 more expansions after TOA. get ur facts right, son.

Listen little boy. I know how the game is. I just unsubscribed to it 2 days ago kiddo. When did you last play it???

Cydone wrote: »

With the amount of grinding in this game already, I wouldn't want to have to grind out "realm ranks" in order to compete in pvp. It's bad enough that you have to do pretty much ALL the other alliances quests already.

Grind makes it sound bad, it really wasn't, you were just PVPing like you do now. but you rewarded for doing it and you always got to keep making your character slightly better. There was a big list of stuff to choose from like HPs, crit, resists, stat increases and so on. You always wanted to hit the next rank so you always had something to aim for. Every night you always had the sense that you had improved or worked towards improving your character.

The opp made it sound like this was something you could achiev right away like how VEt 10 are now. This is not the case. These rank because very hard to achieve. 50% of the players never made it past Rank 5. It took about 2 years for the hard core players to get to the cap of rank 10. Then it was raised to rank 13. It took 7 years for the first player to hit it. He was a Firbolg Druid named JEEP.

I would really like a system like to this to be implemented to ESO and have a feeling it will. The best part and the reason people kept playing their characters for years was because you never hit that "I'm finished wall"

I think you mistaken me for someone else, kewljag. I said it took a couple years to get high rank for the average player, but it was a good thing I thought. u said it perfectly tho that it made you feel like you improved your char every night and that's what kept me going back, the pvp was fun but it was more fun knowing I was getting better the more I did it.