Triggering vigor concept..

Sparxlost · January 2024

This concept for a stamina purge (for pure stam builds) is a buff for stam builds and a nerf for vigor weilding hybrids.

Resolving vigors armor buff is replaces with a purge and the healing gets better and longer
BUT
the skill now costs 5k magicka and 5k stamina (if player runs out of mag then it costs just 6k stam )

The concept of vigor being a stamina skill is a concept of sheer willpower being capable of bringing to bring someone from the brink. a well trained (physically) warrior would be able to call upon this power of sheer will consistently enough to make it a staple among those who dedicate themselves to an active fighting style. (pure stam builds)

Magick has sort of taken priority in ESO, so i thought it would be fun to at least fantasize about what being a non magic meta would be like....

El_Borracho · January 2024

I prefer the resistance buff. Works well in PVE and PVP. Its the rare skill that everyone likes.

If you want to make Cleanse cheaper or give Efficient Purge a heal, I'm on board. But your proposed change to Vigor would make the only effective stamina healing skill more expensive, effectively punishing someone for running a stamina build. All for a purge, which anyone running in a group gets for free from a healer

MashmalloMan · January 2024

Vigor is fine the way it is. Let's avoid changing what's working.

Purge should be handled with a lot of care, as such, a universal skill giving it should have pretty hard drawbacks like how the Support line Purge costs 5k+ magicka, but effects your team.

I'd much rather see self purges handled within classes than a universal skill. There is a pretty big gap between the classes with or without in class purges right now after the dot changes to make them 20-30 seconds.

Quick examples:

(Sorc) Dark Deal morphs = Purge 2 effects on cast.
(NB) Siphoning Attack morphs = Purge up to 4 effects when the skill ends. (+1 effect every 5 seconds).
(DK) Battle Roar passive = Purge 1 effect every 50 ult spent.
(Necro) Expunge morphs = Decent purge, but everything else about the skills feel underwhelming, should add some extra bonuses to them.
(Templar) Ritual = Great the way it is. 2 effects on damage morph or 5 effects on heal morph. Synergy for allies to purge all effects.
(Warden) Betty Netch = Great the way it is. 1 effect on cast and passively every 5 seconds.
(Arcanist).. not sure what would be thematically good for them. Maybe on Tome-Bearer's Inspiration like Warden's Netch, but that's a little too similar? IDK.

Erickson9610 · January 2024

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Vigor is fine the way it is. Let's avoid changing what's working.

Purge should be handled with a lot of care, as such, a universal skill giving it should have pretty hard drawbacks like how the Support line Purge costs 5k+ magicka, but effects your team.

I'd much rather see self purges handled within classes than a universal skill. There is a pretty big gap between the classes with or without in class purges right now after the dot changes to make them 20-30 seconds.

Quick examples:
(Sorc) Dark Deal morphs = Purge 2 effects on cast.

(NB) Siphoning Attack morphs = Purge up to 4 effects when the skill ends. (+1 effect every 5 seconds).

(DK) Battle Roar passive = Purge 1 effect every 50 ult spent.

(Necro) Expunge morphs = Decent purge, but everything else about the skills feel underwhelming, should add some extra bonuses to them.

(Templar) Ritual = Great the way it is. 2 effects on damage morph or 5 effects on heal morph. Synergy for allies to purge all effects.

(Warden) Betty Netch = Great the way it is. 1 effect on cast and passively every 5 seconds.

(Arcanist).. not sure what would be thematically good for them. Maybe on Tome-Bearer's Inspiration like Warden's Netch, but that's a little too similar? IDK.

I'd also like a purge for in Werewolf form if every class is given access to a purge. A purge could probably be tied to Hircine's Bounty and morphs, since it's the only skill in the toolkit with the target of Self.

MashmalloMan · January 2024

Erickson9610 wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Vigor is fine the way it is. Let's avoid changing what's working.

Purge should be handled with a lot of care, as such, a universal skill giving it should have pretty hard drawbacks like how the Support line Purge costs 5k+ magicka, but effects your team.

I'd much rather see self purges handled within classes than a universal skill. There is a pretty big gap between the classes with or without in class purges right now after the dot changes to make them 20-30 seconds.

Quick examples:
(Sorc) Dark Deal morphs = Purge 2 effects on cast.

(NB) Siphoning Attack morphs = Purge up to 4 effects when the skill ends. (+1 effect every 5 seconds).

(DK) Battle Roar passive = Purge 1 effect every 50 ult spent.

(Necro) Expunge morphs = Decent purge, but everything else about the skills feel underwhelming, should add some extra bonuses to them.

(Templar) Ritual = Great the way it is. 2 effects on damage morph or 5 effects on heal morph. Synergy for allies to purge all effects.

(Warden) Betty Netch = Great the way it is. 1 effect on cast and passively every 5 seconds.

(Arcanist).. not sure what would be thematically good for them. Maybe on Tome-Bearer's Inspiration like Warden's Netch, but that's a little too similar? IDK.

I'd also like a purge for in Werewolf form if every class is given access to a purge. A purge could probably be tied to Hircine's Bounty and morphs, since it's the only skill in the toolkit with the target of Self.

Fair enough

Vaqual · January 2024

With the state DoT abilities are in I would be very careful with throwing purges around.