Fix dungeon grouping and the group queue

Jimbru · September 2023

So, I just queued as DPS into a random normal Dread Cellar. The other DPS left immediately. As group leader, I queued us to get another DPS, which we should have gotten pretty much instantly, but never did. We 3-manned it all the way to the second boss and wiped, at which point the tank left too. So the two of us remaining gave up on the run, since the queue to get any replacements would have taken forever, if it worked at all. This is just the latest episode of this problem.

1. The dungeon queue is buggy. If you need a replacement, you'll be lucky to get one before the dungeon is over, if you get one at all.
2. A PARTIAL GROUP ACTIVELY IN A DUNGEON SHOULD HAVE TOP PRIORITY IN THE QUEUE TO BE FILLED, PERIOD.

On a related note, grouping is the second biggest complaint I see from people in other games about why they don't play ESO; the first is combat, and the two go hand in hand. Problems like this need to be fixed because they hurt the game.

ForzaRammer · September 2023

The group finder used to work, before a group of people asked for ready checks.

Now we have people who don’t even code, saying ready check is important, as if writing queues with different object types (roles) is a trivial task.

MidniteOwl1913 · September 2023

I don't know why it takes so long to get a DD either. It really should pop immediately. Strangely, sometimes the support roles tank/healer don't take as long. So yes buggy.

Malprave · September 2023

I hate to be one of those guys that pops,in and says it’s working fine for me, but it is. I queue as a DD and it goes surprisingly quick. I have a route I farm while waiting and I’m almost never able to make the circuit before it pops.

ZOS_Hadeostry · September 2023

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic, as it deals with dungeons.

Thank you for your understanding

ApoAlaia · September 2023

Malprave wrote: »

I hate to be one of those guys that pops,in and says it’s working fine for me, but it is. I queue as a DD and it goes surprisingly quick. I have a route I farm while waiting and I’m almost never able to make the circuit before it pops.

Glad that it works for you but that is not what the OP was referring to.

What the OP was referring to is that for a long time the group finder fails to fill vacant roles once the activity has started, in other words if someone leaves the dungeon instance for whatever reason their spot in all likelihood will not be filled.

This can be both a blessing and a curse depending on the circumstances.

For most players is a curse if they need the replacement to complete the dungeon like OP did.

However is a blessing if the players who are queueing are doing so for pledges or skill points. It is pretty frustrating to see the queue pop only to be landed on the last few percentiles of the final boss because in all likelihood it means that one has to queue again.

So, depending on the PoV this is either a bug or a feature.

Freilauftomate · September 2023

Pretty sure they don't even know how many problems the dungeon finder has. I am looking forward to the trial finder, will be awesome.

Elendir2am · September 2023

I think that there is no surprise, that posts like this are creating in time of undaunted event. This event unfortunately makes experience with group dungeons worst than at any other time.

Freilauftomate · September 2023

Events shine a spotlight on all the problems and bugs. Great opportunity to test and fix stuff for next time. I wonder why this doesn't happen.

polaris86 · September 2023

Piggybacking on this thread to agree that queuing as a group is broken. Two scenarios:

1. Someone leaves mid-dungeon and the role is never filled, no matter what role it is

2. Groups that just need one more dps can't even fill that. I'm currently going 10 min queue, in a group that already has a dps, a healer, and a tank. We just need ONE DPS that should have been IMMEDIATELY filled with all the people queuing for this event.

blktauna · September 2023

I had this the other night. The DD left immediately and the crown asked for a replacement. One didn't show up until the last boss in blackheart haven

Why is the queue for dds so long then? In theory someone should have popped in asap as the dd queue is neverending...

Lozeenge · September 2023

i'm convinced the group finder tries not to prioritize filling in-progress dungeons. i could imagine someone complained about getting put into the middle of a dungeon filling the spot of someone who left due to unfavorable players. oughta ask them how they got ZoS to listen to their requests

Freilauftomate · September 2023

Here is a workaround, posted by one of our fearless community managers:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/636122/dungeon-finder-known-issues

It's rare and beautiful to get official information like that. I wish this would happen more than once or twice a year.

The group finder alone has so many more infuriating problems and bugs, and it feels like nothing has been fixed for years.

(Edited for typo)

boi_anachronism_ · September 2023

Lozeenge wrote: »

i'm convinced the group finder tries not to prioritize filling in-progress dungeons. i could imagine someone complained about getting put into the middle of a dungeon filling the spot of someone who left due to unfavorable players. oughta ask them how they got ZoS to listen to their requests

Idk my buddy ended up in a coral arie the other day with a group that had no buisness being in there on vet. He left i was in que. I ended up in that same dungeon with that same group. I know this bc i was on psn with him at the time.