Dear Vampires - What are your plans post-nerf?

ChairGraveyard · May 2014

Milky wrote: »

Poor vampires have to learn how to play PvP now. Training wheels are off, come out to play!

Lemme guess, bash spammer?

ChairGraveyard · May 2014

Righto then, bash spammer. Got it.

Tankqull · May 2014

ChairGraveyard wrote: »

Also I recently noticed Mist Form is bugged it does not prevent CC from hitting you during Mist Form if enemies use the tab target - also they can break you out of it by bashing.

couldn´t replicate this as i´m unable to tab target someone in mist form (wich should be possible if you ask me) but ccing him works fine if the vamp misses the correct reaplication window - as the mist form is no purge they are then cced in mist form wich can happen due to latancy issues especially when eu players are involved or incompetence on the vamp side.

akornpuff · May 2014

so much for a friendly thread about skill choices :P carry on, entertaining nonetheless ^^;

Milky · May 2014

Mist form does prevent CC. But yes, I can CC you if I counter-play you by catching you between your mist form spamming. The skill doesn't say that it CLEANSES you of CC.

ErilAq · May 2014

Vampirism is not a class. it's a flavor perk, like the guild perks. It was brought into line, and while some nerfs were senseless (looking at you mist form) the ability reduction was a bit too strong. the fact that they haven't fixed the bug that causes the ability reduction to reset to 0 is the only thing that they did poorly in this patch.

In addition, I do feel for the vamps, and I highly doubt pvp will die, I expect more people (like myself) will start to trickle in just to see if the vamp abusers have left. Give the game time, there will always be broken classes in any game, OP classes/specs. it'll take a while to balance them out. (remember WoW when it came out? you can't tell me all the classes were balanced well)

Milky · May 2014

davidhorstub17_ESO wrote: »

Milky wrote: »

Poor vampires have to learn how to play PvP now. Training wheels are off, come out to play!

play where? the US campaigns are completely empty aside from two campaigns of 1 vs 1 vs 3 bar zerg stomps. May 5th, the day eso pvp died. all of the non-vamp pvpers quit weeks ago, and now all the vamp pvpers quit today. this is shaping up to be a bigger failure than swtor and that game only last 6 months, eso wont make it 2.

I guess you've never played in that time frame before. It's always empty at that time.

ChairGraveyard · May 2014

Milky wrote: »

ChairGraveyard wrote: »

Righto then, bash spammer. Got it.

Awww, we were having fun. Don't get all pouty just because your assumptions are wrong.

Okay bash spammer, whatever you say. Don't get all pouty because someone called out your favorite exploit.

tankqullb16_ESO wrote: »

ChairGraveyard wrote: »

Also I recently noticed Mist Form is bugged it does not prevent CC from hitting you during Mist Form if enemies use the tab target - also they can break you out of it by bashing.

couldn´t replicate this as i´m unable to tab target someone in mist form (wich should be possible if you ask me) but ccing him works fine if the vamp misses the correct reaplication window - as the mist form is no purge they are then cced in mist form wich can happen due to latancy issues especially when eu players are involved or incompetence on the vamp side.

I'm aware of that happening, but it's distinctly different - the bug I'm talking about is when you are CCed well after being in the ability, not being CCed then going into Mist Form.

Milky wrote: »

Mist form does prevent CC. But yes, I can CC you if I counter-play you by catching you between your mist form spamming. The skill doesn't say that it CLEANSES you of CC.

If you'd read what I said, that's not what I'm talking about.

ChairGraveyard · May 2014

Milky wrote: »

[snipped garbage post]

Thanks for confirming that you're a bash exploiter. As if it weren't obvious enough before.

Also pretty amusing trying to claim I'm a bat swarm exploiter, since I don't have any VR characters, nor even have bat swarm morphed.

moXrox · May 2014

Lets see first if the new patch is effective or people still can spam Vampire AoE.

Rylana · May 2014

I am keeping mine, Vamp is amazing for an assassin NB build, especially with the invigorating drain. I never crutched on bats, i prefer to use soul strike as my ultimate.

The magicka/stamina regen is good on a balanced vamp build, you just need fire resists and should probably not run at stage 2-4 if youre gonna PvP.

All in all the passives give you plenty, especially that undeath. It has saved my bacon and given me enough stay power to get the kill on many occasions I should have otherwise lost.

alexion891ub17_ESO · May 2014

Spam bats to teach people that this patch did nothing to address the problem.

Chryos · May 2014

I am going to change to the next exploitable build until that too is fixed, once that is fixed I'll do the math and figure out the next exploitable build. When they nerf that I am going to figure out what the next exploitable build is, and then make an exploitable build based off the math of my new exploitable build.

(ok, my real answer, I vampyre for roleplaying reasons, I'm only rank 2)

Milky · May 2014

alexion891ub17_ESO wrote: »

Spam bats to teach people that this patch did nothing to address the problem.

I don't really care if vampires can spam bat swarm, so long as they can't stack 5 of them at a time. My blind + immobilize counter seems to work pretty well

akornpuff · May 2014

idk I'm finding pvp incredibly fun, moreso than when I was steamrolling entire zergs solo. must be the standards

Harakh · May 2014

For stealthing Vampire is still a must have, you can run faster in stealth as without stealth, with the passive.

rawne1980b16_ESO · May 2014

If you honestly think those tiny "nerfs" are going to change anything you are sadly delusional.

The ultimate gain is still there so bat swarm can still be used constantly just not stacking.

Mist form still mitigates a ton of damage it just moves a bit slower.

Zargorius · May 2014

Bashing breaks the mist form? Didn't know that, it's very good news indeed. With the changes and this you're (un)dead meat my dear vamps. I will enjoy drinking your tears and dancing over your rotten corpses!

Larira · May 2014

akornpuff wrote: »

Curious about what everyone else plans on going after the vampire nerf, if you're going to drop it at all.

I will not drop it. I'm a vampire because i'm a vampire.

Greetings

Tankqull · May 2014

Milky wrote: »

alexion891ub17_ESO wrote: »

Spam bats to teach people that this patch did nothing to address the problem.

I don't really care if vampires can spam bat swarm, so long as they can't stack 5 of them at a time. My blind + immobilize counter seems to work pretty well

would you be so kind to explain us noobs how you apply effects to vamps beeing invisible 99.99999% of the time - i cant or atleast dont get any spellfeedback if i might hit him.
the only way that i do get any game feedback is when spamming light attacks wich aint do dmg anyway but are ontop reduced by block, mistform and shields to 0dmg .
yesterday i had again the situation where a keep was completly unraidable because of one solo DK vampire, he was completly invisible nearly all the time from time to time he was visible for a fraction of a second. while beeing invisble he cant be tab targeted to have a hint where he actually is as the bloody bat swarm was not displayed at all so the only option to gues where he was was by the health reduction of the other raiders. and occasional darktalons grasping them.
the only feedback i got when attacking him was when i "accidently" hit him while spamming light attacks wich was a whooping "2 - shielded" so i did the tremendous amount of 2 dmg after block, mist form and armor wich then was neglected by the hp-buffer.

so to make it short
how do you actually attack an invisible target on a reliable base?

Nijjion · May 2014

Sad that the speed was nerfed on mist form... only thing that could compare to sorc mobility and now it's gone.

Guess we can only hope the sorc blink gets nerfed sooner than later.

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Kypho · May 2014

they reacted to slow to the issues

but pve-ers are still here. And many ppl doesnt want pvp until vet levels

rdfarley89 · May 2014

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

rdfarley89 wrote: »

I hope most people cure their vampirism. I understand you get awesome buffs and skills, but there are too many vampires running around towns in the middle of the day. If a vampire really strolled into town the towsnfolk would riot and chase them out of town or kill them. And if they stepped into town in daytime they would burn to ashes, but no in ESO vampires run around in daytime and townsfolk and other random people give them quests to do...makes no sense.

Stop bringing lore into this , cause honestly , clearly most dont know enough about ES lore at all.

In SKYRIM , yes , the ES game before this one. Vampires could already walk in town and do quests without a problem during day time even.

It is not even ES lore it's like the understood rules of vampires. The only vampire I know who walks around in the daytime is Blade...and don't even mention the movie Daywalkers...