Have you ever done a battleground?

Necrotech_Master · July 2023

Braggar wrote: »

i wouldnt farm alliance pts using BGs ever lol, the gains are much better in cyro where i can somewhat consistently get between 50-100k per hour (maybe a bit more depending on if the event is active)

avoiding fights doesnt work all the time in BGs, what if the enemy teams camping both enemy relics just to prolong the game? there is no avoiding the fight there because you cant capture a relic if the enemy has yours

even fights with flags you will cross paths with people, or someone will be paying attention to the map and go after you

i know im not that great at pvp, i dont use anything resembling a meta build, and i know in most 1v1 fights im going to lose, but thats the problem with BGs, when your put in a game, there is no MMR, so you will eventually only get matched up with super sweaty people and ALWAYS lose because you end up fighting way above your skill level

there are also times when it fails to fill your team so your sometimes left with a team less than 4 which makes it almost impossible to win unless your really really good, or the enemy players are really really bad, the small scale environment just shows how OP certain specs are

these problems dont exist in cyrodiil

No way I don´t like Cyrodiil much. It is a ongoing problem. The game lags, or crash lol no thanks! If no Event is on, you don´t play a Campaign. Take over a basic keep, that´s about 6-8k AP´s. And for a basic farm 1.3K AP´s. IF you arrive in time, and your faction is still fighting. If not frustrations ahead. A Event boost that process no doubt. I remember a battleground match during a Event. Our team won, first place.I collected 35k AP´s!! For 15 minutes work.

I agree avoiding fights don´t work always in Battleground, but you can try. Even if they attack you, you can ignore it. Some guys love to drag you into a fight, to keep you busy. The rest of their team try to capture a flag, or grab a relic in the meantime. I once tried to steal a relic. A enemy player, was kneeing right next to it. I didn´t fight, I just grabbed it and ran. You think the guy saw me? Had to laugh a lot.

I never cared about the quality of my armor. Should I? ZOS nerf so much armor, what´s the use? I never cared, if the others are stronger or not. Let the other feel like heroes. With all their bomber builds, invisible potions, and other fancy skills lol. I was just after the AP´s. That was my goal.

I know BG matches are unpredictable. Some groups suck, some are damn fast. I joined a Battleground match with 3 others.Crazy King. 2 of them left after 5 minutes. Lo and behold...............the two of us won the match! I still got the image, with the scoreboard. It shows you can win, even if you are bad in PVP. Ignore the fact, the others are stronger as you. You can score like I did!

good luck maintaining that when you start only running into super sweaty BG people 99% of the time

there is no MMR, purely number of matches played, the more you play, the more likely you get matched against sweaty tryhards

cyrodiil is far far less work, i dont often experience disconnects or crashes that often unless i try porting to a keep that has multiple ball groups running around in it

taking a resource is virtually no work at all, just killing a few guards and waiting on the flag

if im following a group we can take several keeps back to back and make consistent AP, you only get 35k if you win first place, if you get 3rd place its like 7k and 2nd place is like 12k, with the amount of time ive spent in BGs, it sometimes takes 6 matches to get 1 first place win because of the amount of tryhards it keeps placing me against

BGs would be a lot more fun if there were actual separation between competitive and casual modes, and if the queue times were drastically lower (i dont enjoy doing BGs solo, but queue times in a group of 2 or 3 is downright awful)

if it takes you longer than 2 min to get into a match, thats already effectively wasted time you could be gaining AP in cyrodiil capping a resource

ive literally sat in the BG queue for 45 min without getting into a match in a group of 2, how are you expected to gain AP if you cant get a match

this is why i would never farm AP in BGs, you have to account for the queue times, not just the match times, and the nonexistent MMR when factoring your AP gain

Sylosi · July 2023

I play on the odd occasion, but it doesn't hold my interest for a few reasons.

1 - As far as I am aware it has no real MMR system. I vaguely remember watching some stream once and the guy basically said the alleged "MMR" amounts to little more than time played, plus that it was per character, so the MMR seems not fit for purpose.

2 - It's 3 teams, which ruins any chance of BGs actually working as a PvP game mode, as it breaks the most fundamental rule of PvP - risk vs reward.

3 - Proc sets are enabled, could we leave the zero skill carry in Cyrodil / IC.

4 - That some seem to play every mode as deathmatch, which in the sense no modes work, I get, but then deathmatch still doesn't work, because of three teams. Plus I find it rather dull as deathmatch is a low skilled, one dimensional PvP mode (especially in MMORPGs).In most games that even have DM, it's a non-competitive / casual mode that you use to warm up in before playing a real PvP mode.

So what usually happens on the rare occasion that I play a BG in this game is that I am sharply reminded why I so rarely PvP in this game and then go play a proper PvP game.

Brakkish · July 2023

Would of participated in the poll if you had "It's all I do".