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Class has been the best class in both PvE and PvP for like 2 straight years now

No, it was buffed last year and before that it was completely trash for 2 long years. I know it, because dk is my main and I played it through these 2 years nad sometimes it was very frustrating, especially in PvE.

Personally I don't want to have this class stronger than others, because there is not fun in that. I just don't want another hard nerf, so maybe call for buffs for other classes where is needed. Especially that I really don't want PvE nerfs only because of PvP. You know problem in PvP is not with dragonknights but with tank meta. Dk are most tank class so they always will be good in this meta. You can nerf damage, but than you can't play as DD in PvE which is not fair.

Still don't know why DK needed ALL of the buffs it got back in U31/32/33, they went way too far with overbuffing the class back then....

Sure it needed a little bit of help, but it was nowhere near as bad as people claimed it to be before the buffs.

As a 26-28k health light armor DK, I was doing just fine in solo open world and BGs before the buffs, sweats struggled to kill me unless they outnumbered me (at which point everyone should be losing those 5+v1 if all skill levels are even remotely equal, or a 3v1 if the 3 are higher skilled than the 1) and had plenty of damage.
The main issue DK had was that plar was very strong back then and jabs plar was a very strong check to corrosive DK because it dealt 5+ instances of smallish damage over 1 cast of jabs that corrosive barely reduced and had good healing + purge too so its pressure essentially ignored corrosive and its healing could counter anything DK wanted to try.

This is from a sorc main who dabbled in DK before all the buffs because leap is such a fun and satisfying skill to use.

The issue with asking for buffs to the other classes (and I was advocating for buffs to sorcs instead of nerfs to DKs/NBs) is that I'm not sure if they know what the other classes need or how those other classes are played anymore and combined with the fact that they seem to refuse to listen, take on board and work with the points and concerns brought up by the mains of those classes, it seems like nerfing DK and NB is the only way to get balance now unless they do a 180 and actually start to listen, consider and implement what the player base is telling them the other classes need, which based on the past is extremely unlikely to ever happen.

As an example, I created a massive thread about sorcs, their entire list of abilities, with associated pain points and ideas for improving them. Through rigorous discussion, it was narrowed down to 3 points to buff the class. In order of priority they were:
1. reliable 1 bar burst heal
2. small buffs/fixes/reworks to passives
3. access to major prohecy/savagery to better tie in crit surge as a HoT
With an overarching theme of these points being that they are not tied to pets in any way.

Instead of listening to that given feedback, discussion and conclusion about the class and what it needs, reached by multiple sorc mains across mag/stam/hybrid and implementing something that would have been along the lines of what was discussed, they instead gave us slightly larger shields that also scale from health (great for PvE tanks, but no difference for anyone else) and made 1 morph of the execute deal all of its damage in an AoE, neither of which were what people called for or what the class needed and left the class still in its weird spot of run heavy attacks or pets (or both) to compete in PvE and still crutching like crazy on maras balm + streak + masters DW or building for max mag for PvP.

If everyone plays the same class - Perfect Balance.

DK, NB are so for ahead of the other classes it renders the other classes instant potato regardless of the player's skill level.

Every build I've evaluated for my sorc just flat out works better on my DK or NB. Watching streamers' build videos for the other classes, the first repsonse is, "wow that is bad, even with the player's obvious high skill level". The meta build for the trash tier classes is Master DW, Maras Balm....and even that is 30% more effective on a DK or NB.

MetallicMonk wrote: »

Elder dragonknights online. Class has been the best class in both PvE and PvP for like 2 straight years now but the clownshow working on this game probably hardly knows because they don't actually play.

They play as DK its why DK are king.

I’m a little tired of the “buff other classes to dk level” argument when dk has just straight lapped every other class in how good it is. Even the second best class imo, warden, is just nothing compared to it just corrosive armor is WAY over the top when compared to another offensive/defensive ult like northern storm. There should be no skill in the game in which the only counter play is to run for 12 seconds or however long it lasts. Dk is simply too good it desperately needs to be nerfed for the health of the game. Just changing the health cap to something like 10% would allow it to be defensively not as strong while targeting completely naked targets.

Casul wrote: »

I’m leveling a magplar guys, don’t worry I will carry on the flame.

I got to level 50, having a good time but won’t lie that hitting jabs feels tough sometimes.

dks are somewhat manageable at least, better dragonknights online than elder sorcs online.