sPark101 wrote: »

Permission Problem.

If anyone is running into this issue as well feel free to state your vote or try again

N00BxV1 wrote: »

remember, *you can encourage friends to vote* for your option

I voted for my own submission since I don't have any friends that use the forums...

That's totally fair and allowed! I'm sure if this was posted to an external website or tallied in a discord we'd see different results.

I use toothrow all the time, especially for its 5th piece...

Vampire Lord is probably the only set in game that adds more penalties than bonuses. As useless as other candidates might be, at least they don't actively harm their wearers.

A fifth bonus that is worse the better you play is pretty bad. And if you do die the bonus is a paltry 258 damage stat and 10% reduced costs for only 10 seconds, at a time when you have practically no resources to draw from.

danno8 wrote: »

A fifth bonus that is worse the better you play is pretty bad. And if you do die the bonus is a paltry 258 damage stat and 10% reduced costs for only 10 seconds, at a time when you have practically no resources to draw from.

To be fair, it's granted to both you and the ally you revive. It's not "if you die in combat and someone revives you, get a stat increase and reduced cost; if you don't die then you'll never get this bonus." It actually rewards the wearer, in a sense, for not dying (i.e. playing better) and then reviving someone who did die, rewarding both the wearer and the person who did die. Albeit the reward is still pretty abysmal, especially considering your own personal DPS loss and potential risk for stopping to revive someone who arguably played worse and perhaps shouldn't be rewarded for it, no argument there. Compared to some of the others, that set would probably be okay in PvP if your goal was to run around reviving people doing sieges.

lol how can we vote for
- steadfast hero
- radiant bastion
- beekeeper
- sithis's touch
- meridia's blessed armor
- eyes of mara
- adept rider

?

will you make another poll?

and btw I think there should be a podium with 1st place, 2nd and 3rd with like 150k for winner, 70k for 2nd and 30k for 3rd

I use Adapt Rider on all my mules and on my characters in their early stages to have them move faster. Very usefull that set.

I didn't know about this set or probably would of posted it myself. The entire buff is a function of you dying first in hopes that someone will resurrect you.

I love Bee Keepers!
Stacked with Bewitch Sugar Skulls and some shields & healz....I have lived up to 3 seconds longer in PvP!!!!

This poll is hilarious!

Thankz!

Z

mocap wrote: »

Vampire Lord set reduce vampire ultimate cost, so at least it can be used in role play if you want to "spam" Scion form.

While true and a less than optimal but having potential as a backbar build for this reason, you also have the potentiate set that only takes up 1 jewelry piece and a backbar slot for a 15% reduction to ultis. Assuming stage 4 vampirism, which reduces the ult cost by 26% to begin with under the feed passive, and using perfect scion IV, that makes it into a 207-208 ulti cost for Potentiates, and around 194 ult cost for Vampire Lord. Once you use perfect scion, the 5 piece debuffs go away, but that's a 20 second window where you are doing extreme damage on your main bar with increased tankiness and healing for 15% of damage dealt, and all your health regen, ability cost, and flame damage debuffs disappear.

Combine this with +10k stam, hp, and magicka and the ability to see thru walls, and you can dish out and tank some serious damage with the right buffs. Additionally, vampire lord will mean you have to either use up all your jewelry slots or wear light armor, whereas you need only wear 1 piece of jewelry with the potentiate set and use it for prebuffing on your back bar. A front bar set with this sort of setup could include a high damage dealing rotation while the backbar has the perfect scion ult to achieve stage 5 vampirism and some pre-buffs (forward momentum, channeled acceleration, etc).

Since the highest damage dealing ability for vampires is in fact the eviscerate line of abilities and it's more of a blood for damage sort of thing with more damage as you go lower, the passive on vampire lord doesn't help you achieve optimal results- it actually reduces the costs which will result in reduction of DPS. The only thing it may help with are reduced costs for blood mist and blood frenzy, possibly also reduced costs on the the ranged drain spells (exhilarating drain can help you gain more ulti) which has a range of 22m that can be further extended to 29m with the help of propelling shield IV, however I don't really envision many people using this ability like that or needing reduced costs on their vampirism abilities if they are attacking from this range since they can just get it all back with a heavy attack. As for blood mist, desert rose or something that reduces the cost of channeled spells in conjunction with magicka cost reducing glyphs is a more viable option to help with troll tanking/capturing points, as you can run that as a back bar 5 piece set with shield that covers all your jewelry, with arena weapons on your front bar or something with a decent 2 piece bonus, and a full tanky/sustain set in your armor slots without sacrificing a monster helm. Finally, blood frenzy is manageable with a self-heal slotted such as eternal vigour and does not require the 20% reduction on health costs- and using it during perfect scion will have practically no cost so long as you are dishing out insane DPS like you are supposed to in those 20 seconds due to the 15% rebate (which is affected by healing and critical CP btw).

TLDR: Potentiates backbar for the 15% reduction on the ulti cost- people acknowledge there are better options and they need a more compelling reason to run a 5 set item that requires you to be stage 4 to benefit from the 20% reduced vampire ability costs and an even further increase in non-vampire ability cost and increased fire damage when the main source of siege damage in PVP is fire.

This commentary doesn't really focus on PVE, but I'm sure it's a lovely set to go around use in normal/casual content for people trying to learn how to use vampirism, but better options do exist and it's sad to see the state of this item currently as it seems they decided to buff vampire abilities and passives at the cost of nerfing this item, and further multiply the feed passive's debuffs with this item, which is an odd trade-off that sort of relies on you to use perfect scion to get any benefit out of this item (and even still, there's better options).

Since werewolves have a mythic that decreases ulti and ability costs while increasing base stats. It would be nice to see one for vampires as well- at least one that gives passive health regen back so I don't always have to heal when changing zones (due to CP HP) I might even buy a new chapter just to try that out.

P.S. I also acknowledge that Vastarie's Tutelage is a weird set as it rewards you and the dead person when you rez someone. Sets that reward people for dying when you shouldn't die I will say have little intrinsic value, however there is a dual stam and magicka regen to make up for this proc-when-rez set, so someone who focuses in sustain but sees a lot of death may see value in it.

Whatever the 2 worst 5 peice sets are, im going to wear them both and go straight to pvp.

K9002 wrote: »

Vampire Lord is probably the only set in game that adds more penalties than bonuses. As useless as other candidates might be, at least they don't actively harm their wearers.

I voted for Vastarie because at least there's a real use case for Vampire Lord. If you're planning on being a stage 4 vampire only using vampire abilities at all times, the regular ability cost of that set is negated. Meanwhile, Vastarie actively works against the goals of the person who wears it, since it's a set that presumably a healer would "want" to wear. And they would not want their allies to die. In addition, not only does the set only work when things are actively going against the gameplay you likely intend, but when the set does come in handy, what you get out of it is barely worth mentioning. It effectively costs you a 5-piece bonus for the vast majority of the time, but then it gives you hardly anything for that sacrifice. This is presumably so people don't die on purpose for the buff, but that just reinforces why it's a terrible idea.