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STOP PUTTING ME IN DUNGEON THAT IS ALLREADY HALFWAY FINISHED
AngryOldMan
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Please fix dungeon finder so i dont have to join a dungeon where half the bosses for pledge is finished. Also remove that annoying penalty for ditching a dungeon where half the bosses are dead. This is a huge problem especially with events like undaunted. Im doing new characters with unfinished dungeon quest too. This shouldnt even be hard to fix. Make daily random queue join this half finished dungeons and let everyone else play this game without ruining the day with this unnecesarry annoyance.
QOL fix that should be implementat 5 days ago
QOL fix that should be implementat 5 days ago
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perfiction✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind landing in halfway finished dungeons - I get quick last boss HM, then requeue for normal to get even quicker kills on previous bossess and poof, 2 keys in my pocket. It's a time saver
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nah those groups need filling. Instead they should just change all the pledges to award credit at final boss, so that backfilling isn't punished.46 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind joining those if I don't have to kill earlier bosses for the pledge.6 -
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✭✭I love saving a group run so I definitely don't mind, especially if I still get my random xp.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Everest_Lionheart✭✭✭✭✭
✭My personal fav is queue in, run through portal watch last boss die, collect free transmutes and say, thanks for carry!4 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, please don't. I like queueing for a random and only having one boss left to kill.
I get that it's annoying if you are doing the pledge, but the people who are running the dungeon should be able to get replacements for the people they lose so they can finish the dungeon they started.
You can always re-queue and kill the bosses you are missing, since they don't need to die in order for you to complete the pledge.The Moot Councillor3 -
Ramber✭✭✭✭maybe all bosses should be left to look/complete as you pass them so that you get the full dngn completion no matter where you come and and dont kick you from it if the other 3 leave for more like 5 mins to give you time to loot? idk just ideas.1
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✭✭✭✭Nah. You should get full kill credit for the previous bosses though by killing the final.
Until then, you can finish the final on HM and then you can run it a second time on norm and still get the HM credit.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS3 -
Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The problem is that you don't get pleadge completion if you get thrown into the middle of the dungeon.
People who get someone rage quit or dc in the middle of a dungeon need help to finish them.
The solution is to give pleadge completion to the person that is dumped in the middle if everyone else in the group has finished it. I know this creates other problems like people getting kicked to someones buddy can get a pledge but I feel that is so minor compared to the annoyance of having to run a dungeon twice because a group already killed one pleadge boss.0 -
DestroyerPewnack✭✭✭✭✭I don't do pledges. Only daily randoms. I wish I always got into dungeons where the final boss was already at 1 HP. 😂0
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✭✭If im in it for just the random dung exp its a win in my view.@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP1 -
Olen_Mikko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, please put me straight into a last boss fight instead, so i get my chores done fastNB enthusiastic:- Woodhippie stamblade - DW hard-hitter / PvE
- Know-it-all elf Magblade - Healer / PvE & PvP
- Hate-them-all elf Magblade - Destrostaff AoE monster / PvE
- Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE
Go dominion or go home
Nightblade-Hipster. I played Nightblade before it was cool - from 1.5 onwards.1 -
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✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Nah those groups need filling. Instead they should just change all the pledges to award credit at final boss, so that backfilling isn't punished.
This!0 -
Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't you want to be the team hero, lol? Seriously though, it does suck a bit when you've been queued for a while then get tossed into a blue portal of despair. Usually it goes well or a few pointers tossed the teams way helps get'r done. Also, after all these years and countless times I've completed these dungeons sometimes its nice to just go in a slay out the remainder to get your daily random done quickly.0 -
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✭✭✭✭If it's for random dungeon, please don't.
Nothing better than joining with like one or two bosses left. Easy crystals!1 -
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✭✭I was a bit annoyed on Saturday when I got into a Vaults group that had just killed the first pledge boss, but decided to stay with them anyways. For once I was rewarded by getting the worm cult ice staff from the final boss (my gear farming goal, but I still have quite a few weapons missing from my collection) even if I didn't get the pledge.0 -
Gylzyn✭✭✭Being added to a group that is partway through a base dungeon is an issue if you are trying to complete a pledge. Being added to a group that is partway through a base dungeon is a bonus if you are just doing a daily random. Either make the Dungeon Finder more sophisticated, give pledge credit for those bosses that the group have already killed or change the pledges so you only need to kill the last boss for completion. The last option is the preferable one.2 -
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@ZOS_GinaBrunospartaxoxo wrote: »Nah those groups need filling. Instead they should just change all the pledges to award credit at final boss, so that backfilling isn't punished.
You guys already did this for vet DLC pledges. Can't be too hard to adjust those from the base game.I am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
My xenoscience studies range from urban to agrarian, I am the very model of a Scientist Salarian.1 -
kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I generally don't use the group finder for a pledge completion, unless I have part of a group and we just need 1 or 2 players to fill. If you enter the queue as a group of 2 or 3 then you will likely get a fresh dungeon.
If I am entering the group finder as a solo it is to do a random dungeon for the associated rewards, getting a pledge fulfilled is just a lucky bonus.Playing since beta...0 -
DagenHawk✭✭✭✭✭AngryOldMan wrote: »Please fix dungeon finder so i don't have to join a dungeon where half the bosses for pledge is finished. Also remove that annoying penalty for ditching a dungeon where half the bosses are dead. This is a huge problem especially with events like undaunted. I'm doing new characters with unfinished dungeon quest too. This shouldn't even be hard to fix. Make daily random queue join this half finished dungeons and let everyone else play this game without ruining the day with this unnecessary annoyance.
QOL fix that should be implemented 5 days ago
I agree I spoke of the same thing in my recent thread (link available upon request DM me) A metric ton of people know that they aren't going to enter a Delve and make "life long friends" It's not the world we live in.
I group plenty pugs made in town are fun..I don't use the LFD ever (for that is the way to madness) but when we decide to run a few delves it's a fire works show with folks one shoting everything..it's just not fun.0 -
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✭Compromise?
People who have a pledge active, should not be selected for a half-finished version of that particular dungeon, only a new beginning instance.
If you don't have the pledge for that dungeon, you can be dropped in halfway through.1 -
M0ntie✭✭✭✭✭No! Pull me into a partly finished dungeon any time. No complaints that some of the work is already done.
Also if someone drops halfway through, teams need to fill.2 -
EmissaryVII✭✭Or.......
Add a tick box in group finder: Complete Dungeon Only [ ]
Problem solved.1 -
Khami✭✭✭✭AngryOldMan wrote: »Please fix dungeon finder so i dont have to join a dungeon where half the bosses for pledge is finished. Also remove that annoying penalty for ditching a dungeon where half the bosses are dead. This is a huge problem especially with events like undaunted. Im doing new characters with unfinished dungeon quest too. This shouldnt even be hard to fix. Make daily random queue join this half finished dungeons and let everyone else play this game without ruining the day with this unnecesarry annoyance.
QOL fix that should be implementat 5 days ago
I fail to see how it's the huge problem you're pretending to be, especially during the Undaunted event where the event tickets drop off the final boss of the dungeon.
What you want is something that benefits you because you don't want to be queued into a dungeon that has already started.
Stop thinking about yourself for a moment and think about the group who lost someone for whatever reason. So, they shouldn't get their 4th player again because it would be in the middle of the run? What type of silliness is that?
This is for those who mention pledges, not everyone who queues for a dungeon are running a pledge. I know I haven't ran pledges in years and haven't even completed the achievements for them.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Nah those groups need filling. Instead they should just change all the pledges to award credit at final boss, so that backfilling isn't punished.
DLC dungeon pledges work this way. They just never updated the base game pledges.2 -
CypherusSoul ShrivenBeing added to a group that is partway through a base dungeon is an issue if you are trying to complete a pledge. Being added to a group that is partway through a base dungeon is a bonus if you are just doing a daily random. Either make the Dungeon Finder more sophisticated, give pledge credit for those bosses that the group have already killed or change the pledges so you only need to kill the last boss for completion. The last option is the preferable one.
I couldn't agree more, therefore, in order to make the last boss as the only boss for completion, ZOS would have to find a way to make sure that in order to get to the final boss you MUST kill all the previous ones. One option would be to make bosses appear in order, i.e., boss 2 will only appear if boss 1 is killed and so on OR make the layout of the dungeon in a way that you cannot find shortcuts by skipping bosses and going straight to the last one. OR make it so that once the last boss is killed it's a 100% dungeon completion for all party members (that would include quests, pledges, loots and whatnot.)0 -
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✭✭No! Pull me into a partly finished dungeon any time. No complaints that some of the work is already done.
Also if someone drops halfway through, teams need to fill.
^^ This.
Also, I got pulled into one last night where they were obviously stuck on the last boss in Cauldron (and likely abandoned) and I was happy to come in for the quick clear, and help what was probably new/inexperienced players get their clear and skill point.
It the Group Finder behaved like the OP wanted it, then the players that were stuck could have been left in there a long time until they either gave up, or someone (that queued as a tank) finally didn't queue with the whole dungeon option. I personally would rather new players had good dungeon experiences and think it is ok to just go back and do a pledge on another run.Playing since beta...3 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Nah those groups need filling. Instead they should just change all the pledges to award credit at final boss, so that backfilling isn't punished.
DLC dungeon pledges work this way. They just never updated the base game pledges.
Yup. And they are much better for it.0
