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Buff Shields?
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Metemsycosis✭✭✭✭NoAfter a few BGs last night, I thought of one way that would make shields a bit better without overpowering them.
They need to shut down ramping execute damage at low health. When you have 10% health left and you cast a shield but your opponent hits you for a 15K executioner, your 10K shield was worthless and you just die.
Or, maybe shields need to eat the entirety of the final damage attack that breaks them. So if you have a 10K shield, and you take an attack of 2K and then an attack of 10K, your shield breaks, but the remaining damage from the 10K hit doesn't also hit you.
I think this is the biggest issue with shields, they become less useful at low health, where you actually need them to function more reliably.
if only there were a shield that gets stronger the lower health you are.Terethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
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✭✭✭✭✭Metemsycosis wrote: »After a few BGs last night, I thought of one way that would make shields a bit better without overpowering them.
They need to shut down ramping execute damage at low health. When you have 10% health left and you cast a shield but your opponent hits you for a 15K executioner, your 10K shield was worthless and you just die.
Or, maybe shields need to eat the entirety of the final damage attack that breaks them. So if you have a 10K shield, and you take an attack of 2K and then an attack of 10K, your shield breaks, but the remaining damage from the 10K hit doesn't also hit you.
I think this is the biggest issue with shields, they become less useful at low health, where you actually need them to function more reliably.
if only there were a shield that gets stronger the lower health you are.
You mean the sheild that has more of a chance of landing on an ally than yourself? Yeah, some great RNG defense. And even if it hits you, it is still 1/2 the size of the other shields that do nothing to save you at low health against executes already.Edited by jaws343 on 12 July 2021 13:282 -
taugrim✭✭✭✭✭Noangelofdeath333 wrote: »Put a cap on it if you like. Maybe 20k Shields on a max mag build?
20k shield is quite possibly the worst balance suggestion I've ever read on this forum.
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✭Noangelofdeath333 wrote: »Put a cap on it if you like. Maybe 20k Shields on a max mag build?
20k shield is quite possibly the worst balance suggestion I've ever read on this forum.
Congratulations.
An extra 20k health bar that can be refreshed constantly and can't be critter? Why what could go wrong?I drink and I stream things.0 -
katorga✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesI just want to add, with the 20% freebie mitigation coming into Battle Spirit next update, this is definite no to buffing shields.
Thank you.
That is a buff for shields. Just saying.
You can't stack shields in a single GCD, but you can do your damage in a single GCD. So yeah, less than optimal. Juggling 2-3 short duration shields is a handicap in my opinion.0 -
PhoenixGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesMrMazurski wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Shields are a joke right now. Stack as much mag as you want and shield stack but I will burst you down in a single combo
The only class that can easily stack a shield is sorc. Cry that sorc is too weak? There is something wrong with me here. Still shields give a big advantage and I often meet sorcs that can hit above 10k even 20k shield. Give me an example of a class that's *** to pull something like that.PhoenixGrey wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Shields are a joke right now. Stack as much mag as you want and shield stack but I will burst you down in a single combo
No, you won't.
Have you played mag sorc recently? In no cp I could burst you through your shields with ele weapon + frag + fury + curse + meteor hitting you at the same time.
Of course any stamina main will face tank it like a champ but mag sorcs barely run 25k health and run base resists so they are the easiest class to take down
If they were such an easy dying class, then 50% of the pvp population would not be Sorcs. So what are you talking about here, man
Give an example a combo (sorc vs sorc) that most players make dead, but okay okay okay. Losing your shield is the biggest problem
I have not died to mag sorcs in an 1v1 or xv1 for a really long time.
Mag sorc has been average for quite a few years now. It will need a *** ton of buffs to even compete with the worst stam spec.
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angelofdeath333✭✭✭TheEndBringer wrote: »angelofdeath333 wrote: »Put a cap on it if you like. Maybe 20k Shields on a max mag build?
20k shield is quite possibly the worst balance suggestion I've ever read on this forum.
Congratulations.
An extra 20k health bar that can be refreshed constantly and can't be critter? Why what could go wrong?
You can crit Shields though.....1 -
angelofdeath333✭✭✭angelofdeath333 wrote: »Put a cap on it if you like. Maybe 20k Shields on a max mag build?
20k shield is quite possibly the worst balance suggestion I've ever read on this forum.
Congratulations.
Is it really? Shields are affected by your resist. How Hard is it to oneshot someone with less than 20k resist and 20k health? Because its damn near impossible to stack much more than 20k resist and Still reach a high amount of max magicka for Huge Shields. They changed the way Shields work a few years Ago. Have everyone forgotten about that? And you should also take into consideration that light armor is squishy. Its not that Hard for a stamspec to burst down 20k health.Edited by angelofdeath333 on 14 July 2021 11:140 -
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✭YesBuff the health based shields then. DK and temlar shields and that undaunted shield.Welkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
katorga✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesPhoenixGrey wrote: »MrMazurski wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Shields are a joke right now. Stack as much mag as you want and shield stack but I will burst you down in a single combo
The only class that can easily stack a shield is sorc. Cry that sorc is too weak? There is something wrong with me here. Still shields give a big advantage and I often meet sorcs that can hit above 10k even 20k shield. Give me an example of a class that's *** to pull something like that.PhoenixGrey wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Shields are a joke right now. Stack as much mag as you want and shield stack but I will burst you down in a single combo
No, you won't.
Have you played mag sorc recently? In no cp I could burst you through your shields with ele weapon + frag + fury + curse + meteor hitting you at the same time.
Of course any stamina main will face tank it like a champ but mag sorcs barely run 25k health and run base resists so they are the easiest class to take down
If they were such an easy dying class, then 50% of the pvp population would not be Sorcs. So what are you talking about here, man
Give an example a combo (sorc vs sorc) that most players make dead, but okay okay okay. Losing your shield is the biggest problem
I have not died to mag sorcs in an 1v1 or xv1 for a really long time.
Mag sorc has been average for quite a few years now. It will need a *** ton of buffs to even compete with the worst stam spec.
That's pretty accurate. It is much more effective to swap over to stamsorc right now, and will be even more so next patch.
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PhoenixGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesPhoenixGrey wrote: »MrMazurski wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Shields are a joke right now. Stack as much mag as you want and shield stack but I will burst you down in a single combo
The only class that can easily stack a shield is sorc. Cry that sorc is too weak? There is something wrong with me here. Still shields give a big advantage and I often meet sorcs that can hit above 10k even 20k shield. Give me an example of a class that's *** to pull something like that.PhoenixGrey wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »Shields are a joke right now. Stack as much mag as you want and shield stack but I will burst you down in a single combo
No, you won't.
Have you played mag sorc recently? In no cp I could burst you through your shields with ele weapon + frag + fury + curse + meteor hitting you at the same time.
Of course any stamina main will face tank it like a champ but mag sorcs barely run 25k health and run base resists so they are the easiest class to take down
If they were such an easy dying class, then 50% of the pvp population would not be Sorcs. So what are you talking about here, man
Give an example a combo (sorc vs sorc) that most players make dead, but okay okay okay. Losing your shield is the biggest problem
I have not died to mag sorcs in an 1v1 or xv1 for a really long time.
Mag sorc has been average for quite a few years now. It will need a *** ton of buffs to even compete with the worst stam spec.
That's pretty accurate. It is much more effective to swap over to stamsorc right now, and will be even more so next patch.
I would rather switch over to stamblade. Stamina nightblade is already the best PVP class in the game atm and is getting even more buffs next patchEdited by PhoenixGrey on 15 July 2021 17:500