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Break free program or bug?

Sleevez340
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I'd like to ask, in hopes if there's something someone will send me an in-game msg. @Sleevez340 Pc, NA.

I was in cyrodiil this evening. In a keep that was no longer in my factions possession. There were 3 enemy on the ramparts that were looking out, about to jump I imagine. I opened with a flame clench to start a little game of "lol" the first was hit, thrown off. Broke free in the air, paused in the air and dodge rolled just off the wall. Flame clenched the second. Same thing thing, exact same time to break free, paused and dodge rolled in the air. (This all happened so fast) I hit the third with clench and much to my surprise. Same thing. Instant airborne breakfree and dodge roll in the air.

Now normally i would say lag and all that, but honestly cyrodiil wasn't that bad tonight. At least while I was there. So I'm curious if anyone else has seen anything like this I'm so jaded with some high end pvp players calling everyone a cheater that now im starting to wonder wtf is actually going on in high end pvp.
Edited by Sleevez340 on 2 April 2021 05:33
Kaiser Dragon ~ VR14 Bosmer Templar
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  • WrathOfInnos
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    It’s probably the new slippery CP. Automatic break free, instant and with no cost.
  • blktauna
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    However I'm seeing similar in the no-cp campaign.
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  • Soul_Demon
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    Sleevez340 wrote: »
    I'd like to ask, in hopes if there's something someone will send me an in-game msg. @Sleevez340 Pc, NA.

    I was in cyrodiil this evening. In a keep that was no longer in my factions possession. There were 3 enemy on the ramparts that were looking out, about to jump I imagine. I opened with a flame clench to start a little game of "lol" the first was hit, thrown off. Broke free in the air, paused in the air and dodge rolled just off the wall. Flame clenched the second. Same thing thing, exact same time to break free, paused and dodge rolled in the air. (This all happened so fast) I hit the third with clench and much to my surprise. Same thing. Instant airborne breakfree and dodge roll in the air.

    Now normally i would say lag and all that, but honestly cyrodiil wasn't that bad tonight. At least while I was there. So I'm curious if anyone else has seen anything like this I'm so jaded with some high end pvp players calling everyone a cheater that now im starting to wonder wtf is actually going on in high end pvp.

    Seen similar stuff for a very long time. Oddest break frees and dodge rolls one could imagine.....for instance two very large groups of say 20 vs 20 very spread out- look around and randomly charge to a player in range with back to me, yet he dodge-rolls so charge doesn't hit- distance was not sufficient to have him warned of the incoming charge. This is the one where you start to think possibly he was just good at guessing and situational awareness, but with max effort put into trying to make is out of logical sequence or as random as possible seems to see there are still some players who dodge-roll from things before they are ever hit by them, regardless of distance or predictability of the skill you choose.

    For quite a large number of times over the years really have never found a solution to this I did not remove the possibility of happening and then NOT see it happen out in cyro. Not sure how they do it really- and genuinely tried to make it impossible to predict or effect anything prior to it landing.....and yet the dodge roll out of it before it lands persists to this day.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    It’s probably the new slippery CP. Automatic break free, instant and with no cost.

    I love this ability.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Soul_Demon wrote: »
    Sleevez340 wrote: »
    I'd like to ask, in hopes if there's something someone will send me an in-game msg. @Sleevez340 Pc, NA.

    I was in cyrodiil this evening. In a keep that was no longer in my factions possession. There were 3 enemy on the ramparts that were looking out, about to jump I imagine. I opened with a flame clench to start a little game of "lol" the first was hit, thrown off. Broke free in the air, paused in the air and dodge rolled just off the wall. Flame clenched the second. Same thing thing, exact same time to break free, paused and dodge rolled in the air. (This all happened so fast) I hit the third with clench and much to my surprise. Same thing. Instant airborne breakfree and dodge roll in the air.

    Now normally i would say lag and all that, but honestly cyrodiil wasn't that bad tonight. At least while I was there. So I'm curious if anyone else has seen anything like this I'm so jaded with some high end pvp players calling everyone a cheater that now im starting to wonder wtf is actually going on in high end pvp.

    Seen similar stuff for a very long time. Oddest break frees and dodge rolls one could imagine.....for instance two very large groups of say 20 vs 20 very spread out- look around and randomly charge to a player in range with back to me, yet he dodge-rolls so charge doesn't hit- distance was not sufficient to have him warned of the incoming charge. This is the one where you start to think possibly he was just good at guessing and situational awareness, but with max effort put into trying to make is out of logical sequence or as random as possible seems to see there are still some players who dodge-roll from things before they are ever hit by them, regardless of distance or predictability of the skill you choose.

    For quite a large number of times over the years really have never found a solution to this I did not remove the possibility of happening and then NOT see it happen out in cyro. Not sure how they do it really- and genuinely tried to make it impossible to predict or effect anything prior to it landing.....and yet the dodge roll out of it before it lands persists to this day.

    Just throwing it out there but as a magplar main I’m certain that from the other side it probably looks like I’m cheating from time to time.

    The biggest culprit isn’t that I can spam heals and shields, but rather that once every 45 seconds I mix in an immovable potion that also gives me health back. From the other person’s perspective it probably looks like I got a completely free health buff that is now causing their CC to not work.

    I mean, that’s kind of what did happen, but I’m sure it looks mighty questionable from the other side. Add in “slippery” and the CP passive that allows cheap dodge rolls while you have a shield up and I’m certain an average player will be quite confused to the point where they may think I’m being shady.

    There’s a ton of off meta weird stuff you can do now.
    Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on 5 April 2021 20:46
  • Theignson
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    It’s probably the new slippery CP. Automatic break free, instant and with no cost.

    I love this ability.

    How do you know if this ability or the free dodge roll ability have gone off. Is there a visual or sound clue?
    3 GOs, a Warlord, and bunches of prefects etc-- all classes...I've wasted a lot of time in PVP
  • Waffennacht
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    Theignson wrote: »
    It’s probably the new slippery CP. Automatic break free, instant and with no cost.

    I love this ability.

    How do you know if this ability or the free dodge roll ability have gone off. Is there a visual or sound clue?

    I havent noticed anything that would make it appear different
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  • Soul_Demon
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    Soul_Demon wrote: »
    Sleevez340 wrote: »
    I'd like to ask, in hopes if there's something someone will send me an in-game msg. @Sleevez340 Pc, NA.

    I was in cyrodiil this evening. In a keep that was no longer in my factions possession. There were 3 enemy on the ramparts that were looking out, about to jump I imagine. I opened with a flame clench to start a little game of "lol" the first was hit, thrown off. Broke free in the air, paused in the air and dodge rolled just off the wall. Flame clenched the second. Same thing thing, exact same time to break free, paused and dodge rolled in the air. (This all happened so fast) I hit the third with clench and much to my surprise. Same thing. Instant airborne breakfree and dodge roll in the air.

    Now normally i would say lag and all that, but honestly cyrodiil wasn't that bad tonight. At least while I was there. So I'm curious if anyone else has seen anything like this I'm so jaded with some high end pvp players calling everyone a cheater that now im starting to wonder wtf is actually going on in high end pvp.

    Seen similar stuff for a very long time. Oddest break frees and dodge rolls one could imagine.....for instance two very large groups of say 20 vs 20 very spread out- look around and randomly charge to a player in range with back to me, yet he dodge-rolls so charge doesn't hit- distance was not sufficient to have him warned of the incoming charge. This is the one where you start to think possibly he was just good at guessing and situational awareness, but with max effort put into trying to make is out of logical sequence or as random as possible seems to see there are still some players who dodge-roll from things before they are ever hit by them, regardless of distance or predictability of the skill you choose.

    For quite a large number of times over the years really have never found a solution to this I did not remove the possibility of happening and then NOT see it happen out in cyro. Not sure how they do it really- and genuinely tried to make it impossible to predict or effect anything prior to it landing.....and yet the dodge roll out of it before it lands persists to this day.

    Just throwing it out there but as a magplar main I’m certain that from the other side it probably looks like I’m cheating from time to time.

    The biggest culprit isn’t that I can spam heals and shields, but rather that once every 45 seconds I mix in an immovable potion that also gives me health back. From the other person’s perspective it probably looks like I got a completely free health buff that is now causing their CC to not work.

    I mean, that’s kind of what did happen, but I’m sure it looks mighty questionable from the other side. Add in “slippery” and the CP passive that allows cheap dodge rolls while you have a shield up and I’m certain an average player will be quite confused to the point where they may think I’m being shady.

    There’s a ton of off meta weird stuff you can do now.

    Nah---I appreciate the feedback but this really is full on break free's or dodge rolls that are physically being carried out, not simply immovability pots or immunity to cc's. Matter of fact its a running joke with quite a few of us 'oh look, auto dodge is up' kind of thing. Not quite satisfied there is a reasonable explanation given the effort many of us have put in to ensure its not predictable---yet they still do what for all intents appears to be auto dodge to a casual observer. The players I speak of seem to do this with a matter of routine that just stands out above any logical explanations to the point it appears automated.
  • Sleevez340
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    I cant seem to quote on my phone. But yes, it's quite robotic speed and in no cp. Also fighting ppl that are dodging literally everything I throw at them even while cc'd. Which can't be a set in cyrodiil. So im not sure what is happening here. But running into so many players that seem to be this insanely skilled to the point where they can run so much dmg and sustain because they don't need to worry about taking dmg.... its not even fun anymore.
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  • Dunning_Kruger
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    It’s lag; I duel people while in discord with them and I’ll dodge something and they say “did you dodge?” And I did; 1 second before. A hard 1 second too since I’m already re placing my rune or something random when it happens. Just the performance we have always had.

    I quoted the wrong person.
    Edited by Dunning_Kruger on 10 April 2021 03:14
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  • Bullseyebudx
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    Soul_Demon wrote: »
    Sleevez340 wrote: »
    I'd like to ask, in hopes if there's something someone will send me an in-game msg. @Sleevez340 Pc, NA.

    I was in cyrodiil this evening. In a keep that was no longer in my factions possession. There were 3 enemy on the ramparts that were looking out, about to jump I imagine. I opened with a flame clench to start a little game of "lol" the first was hit, thrown off. Broke free in the air, paused in the air and dodge rolled just off the wall. Flame clenched the second. Same thing thing, exact same time to break free, paused and dodge rolled in the air. (This all happened so fast) I hit the third with clench and much to my surprise. Same thing. Instant airborne breakfree and dodge roll in the air.

    Now normally i would say lag and all that, but honestly cyrodiil wasn't that bad tonight. At least while I was there. So I'm curious if anyone else has seen anything like this I'm so jaded with some high end pvp players calling everyone a cheater that now im starting to wonder wtf is actually going on in high end pvp.

    Seen similar stuff for a very long time. Oddest break frees and dodge rolls one could imagine.....for instance two very large groups of say 20 vs 20 very spread out- look around and randomly charge to a player in range with back to me, yet he dodge-rolls so charge doesn't hit- distance was not sufficient to have him warned of the incoming charge. This is the one where you start to think possibly he was just good at guessing and situational awareness, but with max effort put into trying to make is out of logical sequence or as random as possible seems to see there are still some players who dodge-roll from things before they are ever hit by them, regardless of distance or predictability of the skill you choose.

    For quite a large number of times over the years really have never found a solution to this I did not remove the possibility of happening and then NOT see it happen out in cyro. Not sure how they do it really- and genuinely tried to make it impossible to predict or effect anything prior to it landing.....and yet the dodge roll out of it before it lands persists to this day.

    I have witnessed this "Bizarre" phenomena even in other games, magical reflexes that are....ALMOST on par with... something like... A COMPUTER for example, JUST for example. Hard to imagine- I know, that a computer could receive game inputs faster than a human being but...go figure; in fact it's true!
    I have issues with people "magically" ducking sniper bullets in CoD with Cold blood on, TOO CONSISTENTLY, like literally frame perfect ducking "crouching" with no shots being fired before hand ghost on literally no justification to duck at all; other than to dodge a lethal headshot.
    I know for a fact that people cheat in this game too I can guarantee it.
    It's one thing to cheat in a game like CoD, lets be honest that game is a 15 year old raging dumpster fire that no one gives a crap about integrity wise; but to cheat in a game like ESO you're a literal piece of trash to be honest. Like you're so low on the rung of trash it's hard to imagine you're even worth being a human being and that's the truth.
    Edited by Bullseyebudx on 10 April 2021 05:01
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