I couldn't agree more. The experience earned in PVP is abysmal, and most definitely isn't enticing.

If i had to guess, i'd say xp gains in PvP are tuned to huge keeps sieges where people are dying like flies en masse. If you had decent xp for a single kill, you would gain several levels in such a massive fight.

And honestly, i do not mind slow xp gains, i am in no hurry to get to level 50. I started playing on day 1 of 5-day early access and my highest character is level 8

Sharee wrote: »

If i had to guess, i'd say xp gains in PvP are tuned to huge keeps sieges where people are dying like flies en masse. If you had decent xp for a single kill, you would gain several levels in such a massive fight.

And honestly, i do not mind slow xp gains, i am in no hurry to get to level 50. I started playing on day 1 of 5-day early access and my highest character is level 8

I agree with you. I am also low level and started on day 1. But I feel stucked and need to leave pvp to start leveling. it is different from leveling slow.

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

If I had to guess I would say that in part Sharee is right and also because the Devs have stated that PvP is also part of the End Game Content. I would not think any activity geared toward players at the level cap would give much XP but instead focus on material rewards. Since PvP rewards give lots of items (all of which are level appropriate) I would say it's a far trade.

Makes sense. The loots are very good. I just think they should increase the exp a little. Does not need to be like pve. But makes sense what you say.

Edit:The loot sucks now that I am more experienced on the game I can tell. Random mobs can drop much better stuff than the rewards. This post is from 4th april...
thank you, @beravinprb19_ESO

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

Since PvP rewards give lots of items (all of which are level appropriate) I would say it's a far trade.

Not to sound rude, but is this a joke? The current rewards are one of the most complained about topics right now, and for good reason. The best reward you get is a few green items in the mail. The PvP gear you can purchase, which cost an arm and a leg, are mediocre in comparison to the stuff I can already craft for myself. No, for the majority of players, these rewards only serve to be decontructed or sold to a vendor for a pittance of gold.

Firmament wrote: »

beravinprb19_ESO wrote: »

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

Since PvP rewards give lots of items (all of which are level appropriate) I would say it's a far trade.

Not to sound rude, but is this a joke? The current rewards are one of the most complained about topics right now, and for good reason. The best reward you get is a few green items in the mail. The PvP gear you can purchase, which cost an arm and a leg, are mediocre in comparison to the stuff I can already craft for myself. No, for the majority of players, these rewards only serve to be decontructed or sold to a vendor for a pittance of gold.

Oooops! Not rude at all. I did write it on 4th april. I mean. For a newbie, the rewards were very good. Thank you for the post. I agree. The rewards, now that I have more experience with the game (I only did one beta weekend) are terrible. You have no motivation to do pvp, unless you are VR10 and bored. Then again, I fully agree. We can craft better stuff.
They need to rethink some stuff about pvp
PS. Now I understand what I did got a "LOL"

Oh, I must apologize. I have a bad habit of not reading the dates in posts. Indeed, since this thread was current, I assumed all the posts within it were fairly current too xD

I'd like to see the Capture XYZ Keep/Resource quests changed.

If you get an out of the way, behind enemy lines objective, your only options are to (1) hold on to the quest and hope your alliance moves that direction or (2) abandon and pick up the quest until you get a more desirable objective. That's boring and cumbersome and kind of exploitable, I think. You could PvP for a few hours and never hit an objective if you're accepting the quests as intended.

It'd be nice if the system was changed so that any resource captured and any keep captured would fulfill the quest so you could complete them multiple times per day. As it stands you can get really lucky with your objectives or you can game the system to pick an easier objective, which is relatively poor design in my opinion.

They nerfed it hard.

My guild leader, leveled in cyrodiil to VR1 in about 70 hours DURING BETA.

The same guy, has been doing nothing but cyrodiil for 3 weeks, is level 45. and he plays for hours

Sharee wrote: »

If i had to guess, i'd say xp gains in PvP are tuned to huge keeps sieges where people are dying like flies en masse. If you had decent xp for a single kill, you would gain several levels in such a massive fight.

And honestly, i do not mind slow xp gains, i am in no hurry to get to level 50. I started playing on day 1 of 5-day early access and my highest character is level 8

Its not.

In a huge siege where "people are dying like flies en masse" the XP gains are still near zero.

Even if those large sieges with constant deaths were the state of the game at all times XP would be far too low still.

The answer to the OP's question is, XP is so low because Zenimax dropped the ball and they aren't picking it back up. They are taking a huge dump all over the best part of their game and patch after patch shows they don't really know, don't care, or lack competence to either evaluate the issue properly or fix the issue.

Zenimax is obviously having some internal issues they need to work out.

My only concern is that if they offered that much exp in PvP, no one would play the story content, they'd PvP to 50 and quit from boredom. I think PvP was meant to be a supplement to the game rather than the game itself. Just an opinion though, I've spent no time in cirodil so I'm not really qualified to discuss it

Ramanadjinn wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Zenimax is obviously having some internal issues they need to work out.

+1 I was wondering the same. As much as you love the game some things are hard to explain.

AsheRayne wrote: »

My only concern is that if they offered that much exp in PvP, no one would play the story content, they'd PvP to 50 and quit from boredom. I think PvP was meant to be a supplement to the game rather than the game itself. Just an opinion though, I've spent no time in cirodil so I'm not really qualified to discuss it

Why would someone NOT doing the pve concern you?? If there was a viable alternative for leveling, via PvP, the ones that wanted to lvl in pvp would do so. And the ones that wanted to level PvE and enjoy the "storyline" would do that. And it's not like leveling in pvp precludes you from doing the storyline later, at your leisure.

Ramanadjinn wrote: »

A large part of us are already skipping the PVE content in favor of grinding only to go back and do it later anyways. If I want to spend most of my time PVPing it makes sense to get to 50 ASAP.

I know very few pvp enthusiasts who actually did the quests to get to 50.

So how did they level if not in PvE and with XP in Cyrodil being so low?

Throc wrote: »

Ramanadjinn wrote: »

A large part of us are already skipping the PVE content in favor of grinding only to go back and do it later anyways. If I want to spend most of my time PVPing it makes sense to get to 50 ASAP.

I know very few pvp enthusiasts who actually did the quests to get to 50.

So how did they level if not in PvE and with XP in Cyrodil being so low?

Grinding mobs in the PVE zones is what i'm talking about. Mostly Rivenspire, Alikr, and running circles in coldharbour.

I agree that they should find a way to balance out the levels better. it sucks I have to do so much pve to stay high enough leveled for being viable in pvp.