Skyshard crown cost

Androconium · May 2019

This sounds ludicrous.

Even if you do P2W and buy the shards rather than earn them, you still have to grind the skills before you can apply them.

Or did I miss some other P2W gimmick?

vellectra · May 2019

i pray they're 100 crowns each. that's a VERY reasonable price and many people would buy them at that price for their alts, especially if they have many alts.

CleymenZero · May 2019

vellectra wrote: »

i pray they're 100 crowns each. that's a VERY reasonable price and many people would buy them at that price for their alts, especially if they have many alts.

At 100 Crowns a piece, I'm buying them for my 16+ characters when the time comes!

It unfortunately doesn't look like it's happening. This wasn't made for the regular player....

themaddaedra · May 2019

Shalktonin wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

cheifsoap wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

ZOS never fails to disappoint when it comes to monetization, so i suggest y'all to expect the worst. They are simply bad and greedy in that regard.

Let's try not to paint everyone with the same broad stroke. The odds are, their business people are to blame, not the developers or designers.

I really don't know what you mean by blaming the business. This business could be done in 9.999.999 better ways. Hunger is hunger, greed is greed. There are gazillions of examples of this.

For example, did you believe when Rich said they won't do class change token because it's hard to do? Did anyone actually buy that? They take their players for bunch of fools then expect respect? I'll tell here as i tell everywhere: ZOS won't make class change token because selling everything bit by bit instead is at least 10 times the price! Starting with skyshards soon, here is your reason.

So, i can actually very well point ZOS, or say whoever is in charge of monetization in there, and say they are greedy af. It's a fact.

your delusions are not a basis for fact.

kk pal.

Morgul667 · May 2019

ZO$ Is likely to mess the price as they usually do

I expect the worst and they never disappoint in this area

eso_lags · May 2019

Regardless of the price its a scam. Im not sure why this company has to putt everything good behind a pay wall. The dlcs, chapters, crown crates, and everything already in the crown store aren't enough i suppose... I mean maybe i woudnt mind it tif i ever saw game improvements, but i dont.. But It couldn't be "do something in game, or pay gold, to get it".. Nope, has to be money. Just like race changes or decent looking mounts. Things that should be in game..

Either way its a scam til console players get a skyshard map.. And i hope most console players realize it, not that zos cares, but still.

illutian · May 2019

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

CleymenZero · May 2019

illutian wrote: »

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

Damn... Those like you who seem fine paying 1.5k per zone are the reason things are priced high.

If you don't buy something you because of the price, you send a message. You're telling them "no deal".

I'm not blaming people like you per say but it's just how it works.

I'm still hoping for something more reasonable for someone who has 16 characters...

illutian · May 2019

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

Damn... Those like you who seem fine paying 1.5k per zone are the reason things are priced high.

If you don't buy something you because of the price, you send a message. You're telling them "no deal".

I'm not blaming people like you per say but it's just how it works.

I'm still hoping for something more reasonable for someone who has 16 characters...

I said 1500 for each 'pack' of the original AD, DC, EP. Right now, it's worded you'd have to pay for the Auridon Pack, The Greenshade Pack, Grahtwood Pack, etc; there's like 5 zones per Alliance. And I HIGHLY doubt a zone will cost 250 Crowns...more like 500. So that's be ~2500 crowns to get each Alliance's Skyshard collection.

After those, I don't really care if they want 1500 for "Expansion Skyshards".

All the shards in the expansions are super easy to get since it's just a few new zones. - I'm looking and it says "with Morrowind" we could get 381 skyshards. I'm pretty sure Morrowind only introduced a few dozen (less than 30). Cyrodiil only had like 46-ish. That means the majority of Skyshards in the game is coming from AD, DC, and EP zones.

So, no, I'd say mine is much more friendly for those who don't want to spend a lot of money.

EDIT: Updated the number of zones from 7 to 5...felt like 7! XD

CleymenZero · May 2019

illutian wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

Damn... Those like you who seem fine paying 1.5k per zone are the reason things are priced high.

If you don't buy something you because of the price, you send a message. You're telling them "no deal".

I'm not blaming people like you per say but it's just how it works.

I'm still hoping for something more reasonable for someone who has 16 characters...

I said 1500 for each 'pack' of the original AD, DC, EP. Right now, it's worded you'd have to pay for the Auridon Pack, The Greenshade Pack, Grahtwood Pack, etc; there's like 5 zones per Alliance. And I HIGHLY doubt a zone will cost 250 Crowns...more like 500. So that's be ~2500 crowns to get each Alliance's Skyshard collection.

After those, I don't really care if they want 1500 for "Expansion Skyshards".

All the shards in the expansions are super easy to get since it's just a few new zones. - I'm looking and it says "with Morrowind" we could get 381 skyshards. I'm pretty sure Morrowind only introduced a few dozen (less than 30). Cyrodiil only had like 46-ish. That means the majority of Skyshards in the game is coming from AD, DC, and EP zones.

So, no, I'd say mine is much more friendly for those who don't want to spend a lot of money.

EDIT: Updated the number of zones from 7 to 5...felt like 7! XD

Ahhh Sry my bad. That would be a tad more reasonable to sell packs.

My angst with all this is this system is convenient for people with 1-2 alts but those that have 15-18 characters when this comes out are left on the dust....

I would pay let's say, 2k more per pack to have it account-wide.

Aulus_Claudius · May 2019

MinuitPro wrote: »

I was simply hoping they were going to add an "all zones" option... wishful thinking though.

I think they'll just be shooting themselves in the foot if they make it cost per skyshard. Who's going to buy it other than the richest whales?

Heck, if they want my money (and I'm more than willing to pay for skyshards on my alts), they have to make it a one-time, account-wide unlock. As alt-friendly as possible. For that, they can make it ridiculously expensive and I'd still consider it, but never on a per character basis.

illutian · May 2019

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

Damn... Those like you who seem fine paying 1.5k per zone are the reason things are priced high.

If you don't buy something you because of the price, you send a message. You're telling them "no deal".

I'm not blaming people like you per say but it's just how it works.

I'm still hoping for something more reasonable for someone who has 16 characters...

I said 1500 for each 'pack' of the original AD, DC, EP. Right now, it's worded you'd have to pay for the Auridon Pack, The Greenshade Pack, Grahtwood Pack, etc; there's like 5 zones per Alliance. And I HIGHLY doubt a zone will cost 250 Crowns...more like 500. So that's be ~2500 crowns to get each Alliance's Skyshard collection.

After those, I don't really care if they want 1500 for "Expansion Skyshards".

All the shards in the expansions are super easy to get since it's just a few new zones. - I'm looking and it says "with Morrowind" we could get 381 skyshards. I'm pretty sure Morrowind only introduced a few dozen (less than 30). Cyrodiil only had like 46-ish. That means the majority of Skyshards in the game is coming from AD, DC, and EP zones.

So, no, I'd say mine is much more friendly for those who don't want to spend a lot of money.

EDIT: Updated the number of zones from 7 to 5...felt like 7! XD

Ahhh Sry my bad. That would be a tad more reasonable to sell packs.

My angst with all this is this system is convenient for people with 1-2 alts but those that have 15-18 characters when this comes out are left on the dust....

I would pay let's say, 2k more per pack to have it account-wide.

That's also why I said 1500, I think I get like 1650 crowns with ESO+ each month. If you're like me, you don't spend a whole lot on the Crown Store. ((For me it's mostly Research Scrolls))

But each month you could buy an 'Alliance Skyshard Pack'. Then on the 4th month start buying each zone of each expansion. All for "free"; assuming you're on ESO+ for other reasons than the Crown stipend. ((I haven't finished the original campaign...5 years in the doing! But I think each expansion introduced only three or less zones. So it'd take maybe a year to get all the zones for each alt you make; assuming you don't go out and get any Shards yourself.))

RedTalon · May 2019

I am only going to be buying the cyro packs most likely, just got all of them on my main, those ones behind the gates aren't worth getting twice and with faction locks will be impossible on some factions to get them now

Imperial city ones are easier and so on, but wonder how much all those shards will costs myself gioven cyro has the most for a single zone

CleymenZero · May 2019

illutian wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

Damn... Those like you who seem fine paying 1.5k per zone are the reason things are priced high.

If you don't buy something you because of the price, you send a message. You're telling them "no deal".

I'm not blaming people like you per say but it's just how it works.

I'm still hoping for something more reasonable for someone who has 16 characters...

I said 1500 for each 'pack' of the original AD, DC, EP. Right now, it's worded you'd have to pay for the Auridon Pack, The Greenshade Pack, Grahtwood Pack, etc; there's like 5 zones per Alliance. And I HIGHLY doubt a zone will cost 250 Crowns...more like 500. So that's be ~2500 crowns to get each Alliance's Skyshard collection.

After those, I don't really care if they want 1500 for "Expansion Skyshards".

All the shards in the expansions are super easy to get since it's just a few new zones. - I'm looking and it says "with Morrowind" we could get 381 skyshards. I'm pretty sure Morrowind only introduced a few dozen (less than 30). Cyrodiil only had like 46-ish. That means the majority of Skyshards in the game is coming from AD, DC, and EP zones.

So, no, I'd say mine is much more friendly for those who don't want to spend a lot of money.

EDIT: Updated the number of zones from 7 to 5...felt like 7! XD

Ahhh Sry my bad. That would be a tad more reasonable to sell packs.

My angst with all this is this system is convenient for people with 1-2 alts but those that have 15-18 characters when this comes out are left on the dust....

I would pay let's say, 2k more per pack to have it account-wide.

That's also why I said 1500, I think I get like 1650 crowns with ESO+ each month. If you're like me, you don't spend a whole lot on the Crown Store. ((For me it's mostly Research Scrolls))

But each month you could buy an 'Alliance Skyshard Pack'. Then on the 4th month start buying each zone of each expansion. All for "free"; assuming you're on ESO+ for other reasons than the Crown stipend. ((I haven't finished the original campaign...5 years in the doing! But I think each expansion introduced only three or less zones. So it'd take maybe a year to get all the zones for each alt you make; assuming you don't go out and get any Shards yourself.))

My build for skyshards on a new character is fjord, jailbresker, all divines with a shield, Steed Mundus and 3 swift.

You'll run faster than your horse with major gallop and will be able to complete zones in about 20 minutes. I'm just not willing to do it 14+ times. The advantage with this is that the speed bonus applies in delves so you speed through everything.

So considering this, I really want an account-wide option. I'm not going to pay 1.5k 12-14 times... that's a huge waste of money. Like one guy just said, they have to make it alt friendly...

randomkeyhits · May 2019

Thought about this and realised that I'd be doing the zones anyway on alts. I'm in no hurry and don't have that many.

Wayshrines, points of interest, mages guild books, ticking off all sorts of things and would get most of the skyshards in the process.

So for me this would only be usable as a filler, to get the ones I missed.

No doubt they'll price it based on needing every shard and probably priced by the outfitter person just for extra salt.

I reckon that that I'll look at what they do and just turn away, for me it won't hold value.

Lumenn · May 2019

While I wouldn't be THRILLED with 1500 per faction I'd be much more inclined than per zone. I have friends who won't play due to the eso plus all dlc included but we'll call THESE chapters instead and charge(yes Zos, I'm sure you know the gaming community talks, and crown store nickel and dime, p2w, rumors, true or not can scare off potential customers)

Skyshard shortcut in my opinion isn't a p2w but a reasonable charge could go a long way(and possibly make you more money) to ease a money hungry, bad customer service, reputation. A charge per faction group > than charge per shard, or zone.

Jhalin · May 2019

randomkeyhits wrote: »

Thought about this and realised that I'd be doing the zones anyway on alts. I'm in no hurry and don't have that many.

Wayshrines, points of interest, mages guild books, ticking off all sorts of things and would get most of the skyshards in the process.

So for me this would only be usable as a filler, to get the ones I missed.

No doubt they'll price it based on needing every shard and probably priced by the outfitter person just for extra salt.

I reckon that that I'll look at what they do and just turn away, for me it won't hold value.

The description text confirms that. Just like the DLC bundles won’t discount based on owning part of the pack already, these skillpoint packs will cost full price, and “grant any remaining skyshards” from the zone” regardless o how many you already have

Everyone asking for these P2W shortcuts is going to get us all Monkey’s Paw’ed

CleymenZero · May 2019

Lumenn wrote: »

While I wouldn't be THRILLED with 1500 per faction I'd be much more inclined than per zone. I have friends who won't play due to the eso plus all dlc included but we'll call THESE chapters instead and charge(yes Zos, I'm sure you know the gaming community talks, and crown store nickel and dime, p2w, rumors, true or not can scare off potential customers)

Skyshard shortcut in my opinion isn't a p2w but a reasonable charge could go a long way(and possibly make you more money) to ease a money hungry, bad customer service, reputation. A charge per faction group > than charge per shard, or zone.

Glad to see there are more with a bit of hope. It would pay well in PR and in revenue if the price was relatively low (read accessible to everyone).

Looking at how pessimistic people are about the pricing on these, they would gain a bit of recognition from making these more available.

À relatively low price would net them more money I think. They'd make a huge chunk right away instead of making 1.5k crumb by crumb. The ones with 1-2 alts would buy everything right away and keep buying as they make more characters and the ones with many alts wouldn't be priced out of this feature. I gather, those with 1-2 alts would probably make a lot more characters and end up buying more as they go when they realize the huge QoL improvement that feature would bring. I'd play a lot of my alts more as well.

Finally, if this feature is expensive, it has to be account-wide to be fair to players with many and few alts.

The racial passive changes was a blow to those with many alts if there were changes, as mild as they could be, that would justify a switch... I took a hit with that, I won't with this new feature...

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · May 2019

CleymenZero wrote: »

MinuitPro wrote: »

My experienced guess would be 250 or 400 each but there will most likely be no communication on it until we see it live.

+ I was simply hoping they were going to add an "all zones" option... wishful thinking though.

I was soooo hoping for this.

As someone who:
- Has all Skyshards and skill points possible on my main
- Has 14 and soon at least 16 characters
- Obtained about 30% of skyshards with other characters
- Did the Mages Guild 6 times
- Did the Psijic line 9 times
- Leveled all crafting to 50 on most of my characters

I was hoping that all skyshards would cost about 30% per character.

There's a breakpoint for me at which I won't buy if it's too ludicrous. At 30$ per character, that would be a chunk of change but I'd probably afford it. Any higher and I'm out of the skyshard purchasing game...

As for those who say that's p2w, I'd make them realize that it is situational. I've done so much legwork to get to where I am that farming for skyshard will take my enjoyment of the game away again (I've had the blues a few times).

I just hope the achivements are not cost-prohibitive....

I dont really agree with the 30$ thing...simply cuz it makes stuff close to the pay to win border...the higher it goes the more appeals the large pokets irl people...its already bad enough they decided to allow this kind of stuff in to the game...instead of finding other ways of making money...so yeah probably next will come story skipping tokens or all dungeons quests skip for skill points...maybe even pvp rank skill points skip where u can just buy ur GO rank...sure these are just things u can get in game but not "easily" and with actual heavy working and time consuming...but instead lets just throw in some money and get over it... nevermind all the people who been working hard and stick with the game.

Nebthet78 · May 2019

I'm hoping they put it in line with the Mount upgrade packs.
750crowns for 10 lessons.

so 750 crowns for a zone that contains 10 or so skyshards would be somewhat reasonable.

Universe · May 2019

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I'm hoping they put it in line with the Mount upgrade packs.
750crowns for 10 lessons.

so 750 crowns for a zone that contains 10 or so skyshards would be somewhat reasonable.

If it will be very cheap, no one will bother collecting them the normal way, i.e playing the game.
ZOS will want players to pay an high cost for the privilege of skipping the mega grind of collecting skyshards.
Anything below 3K-4K crowns for a large zone will be unreasonable.
The cost may be even 5K+ for a large zone.

Bouldercleave · May 2019

For me, nothing.

I actually have enjoyed playing through the game on alts and have no issues collecting the shards on my own again.

I have never collected all the ones in Cyrodil anyway, so I wouldn't be able to buy those and that would be the ONLY zone that I would buy.

FlopsyPrince · May 2019

I would love to avoid wasting time finding all the skyshards again on each alt. I really want to play the rest of the game instead. But I cannot see paying the likely cost, especially on a per-character basis. I will just keep plugging away instead, at least until it becomes too tedious and I stop playing.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · May 2019

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

I would love to avoid wasting time finding all the skyshards again on each alt. I really want to play the rest of the game instead. But I cannot see paying the likely cost, especially on a per-character basis. I will just keep plugging away instead, at least until it becomes too tedious and I stop playing.

gona be fun to see how many people would pay lets say 30$/zone to get shards on 15 more characters...assuming they already did the manual labor on the main character...daiumn...zos rly makes it rain!

CleymenZero · May 2019

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

MinuitPro wrote: »

My experienced guess would be 250 or 400 each but there will most likely be no communication on it until we see it live.

+ I was simply hoping they were going to add an "all zones" option... wishful thinking though.

I was soooo hoping for this.

As someone who:
- Has all Skyshards and skill points possible on my main
- Has 14 and soon at least 16 characters
- Obtained about 30% of skyshards with other characters
- Did the Mages Guild 6 times
- Did the Psijic line 9 times
- Leveled all crafting to 50 on most of my characters

I was hoping that all skyshards would cost about 30% per character.

There's a breakpoint for me at which I won't buy if it's too ludicrous. At 30$ per character, that would be a chunk of change but I'd probably afford it. Any higher and I'm out of the skyshard purchasing game...

As for those who say that's p2w, I'd make them realize that it is situational. I've done so much legwork to get to where I am that farming for skyshard will take my enjoyment of the game away again (I've had the blues a few times).

I just hope the achivements are not cost-prohibitive....

I dont really agree with the 30$ thing...simply cuz it makes stuff close to the pay to win border...the higher it goes the more appeals the large pokets irl people...its already bad enough they decided to allow this kind of stuff in to the game...instead of finding other ways of making money...so yeah probably next will come story skipping tokens or all dungeons quests skip for skill points...maybe even pvp rank skill points skip where u can just buy ur GO rank...sure these are just things u can get in game but not "easily" and with actual heavy working and time consuming...but instead lets just throw in some money and get over it... nevermind all the people who been working hard and stick with the game.

I agree partially with you. I think it's pay2skip more than pay2win since you HAVE to have collected all skyshards before being able to purchase. I find the process of making every alt grind for the same thing over and over again mind-numbing. When I realized the Champion system was account-wide, I lost it. I found it so amazing that you didn't have to grind all this stuff with another alt.

A year and a half ago, I bothered doing the Mages Guild Storyline on 4-6 characters for the 2 skill points. I then lost enjoyment of the game. I did the Psijic 9-11 times... The thought of doing it again gives me hives. I collected ALL skill points currently available on my main, did the EP faction with another toon, hit Cold Harbour with main story on a bunch of characters.

From my perspective, I'm fine with skipping a lot of the story missions at this point if you did it once on another character. Most or all pay2skip features will unfortunately have to be paid for with irl money and there's no other way to skip the skyshards other than paying for them with cash (no gold option).

At this point, I'm accepting my situation as: multiple alt-friendly = buy, expensive = no buy.

CleymenZero · May 2019

Universe wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I'm hoping they put it in line with the Mount upgrade packs.
750crowns for 10 lessons.

so 750 crowns for a zone that contains 10 or so skyshards would be somewhat reasonable.

If it will be very cheap, no one will bother collecting them the normal way, i.e playing the game.
ZOS will want players to pay an high cost for the privilege of skipping the mega grind of collecting skyshards.
Anything below 3K-4K crowns for a large zone will be unreasonable.
The cost may be even 5K+ for a large zone.

I hope not because it could argued that collecting multiple skyshards for the nth time is hardly playing the game. You're spending time on the game but do you seriously consider collecting skyshards for a character after collecting more than a thousand "playing the game"?

It's hard to read my tone but I'm not being aggressive, I'm genuinely curious to know if you think that collecting skyshards and doing quests for skill points over and over again after completing them on 1-2 character playing the game?

I'll tell you what I consider playing the game:
- Cyrodiil (when it works)
- Battlegrounds
- Trials
- Dungeons

What I named above are features, arguments you could use to sell a game. Collecting skyshards and doing the story or guild quests multiple times is only a feature the first time you do it. After that it's a chore.

It might be heavily opinionated but it is how I see it. You don't sell a game saying: when you create alts, you'll be able to redo all the quests and will have to go around Tamriel to collect skyshard to acquire skill points.

Universe · May 2019

CleymenZero wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I'm hoping they put it in line with the Mount upgrade packs.
750crowns for 10 lessons.

so 750 crowns for a zone that contains 10 or so skyshards would be somewhat reasonable.

If it will be very cheap, no one will bother collecting them the normal way, i.e playing the game.
ZOS will want players to pay an high cost for the privilege of skipping the mega grind of collecting skyshards.
Anything below 3K-4K crowns for a large zone will be unreasonable.
The cost may be even 5K+ for a large zone.

I hope not because it could argued that collecting multiple skyshards for the nth time is hardly playing the game. You're spending time on the game but do you seriously consider collecting skyshards for a character after collecting more than a thousand "playing the game"?

It's hard to read my tone but I'm not being aggressive, I'm genuinely curious to know if you think that collecting skyshards and doing quests for skill points over and over again after completing them on 1-2 character playing the game?

I'll tell you what I consider playing the game:
- Cyrodiil (when it works)
- Battlegrounds
- Trials
- Dungeons

What I named above are features, arguments you could use to sell a game. Collecting skyshards and doing the story or guild quests multiple times is only a feature the first time you do it. After that it's a chore.

It might be heavily opinionated but it is how I see it. You don't sell a game saying: when you create alts, you'll be able to redo all the quests and will have to go around Tamriel to collect skyshard to acquire skill points.

I always liked the "Tamriel Hero" achievement and I got it several times.
The commitment & patience to do all quests is not something to take lightly

Same for Skyshards, it is time spent exploring & collecting them, even if not doing everything which is near them, such as quests.

illutian · May 2019

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

illutian wrote: »

They really should group up the Alliances' zones into DC Shard, AD Shard, and EP Shard packs. Then sell each pack for like 1500 crowns; just under what we get free with an ESO+ sub. - That'd be a solid 3 month sub from anyone looking to skip the older zones and start in the new zones.

Then go with a per-zone pack for each subsequent zone introduced in expansions.

Damn... Those like you who seem fine paying 1.5k per zone are the reason things are priced high.

If you don't buy something you because of the price, you send a message. You're telling them "no deal".

I'm not blaming people like you per say but it's just how it works.

I'm still hoping for something more reasonable for someone who has 16 characters...

I said 1500 for each 'pack' of the original AD, DC, EP. Right now, it's worded you'd have to pay for the Auridon Pack, The Greenshade Pack, Grahtwood Pack, etc; there's like 5 zones per Alliance. And I HIGHLY doubt a zone will cost 250 Crowns...more like 500. So that's be ~2500 crowns to get each Alliance's Skyshard collection.

After those, I don't really care if they want 1500 for "Expansion Skyshards".

All the shards in the expansions are super easy to get since it's just a few new zones. - I'm looking and it says "with Morrowind" we could get 381 skyshards. I'm pretty sure Morrowind only introduced a few dozen (less than 30). Cyrodiil only had like 46-ish. That means the majority of Skyshards in the game is coming from AD, DC, and EP zones.

So, no, I'd say mine is much more friendly for those who don't want to spend a lot of money.

EDIT: Updated the number of zones from 7 to 5...felt like 7! XD

Ahhh Sry my bad. That would be a tad more reasonable to sell packs.

My angst with all this is this system is convenient for people with 1-2 alts but those that have 15-18 characters when this comes out are left on the dust....

I would pay let's say, 2k more per pack to have it account-wide.

That's also why I said 1500, I think I get like 1650 crowns with ESO+ each month. If you're like me, you don't spend a whole lot on the Crown Store. ((For me it's mostly Research Scrolls))

But each month you could buy an 'Alliance Skyshard Pack'. Then on the 4th month start buying each zone of each expansion. All for "free"; assuming you're on ESO+ for other reasons than the Crown stipend. ((I haven't finished the original campaign...5 years in the doing! But I think each expansion introduced only three or less zones. So it'd take maybe a year to get all the zones for each alt you make; assuming you don't go out and get any Shards yourself.))

My build for skyshards on a new character is fjord, jailbresker, all divines with a shield, Steed Mundus and 3 swift.

You'll run faster than your horse with major gallop and will be able to complete zones in about 20 minutes. I'm just not willing to do it 14+ times. The advantage with this is that the speed bonus applies in delves so you speed through everything.

So considering this, I really want an account-wide option. I'm not going to pay 1.5k 12-14 times... that's a huge waste of money. Like one guy just said, they have to make it alt friendly...

I ran Charging Maneuver and did a lot of "just passing" to get all but 6 Shards on my main.

For me, I'd probably only get the packs on my Warden and Necro.

As for being 'alt friendly', well...this game has never been 'alt friendly': You have to redo 'the story' on each character or miss out on something like 14 skillpoints, Skyshards aren't account wide, and Outfit Slot unlocks aren't account-wide (from what I've read). - In other games, the MSQ doesn't really matter. It just tells a story, but doesn't give you anything that objectively makes your character permanently better.

CleymenZero · May 2019

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I'm hoping they put it in line with the Mount upgrade packs.
750crowns for 10 lessons.

so 750 crowns for a zone that contains 10 or so skyshards would be somewhat reasonable.

If it will be very cheap, no one will bother collecting them the normal way, i.e playing the game.
ZOS will want players to pay an high cost for the privilege of skipping the mega grind of collecting skyshards.
Anything below 3K-4K crowns for a large zone will be unreasonable.
The cost may be even 5K+ for a large zone.

I hope not because it could argued that collecting multiple skyshards for the nth time is hardly playing the game. You're spending time on the game but do you seriously consider collecting skyshards for a character after collecting more than a thousand "playing the game"?

It's hard to read my tone but I'm not being aggressive, I'm genuinely curious to know if you think that collecting skyshards and doing quests for skill points over and over again after completing them on 1-2 character playing the game?

I'll tell you what I consider playing the game:
- Cyrodiil (when it works)
- Battlegrounds
- Trials
- Dungeons

What I named above are features, arguments you could use to sell a game. Collecting skyshards and doing the story or guild quests multiple times is only a feature the first time you do it. After that it's a chore.

It might be heavily opinionated but it is how I see it. You don't sell a game saying: when you create alts, you'll be able to redo all the quests and will have to go around Tamriel to collect skyshard to acquire skill points.

I always liked the "Tamriel Hero" achievement and I got it several times.
The commitment & patience to do all quests is not something to take lightly
Same for Skyshards, it is time spent exploring & collecting them, even if not doing everything which is near them, such as quests.

Wow, I flawlessed vMA with 9 or 10 of my characters so if rather continue and flawless the rest. I expected some people to actually enjoy the running around but it's only a part of the user base. And those that tire of the "chores" and consider other activities in the game to be the actual game are also another part of the user base.

There are many types of people who play this game. My experiences and interest so for me the skyshard achievement would greay but it's very important for it to remain financially accessible and not only for the dude that has 1-2 alts and would just purchase a pack here and there.

Banana · May 2019

Skill lines next zos.