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Fair prices on the community designed T-shirts

  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Seems strange that they want to limit advertising. There would be more money for them if they sold five dollar shirts with their product on it to everyone possible. As a business owner, would you rather have 1,000 people wearing an expensive shirt with your logo on it, or 100,000 wearing a cheap shirt advertising your product?

    It was not our goal to make money off of this t-shirt. We just wanted to give our current active players (which we're measuring by Q4 in-game event participation) an opportunity to buy it, should they wish.

    Edited by ZOS_JessicaFolsom on 14 December 2018 14:20
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  • Gythral
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Seems strange that they want to limit advertising. There would be more money for them if they sold five dollar shirts with their product on it to everyone possible. As a business owner, would you rather have 1,000 people wearing an expensive shirt with your logo on it, or 100,000 wearing a cheap shirt advertising your product?

    It was not our goal to make money off of this t-shirt. We just wanted to give our current active players (which we're measuring by Q4 in-game event participation) an opportunity to buy it, should they wish.

    Which seems to have failed for a large number of reasons:
    from no email to no code even after getting an email or following the twitter feed (to mention the most glaring)

    After all who is going to buy a 'cotton'(ZOS term, so it could be anything) T-Shirt for £4.4m ???
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Tholian1 wrote: »
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    I can’t login to the support page @ZOS_JessicaFolsom . It tells me login failed. Is there a different login for the support page than the account page?

    Try using a different browser, @Tholian1.

    I’ve tried on 3 browsers. I can log in to my account page, but not the support site with the same login.

    i had to turn off my ad block to get it to work. also i was so nervous that the discount would actually apply, that i forgot to change the size to large. so now i have a small coming. wish that this was handled some other way. very nerve racking.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on 14 December 2018 14:40
  • motub
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    OK now it's working as expected. I like that at the NA store there's a note saying that the voucher reduces the price to "normal" levels (although the shirt is a bit expensive and that's before shipping). This note is not present in the EU store.

    Had to order from the EU store though, because the NA store wouldn't ship to my country (in Europe). Was hoping to save a few Euros via the conversion. But the order went through fine at the EU store, so I'm glad that the issues were (apparently) solved. The "joke" would have been funnier if the voucher had worked properly yesterday, and it's not really that funny anyway, especially if players without the voucher are just shopping for Yuletide gifts for friends and acquaintances. In that case, it just looks..... um, arrogant, shall we say?

    Also find it regrettable that when shopping there is no view of the back of the shirt, which I assume says "#ourelderscrolls"? Perhaps with the website address? And possibly also the several company logos (which would be a bit much, but quite possible)? Who knows? I guess I'll see at the end of March. I do like that there's a sizing chart (in centimeters in the Europe store!) to help women guess what size men's shirt they might want.

    But whatever. Congratulations to the design contest winner. I do like the front. Makes a nice talking point if it catches someone's eye and they ask.

  • Ageless
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    What I find sad is that the NA Merch server has larger size t-shirts than the EU Merch server. The maximum size in EU is XXL, whereas the maximum size in America is 3XL. I'd rather buy a 3XL and have it sit a bit extra around me, than an XXL that's a very tight fit. Can we please get same size shirts in both places?
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  • Elsonso
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    Ageless wrote: »
    What I find sad is that the NA Merch server has larger size t-shirts than the EU Merch server. The maximum size in EU is XXL, whereas the maximum size in America is 3XL. I'd rather buy a 3XL and have it sit a bit extra around me, than an XXL that's a very tight fit. Can we please get same size shirts in both places?

    Americans are fat. Be thankful. :neutral:
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    I can’t login to the support page @ZOS_JessicaFolsom . It tells me login failed. Is there a different login for the support page than the account page?

    Try using a different browser, @Tholian1.

    I’ve tried on 3 browsers. I can log in to my account page, but not the support site with the same login.

    i had to turn off my ad block to get it to work. also i was so nervous that the discount would actually apply, that i forgot to change the size to large. so now i have a small coming. wish that this was handled some other way. very nerve racking.

    There was nothing to worry about. Most payment methods that people are going to be using will not allow Bethesda to come along and put a 440 Million lien against it. Chances are that Bethesda has a cap on what people can spend in their store such that it would not even work.
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  • Ageless
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    Americans are fat. Be thankful. :neutral:
    So am I. ;)
    But since I am in Europe I cannot order the t-shirt via the American server, I can only order it via the EU one. Which hasn't got the 3XL size shirts.

    Jord.

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    And all those caught in the shadow of my wings have cause to fear.
    I swear on all I've done, no evil shall linger here.

  • Delsanab14_ESO
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    If the goal wasn't to make money, the shirt could have been provided for free. Let's be honest here. Tho give every "active" (active during events and new players is a bit of a different metric than "active" in terms of concurrent monthly playing) player a bundle of crates (for free) and you'll see far more happiness than a t-shirt to appreciate.
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  • Elsonso
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    If the goal wasn't to make money, the shirt could have been provided for free.

    Obviously, the goal was not to lose money, either.
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  • Girl_Number8
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    If you add one to your basket, delete it, then add it again the price drops to a mere 369,749,580.67 EUR

    I'm ordering one now then before it goes back up to full price... :o

    Make sure you're following the instructions here, except go to the right website at help.elderscrollsonline.com ;)


    You're waiting for that one person that doesn't use the coupon to get us better servers, right? :)

  • Rukzadlithau
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    I hope the genius that came up with this PR masterpiece gets an extra big and juicy Christmas kiss from Eric himself. Who‘s a good boy? You‘re a good boy.
    Edited by Rukzadlithau on 14 December 2018 23:23
  • MasterSpatula
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    Well, I still don't see the email, but I was able to follow the link on Jessica's above post and place an order.

    Now fingers crossed that "classic fit" is actually classic fit and not one of those "American Apparel" styles that runs two sizes under what it claims. I play an MMO. I obviously am not a person who's gonna look good in a clingy shirt.

    (Seriously, the model ZOS chose? That dude's muscles have muscles.)
    Edited by MasterSpatula on 14 December 2018 21:54
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  • Sanctuary_Reaper
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    20GBP for a cheap crappy T Shirt, im good, i'll pick a N-ike T shirt Up for that in the boxing day sales.

    Anyone want a code ? lol

    Edited by Sanctuary_Reaper on 14 December 2018 21:54
  • Red_Feather
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    I got an email saying 'discount code' and it leads to a product that is so ridiculously overpriced that the 'discount' is technically true. So underhanded I'm unsubscribing from the emails. Please talk to whoever did that campaign as they are seriously f'ing your companies PR into the toilet.
  • motub
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    Tho give every "active" (active during events and new players is a bit of a different metric than "active" in terms of concurrent monthly playing) player a bundle of crates (for free) and you'll see far more happiness than a t-shirt to appreciate.

    Really? I don't know about you, but I'm drowning in Tri-Crown Restoration Potions, Crown Fortifying Meals, and Crown Lethal Poisons, and (please) don't say "convert them to Crown Gems", because you get like two for 50 Lethal Poisons.

    I can't imagine why I would be happier with more of that (or more body markings that I have no place on my body to put) than a T-shirt IRL (except for the savings of €24.00). Maybe it's me.

  • Gnortranermara
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    Can I buy it with AP?
  • Delsanab14_ESO
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    motub wrote: »
    Tho give every "active" (active during events and new players is a bit of a different metric than "active" in terms of concurrent monthly playing) player a bundle of crates (for free) and you'll see far more happiness than a t-shirt to appreciate.

    Really? I don't know about you, but I'm drowning in Tri-Crown Restoration Potions, Crown Fortifying Meals, and Crown Lethal Poisons, and (please) don't say "convert them to Crown Gems", because you get like two for 50 Lethal Poisons.

    I can't imagine why I would be happier with more of that (or more body markings that I have no place on my body to put) than a T-shirt IRL (except for the savings of €24.00). Maybe it's me.

    Possibly because of the potential for good things, the lack of any free crates this season, the fact gift gifting has become synonymous with Christmas? Etc?

    But let's address your concern. These crates will be special guaranteed purple or higher. OR perhaps it will be 1 crate from every crate season released? That'd be cool.
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  • motub
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    Yes, a crate from every crate season would be cool. :smiley:
  • Salvas_Aren
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    If any maniac here likes to buy two shirts, pn me for the code.

    If none needs it, it will get exclusively deleted by me.
  • EvilKiwi
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    This offer is a joke!! $14.99 for the shirt and $50 for shipping!! Yeah no thanks ZOS.
    No Lollygagging.
  • Tandor
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    What I would like to know is why I have to pay extra for the shipping? If I'm paying £523,602,380.00 for the T-shirt the least you could do is throw in the shipping.
  • Tandor
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    Hi all,
    The unusually high price you see before entering a discount code is intended to prevent anyone from buying the tee without a code from us.

    Frankly that has to be one of the daftest measures ever implemented. Most prospective buyers will see that initial price and not bother to input the code, assuming (as I did) that the whole thing was broken - especially today with such a mess over the PC EU server. Wouldn't a better way be to make entering the code a pre-requisite for registering the purchase?
    Edited by Tandor on 28 January 2019 19:25
  • generalmyrick
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    Seems strange that they want to limit advertising. There would be more money for them if they sold five dollar shirts with their product on it to everyone possible. As a business owner, would you rather have 1,000 people wearing an expensive shirt with your logo on it, or 100,000 wearing a cheap shirt advertising your product?

    It was not our goal to make money off of this t-shirt. We just wanted to give our current active players (which we're measuring by Q4 in-game event participation) an opportunity to buy it, should they wish.

    a lot of trouble to get a shirt.
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  • Elsonso
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    What has changed that this topic is suddenly current, again?
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  • drkfrontiers
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    You can keep your EU-only t-shirt...

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  • BackAndAngry
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    Need "EU Maintenance Excellence" themed t-shirt
    PSA - Crown items paid for cash have a chance to soon be obtainable in game for free
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  • Sindaril
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    Not sure if my code is 100% right...
  • Sarousse
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    Same here, after applying the reduction code :smile:

    tshirt2.jpg

    Looks like something is broken.
  • Ydrisselle
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    What has changed that this topic is suddenly current, again?

    Nothing, but ZOS sent out a mail to remind us not buying the shirt yet that we have the chance to do it... But the shipping cost is still way too high, so I'm sure I will not get it.
  • Sindaril
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    Sarousse wrote: »
    Same here, after applying the reduction code :smile:

    tshirt2.jpg

    Looks like something is broken.

    Your probably shouldn't put your redeemable code here like that :D
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