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Cast time on igneous shield
Artemiisia
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since this is the officielt answer for cast time for sorcs
ZOS_RobGarrett wrote: »
It was too easy to throw a bunch of effective health on yourself while making a minimal sacrifice in terms of DPS itemization and rotation. This applied to both PvE and PvP scenarios.
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The addition of a cast time makes that choice between damage output and survivability more deliberate and strategic.
then there should be cast time on igneous shield as well, since that applies to dk shield also
ZOS_RobGarrett wrote: »
It was too easy to throw a bunch of effective health on yourself while making a minimal sacrifice in terms of DPS itemization and rotation. This applied to both PvE and PvP scenarios.
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The addition of a cast time makes that choice between damage output and survivability more deliberate and strategic.
then there should be cast time on igneous shield as well, since that applies to dk shield also
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The last time Igneous Shield was used by high health tanks to give their groups mega shields that let then cheese vet content, it got nerfed. Quickly.
So, uh, unless Igneous Shield is being used to give groups large shields and cheese vet content again...5 -
Onefrkncrzypope✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bruh really. It's a baby shield unless high level health build.-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....9 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭the issue is what ZOS_RobGarrett says, dk pvp'ers has tons of surviibilty with their shield as well as huge damage output, so if it goes for sorc shields, then dk shield need a 1sec cast time to make it fair all around0 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Igneous Shield hasn’t been OP for years. People don’t use it to absorb damage they use it for the Mending buff!Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!8 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Another DK skill nerfed into Oblivion. You want more?
Good grief. I stopped slotting it anyway.2 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭harderd ward aint op either, I dont mind the new changes to shields, but if the 1 sec cast time is going live, then it should be all shields ingame that has it, or sorcs gets screwed over yet again.
lots of shields ingame should get 1 sec cast time then:
Templer sun shield
DK igneous shield
Bone shield
Deadly cloak
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Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tell you what, let's compromise. Take the 1 second time off of sorc shield but make it work exactly the same as igneous shield.
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Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now9 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Can we please remove the shield from it entirely so you sorcs can QQ about bone shield instead?(fragmented is already 1k shield for every 25k hp, igneous is about 3k . So what are you even talking about?)
How can you friggen compare sorcs running around with 20k shields to my 1k/3k shield that costs 4k magicka which is used on stamDk, not magicka. Are you so mad that you're asking for stamDk nerfs now?
I'm very glad you immature children are going to have to learn to play like the rest of us soon. Your toxic "nerf everything because I want so" mentality did hurt this game for long enough.Edited by Ragnarock41 on 21 September 2018 20:399 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Another DK skill nerfed into Oblivion. You want more?
Good grief. I stopped slotting it anyway.
well now you know how we sorcerers feel, when all threads is QQ about our shield0 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back1 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tell you what, let's compromise. Take the 1 second time off of sorc shield but make it work exactly the same as igneous shield.
Omg yesssss if they thought hardened Ward was bad wait till they have to slot a hot like mutagen instead of a delayed healing from healing Ward, by the time it heals them Mending will have worn off
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Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »Can we please remove the shield from it entirely so you sorcs can QQ about bone shield instead?(fragmented is already 1k shield for every 25k hp, igneous is about 3k . So what are you even talking about?)
How can you friggen compare sorcs running around with 20k shields to my 3k shield that costs 4k magicka which is used on stam, not magicka. Are you so mad that you're asking for stamDk nerfs now?
I'm very glad you immature children are going to have to learn to play like the rest of us soon.
well, im not wanting any nerf on shields, just if sorc shield need a 1 sec cast time, then its only fair every shield needs it0 -
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✭✭✭Only reason I used Igneous Shield was to proc the mortars from Infernal Guardian when I was screwing around with that monster set before getting Selene's. Was fun. Not enough fun to keep using it, but still fun.0 -
Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
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Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I keep wanting to give a serious response with a compare and contrast of Igneous Shield and Ward/Annulment, but the truth is, its pretty clear that doing so would be wasted, since this is a "I got nerfed, so everyone should be nerfed, even if the skills aren't actually equivalent in impact" type thread.
In other words, given that we've had lot of threads like this recently,
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✭You guys really want every other class to jump on the hate bandwagon don't you? Careful what you wish for.There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭well many of you guys that post here, are the once QQing in the past about sorcs, it funny to me seeing how fast you all start QQing when its suddenly you're skills we want gutted to the ground0 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
28 meter Rune Cage range...8 meter range on Fossilize...do you realize the skills can’t be fairly compared?Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!2 -
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✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
28 meter Rune Cage range...8 meter range on Fossilize...do you realize the skills can’t be fairly compared?
you only talk about range, not the hard cc that fossilize is, stun, damage, root........ rune cage you only have to either dodge now or breakfree from now. Fossilize, you have to break free, roll dodge and in battlegrounds, you half dead by that time0 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
28 meter Rune Cage range...8 meter range on Fossilize...do you realize the skills can’t be fairly compared?
you only talk about range, not the hard cc that fossilize is, stun, damage, root........ rune cage you only have to either dodge now or breakfree from now. Fossilize, you have to break free, roll dodge and in battlegrounds, you half dead by that time
But Sorcs are ranged casters with a class escape, if you’re in range of a Fossilize then as a Sorc you gotta L2P kiddo!Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!0 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Are Sorc's really that hurt that the 4 years of EZ mode is going away? So hurt that they need to start attacking other classes?
I see it more as it time for sorcerer to come out of the shadows and ask for other class nerf, since you guys have done that with everything we have now
Rune cage = worthless
Streak = cost extra every time we use it (no other gap closer and escape do that)
Shield = 1 sec cast time, practical worthless now, since when we actually need the shield in pvp, the melee players will be interrupting our casting
Fragtments = removed our stun
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Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
I would gladly take a dodgeable fossilize if it meant we got an execute. Then I could finally go back to running infused jewelry instead of bloodthirsty in PvP.
But that's beside the point, igneous and hardened ward are two radically different skills, and you'd have to be an idiot to not see that. If it will help you sleep tonight though, the main shield that DKs have used is getting the same treatment (harness/dampen). It tells a lot about you as a player when you keep asking for other classes to get nerfed.
"My class was overperforming, and required little skill to be good with, so they fixed it, and now I have to git gud but I don't want to, so ZOS plz bring the bar back down by making everyone else comparatively worse!!1!"0 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
28 meter Rune Cage range...8 meter range on Fossilize...do you realize the skills can’t be fairly compared?
you only talk about range, not the hard cc that fossilize is, stun, damage, root........ rune cage you only have to either dodge now or breakfree from now. Fossilize, you have to break free, roll dodge and in battlegrounds, you half dead by that time
But Sorcs are ranged casters with a class escape, if you’re in range of a Fossilize then as a Sorc you gotta L2P kiddo!
you havent played battleground have u? and you do know that telling people the L2p thing, is so 90s, time to use your brain and come up with new things to flame with, or you lack the creativity and need other people to copy from0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
28 meter Rune Cage range...8 meter range on Fossilize...do you realize the skills can’t be fairly compared?
you only talk about range, not the hard cc that fossilize is, stun, damage, root........ rune cage you only have to either dodge now or breakfree from now. Fossilize, you have to break free, roll dodge and in battlegrounds, you half dead by that time
But Sorcs are ranged casters with a class escape, if you’re in range of a Fossilize then as a Sorc you gotta L2P kiddo!
you havent played battleground have u? and you do know that telling people the L2p thing, is so 90s, time to use your brain and come up with new things to flame with, or you lack the creativity and need other people to copy from
Says the person who's thread topic is a complete copy of half a dozen other threads...
Truly, there is nothing new under the sun.
Edited: So that I'm marginally on topic here, have you considered the point made at the very beginning of the thread that ZOS already did nerf Igneous Shield when its did run afoul of their metric several updates ago? ZOS nerfed it pretty quick when Plague Doctor/Green Pact tanks were absuing it.Edited by VaranisArano on 21 September 2018 20:572 -
Artemiisia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Artemiisia wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Sorcs have an execute, can DKs have one? It's only fair.
Yeah, thought so. Just another salty sorc trying to bring others down because s/he has to l2p now
dont get me started with DKs having the best hard cc ingame, if you wanna compare skills, then we want our rune cage back
You still have rune cage, nobody took it off your bar for you
they nerfed it to the ground, fozzilies should get same treatment if you wanna compare who has an execute or not
I would gladly take a dodgeable fossilize if it meant we got an execute. Then I could finally go back to running infused jewelry instead of bloodthirsty in PvP.
But that's beside the point, igneous and hardened ward are two radically different skills, and you'd have to be an idiot to not see that. If it will help you sleep tonight though, the main shield that DKs have used is getting the same treatment (harness/dampen). It tells a lot about you as a player when you keep asking for other classes to get nerfed.
"My class was overperforming, and required little skill to be good with, so they fixed it, and now I have to git gud but I don't want to, so ZOS plz bring the bar back down by making everyone else comparatively worse!!1!"
no im just tired of seeing my sorc, thats is not rated top in pvp, top in pve, always getting the nerf treatment, so yeah im gonna start making lots of threads from now on, about skills that needs to get killed0 -
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✭✭✭Artemiisia wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Another DK skill nerfed into Oblivion. You want more?
Good grief. I stopped slotting it anyway.
well now you know how we sorcerers feel, when all threads is QQ about our shield
Nah. Not even close to the same thing. LOL0
