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Was Emp Disabled for the Added Campaigns?

  • IxSTALKERxI
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    I think it would be better for the game if there was no achievement, dye, title or costume. Only a health bonus to the faction and the emperor skill line while emperor. That way there is no point in getting emperor unless you intend on pvping with it.
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  • Donny_Vito
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    All Emperorship is the ability to sacrifice real live responsibilities for the sake of playing a game for 12-hours every day, and then sleep for a couple hours to do it all again. Sounds fun.
  • VaranisArano
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    Hmmm well i want the skin from vHRC or something but i know i will never get it lol

    Seriously!?
    Mindless NPCs are more difficult than intelligent human players?
    Only one person in the PVE group gets the achievement necessary for the achievement tied reward, since when?

    There is no comparison.
    Other posters have already explained how there is a complicated set of circumstances to get emperor in which only ONE player can get it at a time as well and is having to compete against skilled/intelligent difficult-to-predict human players rather than scripted simple mindless NPCs that are easy to balance so that everyone has a decent chance of beating them.

    You cannot compare emperor requirements to any PVE reward requirements.
    It's just a ridiculously elitist unfair system for a cosmetic reward that everyone wants and should feel is attainable, but it isn't attainable for most.

    They should just remove all rewards from pvp and make separate pvp gear with pvp stats(like other games have proved works well) so that everyone can compete in pvp from level one on skill alone, such that "git gud" actually means something, and everybody can finally have fun in pvp and play pvp for the pvp so that there is more competition rather than exploiting and pve players stay out of pvp.
    Then we'll all be happy, unless the pvpers are lying about why they pvp and really just want rewards they can keep from other people because "them tasty salty tears" are their reason for existing.
    I don't expect anybody to admit the truth "with a straight face" if at all though. They want to keep their elitist system lording it over others, and they know their true motivations are shameful.

    What?

    Okay, I'm gonna keep this focused on the emperor achievement. Emperor is supposed to be the crowning (heh) achievement of one's PVP career. Its achieved through dedication to your faction: taking and defending keeps, killing the enemy, and repairing walls. It takes the cooperation of your whole faction to get - one person can't claim 6 keeps without the help of allies. Once you have it, you are the Emperor, who defends your alliance and buffs your allies as one of the most powerful warriors on the battlefield.

    Okay, that's a little idealistic, and we all know emperors who don't live up to that. Nonetheless, that's the ideal. For the emperors who actually live up to that and don't just treat it like a box to be checked off their achievement list, Emperorship is pretty incredible.

    Is that elitist? Well, yeah, kinda. I'm never going to be Emperor even though I PVP regularly. I lack the skill and dedication to make a serious emp push. I also have too much respect for the people I know who made and defended their Emperorship to get it relatively cheaply on an event campaign. I also play alongside and against a lot of Former Emperors. Ive fought a lot of Emperors. You'd better believe I know which ones are actually decent PVPers. I know when I'm not in their league.

    IMO, I understand why people get emperor through emp-flipping. Its not that different from the same reasons that lead people to buy carries in Vet Trials for cosmetic awards even though they can't normally complete the trial. But if you want respect from me, you'll PVP at the level of the Former Emperors I know who earned their titles through solid PVP play and supported their faction.

    I get the struggle being a former emp myself. My friend fought for 2 days straight at the Chalamo. Can you really take this game seriously anymore? Between crippling server lag, cheat gate, bad community relations, flat out ignoring game breaking bugs and everything else why is a title on a dead campaign a big deal for you? The fact is the non emp thing on these campaigns was not intended, it was just another failure in a pitiful QA department. Let the PvE people have their chair and dye. It might in the end bring a few pve guilds into under populated campaigns for us to farmlag free

    Oh for sure. ZOS screwed up on the new campaigns and its embarassing that they keep having problems like this. I don't actually have a problem with people earning emp on a low pop campaign as long as they do it honestly.

    I was commenting more on Emp-flipping and the ideal of Emperorship as a PVP achievement as opposed to something you cooperate with enemy players to get so you can check it off your to-do list.
  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    I think it would be better for the game if there was no achievement, dye, title or costume. Only a health bonus to the faction and the emperor skill line while emperor. That way there is no point in getting emperor unless you intend on pvping with it.

    Exactly my point.
    Remove the cosmetic rewards incentive, let everyone have that some other more fair way since everybody could arguably use that and wants it not just PVPers and only the most hardcore no-lifer PVPers.
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