Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

jpl7340 wrote: »

I have 12 characters, 4 of which (currently) do daily writs. My biggest annoyance is the disproportionate amount of fiber writs to leather writs in cloth. Silk is substantially more difficult to farm than leather and thus much more expensive. I would like to be given the choice of using leather or fiber in my daily cloth writ. That would eliminate much of the annoyance.

i actually find this to be the opposite. and surveys give 2/3 cloth and 1/3 leather.

The ratio of daily clothing writs is 2 cloth, 1 leather. It's been that way since daily writs launched. Gear writs are on a 3 writ cycle - for top tier clothing writs they are 1 robe/1 breeches/1 epaulet, 1 hat/1 shoes/1 gloves, and 1 bracer, 1 helmet, 1 arm cops.

Now, surveys technically reflect that ratio, in that there are 4 cloth nodes and 2 leather nodes. However, I quite often get almost as much leather as cloth from these surveys and sometimes more leather. How, well, leather nodes give something like 24-32 without the CP passive, so when it doubles, you can get 48-64 (I don't think I've seen 64, but I have seen 60). On the other hand, cloth only give 18-20 or 36-40 doubled. I've had survey results that were all 18 for cloth, while leather has seen at least one double (or even both). Most recently, I got both leather nodes double, with one being 60, so I got over 100 leather, but then only got around 70-80 cloth.

Now, this is just my experience, but overall for me, I get more doubles from the leather nodes than the cloth nodes in surveys. So, most of the time without any doubling, I'm getting 72-76 cloth and 56-60 leather. That's not the same ratio as the writs.

I have been tracking this same data on the PS4 for about six months and you are correct in your observations. The other unspoken addition to these nodes is that I usually pick up another 20+ leather from the creatures that prowl around the node and along the route I am traveling (I am not "hunting" these are simply in my way), so that works to increase the difference even more.

Just posting to keep this thread near the top on the off chance ZOS are reading it. I totally agree that there is a significant balance problem with clothier crafting writs-at the bottom end, I have built up a huge stack of rawhide while only having dregs of homespun, despite only using those materials to fulfil dailies. At the top end, the same imbalance affects ancestor silk and rubedo leather, although I do admittedly craft with those a fair amount.

The simple answer would be to alter the frequency of the writs so that more rawhide/rubedo is called for, thus reducing the dailies impact on jute and ancestor silk. The mechanics of any other solution gives me a headache, but the situation we have right now cannot be intentional—I have accumulated such staggering amounts of leathers that I could open my personal fetish store.

One other possibility (fx: takes analgesic), would be to reload clothier crafting and to split light and medium armour onto two tabs, much the same as say, weapons and heavy armour are split. This would be more intuitive for new users, and would create a need for two different clothier survey drops, but it wouldn’t eliminate the need for rebalancing the leather vs cloth thing. On the other hand, it would bring clothing into line with woodworking and blacksmithing.

My_Treehawk wrote: »

I'd be happy if they simply removed the leather nodes from the clothier surveys and replaced them with 2 more Cloth nodes. I cannot imagine that anyone really needs a leather node, whereas the cloth nodes are invaluable. That won't fix the imbalance, but at least it would show a step in the right direction and would be easy to implement.

Make the Furrier Trap an open world node like the others and not used for the surveys, if you don't want to waste a nice asset (they are one of the more interesting ones visually), there's no reason to remove it altogether. Besides, it never really made sense to me - I (in RL) have both farmed and trapped, and more often then not (think pests), they are far removed from each other.

When surveys were first introduced, there were no traps. Furrier traps are a more recent inclusion, so I don't think it would be that difficult to remove them and go back to the way they were before. It's doubtful they would do that, but some tweaking of the drop rates would be helpful. As would changing up the writ requirements. If they want to keep on a three-day rotation as with the other gear crafts, then each one could ask for both cloth and leather, or have one cloth, one leather, one cloth/leather.

The OP specifically mentioned clothier writs as one that needs fixing, so we've been talking about the problem with these writs, in that they are unbalanced, 2 cloth vs. 1 leather, and further complicated by the unbalanced nature of the surveys.