Daedric Trickery?

Yubarius · July 2018

PLEASE somebody tell me if the buffs stay on if you proc it on one bar, and the other bar doesn't have the 5 pieces.

Sky_WK · July 2018

Yes

griffkhalifa · July 2018

Yubarius wrote: »

PLEASE somebody tell me if the buffs stay on if you proc it on one bar, and the other bar doesn't have the 5 pieces.

Don't know for sure but I would assume if you proc the buff on front bar then switch to back bar the buff will stay active but you just won't proc another buff until you switch back to the front bar.

DeadlyPhoenix · July 2018

Anytime you proc a backbar buff and switch to main bar, the backbar buff stays active. You just have to switch back to rebuff.

Like maelstrom staff. You slot it on backbar with elemental blockade, put blockade down, switch to front bar and even though it's not a maelstrom staff, you still benefit from the bonus damage since the ability was cast on the bar with maelstrom.

Hope that helps.

jaws343 · July 2018

Yes they stay on. But this set is the most annoying set to run in this game. I ran it while leveling a character and will never run it again. Some of the buffs are combat related buffs, so when they apply to your character you are barred from any interactions that being in combat would prevent for the duration of the buff. So, you cannot mount, loot chests/nodes, enter doors, etc.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

Once the set procs, it runs it's full course. You don't have to maintain it on the active bar.

jaws343 wrote: »

Yes they stay on. But this set is the most annoying set to run in this game. I ran it while leveling a character and will never run it again. Some of the buffs are combat related buffs, so when they apply to your character you are barred from any interactions that being in combat would prevent for the duration of the buff. So, you cannot mount, loot chests/nodes, enter doors, etc.

@jaws343 The proc is completely unrelated to whether or not you remain in combat. That is what is preventing your interactions, not the buff proc itself.

Combat is required to proc the set, and the buff only lasts 10 seconds at most. Pretty sure it take a minimum of 5 to come out of combat regardless.

Thing to bear in mind with this set it that you basically get the minor buff equivalent (Major buff is 2x minor, but it's only up 50% of the time.) While there are really no bad procs, just understand that it's RNG with what you get at a given time.

jaws343 · July 2018

The problem is the proc delays non-combat actions outside of combat. If you kill a wolf immediately you sometimes have to wait the whole 10 seconds of the proc to remove yourself from combat and interact with things. And if you are attacking with a single target ability with zero dots or aoe's up and no procs from any other set, you leave combat immediately after an enemy is killed. This set forces an extension of that time.

The set will also dismount you sometimes if you enter combat while on horseback, even if you have a full horse stamina meter.

So yes, I understand that the proc relies on combat to go off, but the proc also keeps you in combat for the entire duration. In this other thread from February, it was pointed out that the Major Heroism buff is the one that is preventing you from leaving combat.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/393581/daedric-trickery-bugged-unusable

And this also procs if you are in a group and someone in your group enters combat, since it also pulls you into combat.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

I've run the set since February (date of the above posted thread) and never experienced any of these issues.

Equally, if it's only Heroism that's preventing it, you're looking at a 20% chance of the bug, at most.

Unless you're racing someone to a chest, what is so dire that 10-20 seconds is messing you up?

Yubarius · July 2018

jaws343 wrote: »

Yes they stay on. But this set is the most annoying set to run in this game. I ran it while leveling a character and will never run it again. Some of the buffs are combat related buffs, so when they apply to your character you are barred from any interactions that being in combat would prevent for the duration of the buff. So, you cannot mount, loot chests/nodes, enter doors, etc.

I plan on using it in pvp so I have no issue with that

exeeter702 · July 2018

There is an important element that people are ommiting here, when the set came out, i tested it myself. If you oroc it on back bar then switch to front bar, the buff remains ofc. but the 20 second timer doesnt remain. Badically what i was experiencing at the time was i would proc the buff, then when it was about to expire i would bar swap to the set and i noticed it took 20 seconds before a new buff apeared, this was all in combat mind you. If you barswap while one of the trickery buffs is active, the CD timer resets.

I dont know if this has changed but that was a complete deal breaker for me.

Yubarius · July 2018

exeeter702 wrote: »

There is an important element that people are ommiting here, when the set came out, i tested it myself. If you oroc it on back bar then switch to front bar, the buff remains ofc. but the 20 second timer doesnt remain. Badically what i was experiencing at the time was i would proc the buff, then when it was about to expire i would bar swap to the set and i noticed it took 20 seconds before a new buff apeared, this was all in combat mind you. If you barswap while one of the trickery buffs is active, the CD timer resets.

I dont know if this has changed but that was a complete deal breaker for me.

Are you serious? If that's the case then absoultely

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