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Do you need expansion to transmute jewelry?

MalakithAlamahdi
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Or do you just need it to craft it?
  • olsborg
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    To learn the new traits you need to use jewlery crafting station. Therefore you also need the chapter.

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  • Reverb
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    You cannot use jewelry crafting stations unless you own Summerset. That means you can't research jewelry traits, therefore can not transmute jewelry, without buying the expansion.
    Edited by Reverb on 6 May 2018 17:04
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  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Ah yea, that makes sense. That's lame.
  • Waffennacht
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    Ah yea, that makes sense. That's lame.

    I dunno how it works exactly - but maybe someone can buy the jewelry crafting station and put in their house for you to use?
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  • Darlon
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    Ah yea, that makes sense. That's lame.

    I dunno how it works exactly - but maybe someone can buy the jewelry crafting station and put in their house for you to use?

    No. If you don't have the expansion, you are not able to interact with the station...

    Station availability is not the problem here, every single zone has multiple jewelry stations, but you need Summerset to use them...
  • ZOS_Edward
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    Hi @MalakithAlamahdi,

    As the others have stated, you can't access Jewelry Crafting without the Summerset Chapter. You can still acquire the new jewelry items from others and harvest the new jewelry resource nodes though.

    You can find all you need to know about Jewelry Crafting in this article:

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26357
    Staff Post
  • Waffennacht
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    Ty @Darlon

    Gees... What's the cheapest I can get Summerset for on Xbox?
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  • Olen_Mikko
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    What about having a jewelry crafting station in someone's house? Like Transmute station before?
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  • Marabornwingrion
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    Olen_Mikko wrote: »
    What about having a jewelry crafting station in someone's house? Like Transmute station before?

    You won't be able to use it if you didn't buy the chapter
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Ah yea, that makes sense. That's lame.

    How is it lame?

    Are you on a misguided notion that new content should be free??
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Ah yea, that makes sense. That's lame.

    How is it lame?

    Are you on a misguided notion that new content should be free??

    No. But locking something behind a paywall that has a big effect on builds is just something I don't like. I'm aware you can trade crafted items but if you can transmute sets that are bound on pickup it'll still give you an advantage as far as build diversity go's. The content that you pay for should've been a zone, quests, trails and dungeons imo. I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.

    Because you aren’t able to transmute three pieces of BOP jewelry to your desired trait, that is affecting “the core game as a whole”?

    Really?
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.

    Because you aren’t able to transmute three pieces of BOP jewelry to your desired trait, that is affecting “the core game as a whole”?

    Really?

    Yes, since traits matter in end game content and PvP.
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on 6 May 2018 19:17
  • Drakkdjinn
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    Yes, you have the shell out the price of a new game for a crafting mechanic that would come in the base game of any other MMO; welcome to ZoS Gaming.
  • Waffennacht
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    I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.

    Because you aren’t able to transmute three pieces of BOP jewelry to your desired trait, that is affecting “the core game as a whole”?

    Really?

    Well that and research. You can't do any research, meaning it directly affects your writ drops.

    It does bug me your character (if you can't buy immediately) the time it takes you to own the product + the in game research time.
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  • majulook
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    Well look on the bright side, all jewelry that you get from drops / chests after Summerset arrives will be worth a lot more.

    I predict that a simple green ring of stamina reduction will go for about 1000g as everyone who has Summerset will be trying to get the JC skill line up as fast as they can.
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  • pdebie64b16_ESO
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    Still alot of players dont understand MMO's, nothing is for free.
  • Aliyavana
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    Drakkdjinn wrote: »
    Yes, you have the shell out the price of a new game for a crafting mechanic that would come in the base game of any other MMO; welcome to ZoS Gaming.

    Welcome to mmos where major features are locked in a expansion catwalk. It's the standard so pay up
  • Donari
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    I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.

    Because you aren’t able to transmute three pieces of BOP jewelry to your desired trait, that is affecting “the core game as a whole”?

    Really?

    Yes, since traits matter in end game content and PvP.

    Then perhaps you can pay a crafter to make you the desired trait jewelry, once crafters have put in the time and resources it takes (or cash) to max out their skills. Since the jewelry made will be tradeable. And then you don't pay one cent real money, just the gold you've earned playing the parts of the game you've bought.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Donari wrote: »
    I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.

    Because you aren’t able to transmute three pieces of BOP jewelry to your desired trait, that is affecting “the core game as a whole”?

    Really?

    Yes, since traits matter in end game content and PvP.

    Then perhaps you can pay a crafter to make you the desired trait jewelry, once crafters have put in the time and resources it takes (or cash) to max out their skills. Since the jewelry made will be tradeable. And then you don't pay one cent real money, just the gold you've earned playing the parts of the game you've bought.

    It's good that you can trade rings and neck pieces that you craft, but you can't transmute the bind on pickup stuff if you don't own the expantion. Which is still the majority of the gear used. That's the only thing I find a bit dissapointing.
  • WembleyOTG
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    my comment was already stated. Edited for removal
    Edited by WembleyOTG on 7 May 2018 01:17
  • Harrdarrzarr
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    There probably still is time to get the pre-purchase edition, if you have decided to buy the expansion. It has some nice extra's.
  • orim
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    i have nothing against DLC but "chapter" is just a scam to squeeze ppls money and spit to face of ppl who are eso+ i have 5k crowns there and want things that matter but guess what i cant buy it for crowns. Also after research u can find keys for 20$ and Z0$ ask double for same thing.
    To topic yes wanted to just transmute some "heavy" set to light/medium but without the trait learned you cant do it so that is lame
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  • Harrdarrzarr
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    orim wrote: »
    i have nothing against DLC but "chapter" is just a scam to squeeze ppls money and spit to face of ppl who are eso+ i have 5k crowns there and want things that matter but guess what i cant buy it for crowns. Also after research u can find keys for 20$ and Z0$ ask double for same thing.
    To topic yes wanted to just transmute some "heavy" set to light/medium but without the trait learned you cant do it so that is lame

    It is not possible to transmute the weight of a set.
  • jcm2606
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    Donari wrote: »
    I own all dlc and expansions so far, but I simply don't like it when things that effect the core game as a whole gets put behind a paywall in a b2p game.

    Because you aren’t able to transmute three pieces of BOP jewelry to your desired trait, that is affecting “the core game as a whole”?

    Really?

    Yes, since traits matter in end game content and PvP.

    Then perhaps you can pay a crafter to make you the desired trait jewelry, once crafters have put in the time and resources it takes (or cash) to max out their skills. Since the jewelry made will be tradeable. And then you don't pay one cent real money, just the gold you've earned playing the parts of the game you've bought.

    That only works for crafted pieces. Bind on Pickup cannot be traded, so you can't just give it to a friend and have them transmute it. You also cannot research traits without the expansion, so a friend can't just give you a piece in x trait for you to research. And if you're using Bind on Equip pieces, or if Bind on Pickup could be traded, if jewelry crafting functions in any way like other crafting lines, transmutation will bind the item to your account, so it will be bound to your friend the moment they transmute it.

    Really *** IMO, and my own $0.02 is it should be given the transmute station treatment, where if you place a station in a home, it is open for all to use, regardless of whether they have the expansion or not. That way it makes it accessible to everyone, but still incentivises players to purchase the expansion in order to craft their own jewelry in crafted sets.

    EDIT: Grammar's hard, mmk.
    Edited by jcm2606 on 7 May 2018 12:45
  • Cuthceol
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    orim wrote: »
    i have nothing against DLC but "chapter" is just a scam to squeeze ppls money and spit to face of ppl who are eso+ i have 5k crowns there and want things that matter but guess what i cant buy it for crowns. Also after research u can find keys for 20$ and Z0$ ask double for same thing.
    To topic yes wanted to just transmute some "heavy" set to light/medium but without the trait learned you cant do it so that is lame

    It is not possible to transmute the weight of a set.

    by "heavy" I'm understanding they mean "healthy" to "robust" or "arcane" :)
  • Agalloch
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    Wait for an year..and the expansion will be free like Morrowind when the Summerset will launch.
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