Maintenance for the week of February 23:
• NA megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
• ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
We will be performing maintenance on the PTS on Monday at 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC).

Any plans to nerf Argonian racial passives?

  • clocksstoppe
    clocksstoppe
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah we can't have people play anything other than redguard and altmer, those are the only races allowed to exist in this game
  • Alamakot
    Alamakot
    ✭✭✭
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    In these four years, we've been proud to hit some big-time milestones, including 10 million players last year. That said, the ESO community has hit some pretty amazing milestones of their own. Check out these incredible in-game statistics from PC/Mac launch until today:

    Total number of monsters killed: 15,881,472,493
    Total number of players killed: 1,346,033,201
    Total number of Soul Gems used: 1,183,836,570
    Total number of quests completed: 2,064,266,404
    Total number of items crafted: 7,415,834,454
    Total number of achievements earned: 1,145,234,018
    And, finally, here's some additional numbers that might surprise:

    Most popular race: High Elf (14.98% of all characters)
    Most popular Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (36.33% of all characters)
    Most PvP Kills by Alliance: Ebonheart Pact (122,490,253 kills)
    Highest unpaid bounty: 248,655,731 gold
    Highest paid bounty: 362,324 gold

    Are you asking to nerf the non-major race ?

    Nerf Ebonheart Pact ;)
  • exeeter702
    exeeter702
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Knowing zos.....

    "Reduced the amount of stamina, magicka and health restored to 6% down from 12% of the Amphibious passive (rank 3)"

    "This passive was overperforming in conjunction with the newley added infused trait on jewelry with Glyph of Potion Speed"

    9Vuuri3.jpg
    Edited by exeeter702 on 22 April 2018 00:19
  • Micah_Bayer
    Micah_Bayer
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Erraln wrote: »
    Having a strong reason to roll a race is a positive thing. They don't have offense, they don't have the max stat totals other races can get. Let them have their pots :smile:

    They can go full offensive because they don't have to worry about sustain.
  • Banana
    Banana
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lets hope. Theres to many. We need a cull.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
    kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Erraln wrote: »
    Having a strong reason to roll a race is a positive thing. They don't have offense, they don't have the max stat totals other races can get. Let them have their pots :smile:

    They can go full offensive because they don't have to worry about sustain.

    You know you are right being stuck without a buff to potions makes Altmer’s +10% magic +9% magic regen and +4 elemental danger useless. No way you can build both sustain and damage with stats like that.

    Let’s not forget my brothers (I’m black IRL) the Redguard +10% stamina +9% stamina regen and melee attacks restore 792 stamina no sustain here.

    Bosmer have +21% stamina regen and +6% stamina no sustain buffs here I guess.

    Just because players are power hungry and hate slot any recovery sets or even enchantments to help sustain is no one fault but theirs. If all of your recovery is base + food/drink + race you don’t get to complain about sustain. Change a jewelry enchantment wear a sustain set. Sure you will not be balls to the wall on DPS but you will not need to countdown the seconds till your next potion is ready.

    With better recovery and higher max stats sustain should not be a problem. I remember when a guy way back in the day complained that his 70K health Blazing Shield Templar had little magic and stamina and everyone who like well yeah you put anything to health that’s what happens. I miss the days when players understood and excepted that going full on in one thing made you suck at something else. That Templar was in the minority now he’s every other player. We want all the damage and sustain.
    Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
    Chaos Death-Scale: Shadow Knight
    Tanks-With-Sap-Essence: Dark Mage
    Dark Brotherhood Listener: Blade of Argonia
    Chaos Dragon-Scale: Draconic Shield Master
    Chaos Light-Scale: Marsh Paladin
    Chaos Lightning-Scale: Daedric Master
    Hurricane Chaos: Storm Archer
    Bask-In-My-Light: Warrior of The Light
    Forged-In-Dragon-Fire: Pyro Mage
    Guardian of The Hist: Light Mender
    Chaos of Black Marsh: Master of The Burning Sword
    Star of Chaos: Frost Blade Champion
    Chaos-Lightning-Tower: Lightning Shield Master

    For the King of Argonia
    May Sithis hold back his Void
  • Silver_Strider
    Silver_Strider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Knowing zos.....

    "Reduced the amount of stamina, magicka and health restored to 6% down from 12% of the Amphibious passive (rank 3)"

    "This passive was overperforming in conjunction with the newley added infused trait on jewelry with Glyph of Potion Speed"

    Hasn't been 12% since One Tamriel, where it became a flat value on all 3 stats, which is why its currently one of the best sustain passives in the game. Just converting it back to a % would most likely stop all the complaining about Argonians truthfully.
    Edited by Silver_Strider on 22 April 2018 15:12
    Argonian forever
  • Mystrius_Archaion
    Mystrius_Archaion
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Godzilla58 wrote: »
    Godzilla58 wrote: »
    What is the problem directly with them?

    You don't think the high resistance to Poison and Disease is too strong? Plus the huge bonus to resources from consumed potions. Seems to me that it's too great an advantage over other race choices. Especially in PVP. I'm not trying to be sensational. I genuinely think it's too strong. That's my opinion.

    May be because I am a Argonian main :smile:

    hahahahaha
    I had to "awesome" that.

    ....and nobody else got it. :o
  • Mystrius_Archaion
    Mystrius_Archaion
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Knowing zos.....

    "Reduced the amount of stamina, magicka and health restored to 6% down from 12% of the Amphibious passive (rank 3)"

    "This passive was overperforming in conjunction with the newley added infused trait on jewelry with Glyph of Potion Speed"

    There is a reason the person who started it did so in the PTS forum. They can't seem to hit the bulls-eye on the real cause of the problem with potions, so they blame the lizards.
    Sounds like either generic speciesism or erectile disfunction with how the Argonians always say "I erect the spine of..." making him envious. :p
  • Itzmichi
    Itzmichi
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Give the fugly argonians some love, you can create one anytime you want, so it's your choice if you skipping their racial bonuses or not.
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  • Mystrius_Archaion
    Mystrius_Archaion
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Itsmichi wrote: »
    Give the fugly argonians some love, you can create one anytime you want, so it's your choice if you skipping their racial bonuses or not.

    I honestly would be happiest if racial bonuses were removed entirely or everyone could pick whatever they wanted. Then we would have people choose the race they want for looks.
    I choose for looks anyway, but it would be nice to get the stats I want most also.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
    kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    So Argonian has unlimited sustain.
    You sacrifice all your damage to do so
    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Knowing zos.....

    "Reduced the amount of stamina, magicka and health restored to 6% down from 12% of the Amphibious passive (rank 3)"

    "This passive was overperforming in conjunction with the newley added infused trait on jewelry with Glyph of Potion Speed"

    9Vuuri3.jpg

    Hasn't been 12% since One Tamriel, where it became a flat value on all 3 stats, which is why its currently one of the best sustain passives in the game. Just converting it back to a % would most likely stop all the complaining about Argonians truthfully.

    Honest I would take this over ZoS nerfing all our passives into nothingness the normal way ZoS balances.
    Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
    Chaos Death-Scale: Shadow Knight
    Tanks-With-Sap-Essence: Dark Mage
    Dark Brotherhood Listener: Blade of Argonia
    Chaos Dragon-Scale: Draconic Shield Master
    Chaos Light-Scale: Marsh Paladin
    Chaos Lightning-Scale: Daedric Master
    Hurricane Chaos: Storm Archer
    Bask-In-My-Light: Warrior of The Light
    Forged-In-Dragon-Fire: Pyro Mage
    Guardian of The Hist: Light Mender
    Chaos of Black Marsh: Master of The Burning Sword
    Star of Chaos: Frost Blade Champion
    Chaos-Lightning-Tower: Lightning Shield Master

    For the King of Argonia
    May Sithis hold back his Void
  • SwampRaider
    SwampRaider
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tasear wrote: »
    For min max purposes, my PvP guild really wants our healers (Templars) to race change to argonian. The utility and Passive work well.

    O.o there's min and Max in pvp? What difference can race of healer make in pvp?

    Pvp: min max races for Ball Group Tactics(designed for 16 vs 40+ zergs)
    Stam sorc support: orc
    Stam warden AOE dps: redguard
    Templar healer(argonian)
    Mag NB bomber: dark elf
    Mag sorc support: high elf
    Mag warden support/defiler: argonian
    Mag DK support/defiler: argonian






    Character: Eros, Eros I I, The Paw of Woe
    Class: Templar Healer/MagWarden/ Stam Sorc
    Alliance: DC
    Campaign: Vivec (pc/na)
    Guardians of Daggerfall
  • ascan7
    ascan7
    ✭✭✭
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Most popular race: High Elf (14.98% of all characters)

    Obviously that's not enough, we need Altmer to be BiS for healer and PvP also, like it was before.
  • FearlessOne_2014
    FearlessOne_2014
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cously wrote: »
    I never thought I'd see a thread asking for Argonians to be nerfed. They need a reason to be played after all since they are ugly af.

    What are you talking about. Lizards can look pimp too.

    fLvn9VV.png
  • VaxtinTheWolf
    VaxtinTheWolf
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    So much Ebonheart Pact.
    || AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
    || DC - Ja'Kiro Feral-Heart Lv50 Khajiit Dragonknight (Damage) || EP - VaxtinTheWolf Lv50 Redguard Templar (Tank) || AD - Velik Iranis Lv50 Dark Elf Sorcerer (Tank ) ||
    || EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||
    PC - North American Server (Champion 1300+)
  • FearlessOne_2014
    FearlessOne_2014
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    So much Ebonheart Pact.

    The only good AD or DC is a dead AD and DC.

    EP 4 LYFE 4 LYFE!

    BLOOD FOR THE PACT! ARRGH!
  • Mystrius_Archaion
    Mystrius_Archaion
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    So much Ebonheart Pact.

    The only good AD or DC is a dead AD and DC.

    EP 4 LYFE 4 LYFE!

    BLOOD FOR THE PACT! ARRGH!

    Aneurysm?
    Guess we don't have to worry about them. They'll kill themselves off with all their hyped up blood pressure from yelling a lot.
    Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on 22 April 2018 16:14
Sign In or Register to comment.