WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Im hope pts update has all the balance stuff (step 1 of course) in it..

Don't they usually do most of the balancing in the last two patches?

Seraphayel wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Im hope pts update has all the balance stuff (step 1 of course) in it..

Don't they usually do most of the balancing in the last two patches?

They did almost no balancing in the last patches. Summerset will bring the needed class changes (hopefully).

Carbonised wrote: »

NDA lifted in just a few hours, and people who attended the sneak peek have already prepared their reports.

PTS update tomorrow as well.

Just colour me officially effing hyped.

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

The NDA is not lifted until 10am US Time and 3pm UK time.

Did someone scratch a record round here ...?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

What time does it end?

Torbschka wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

The NDA is not lifted until 10am US Time and 3pm UK time.

Did someone scratch a record round here ...?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

What time does it end?

Exactly 4 and a half minutes later. So read quickly!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Where will u post ur link? ^^

starkerealm wrote: »

Yamenstein wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Yamenstein wrote: »

neverwalk wrote: »

Jewelery crafting, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild SHOULD BE part of base game.

They should make the game free and not add anything else. I mean what's the point ? Make a half arsed game and then leave it like that. Pfft.

You don't get stuff for free. Pay up if you want new content.

Yes. I agree.

My sarcasm must not have worked.

Yeah, text sarcasm can be very hard to detect unless you intentionally annotate it. It's all about tone of voice and delivery, which gets lost in text more often than not.

Also, it's not like you're expressing an unheard of opinion.

I mean, MMOs are a fantastic genre (when the games work). It's one of the only places in the industry where you'll find an entire genre that lives on the developers working to make it better over time. A bad game can release, sell well on a name, and then quietly shuffle off, while still being a success, but a bad MMO can't.

That means, money has to come for development from somewhere, and that requires a post-launch business model. But, that plays havoc with expectations for a lot of people, because they're used to games being a, "you buy it, you have it," kind of a setup, which lead to very distorted expectations when you get to MMOs. Hell, I avoided the entire genre for years because of the subscription model, and only got in on games that started with LTS services. In fact, I think ESO is only the second MMO I've ever played where I actually pay the subscription fee on a regular basis.

But, yeah, sarcasm... no harm no foul. On a long enough timescale, I could certainly get behind some of the early DLCs getting rolled into the base game content, simply to keep new players from feeling too intimidated on the way into the store. But, at the same time, I'd kinda rather Stugga just stop chasing me down every time I stick my nose in Vulkhel Guard.

rteezy wrote: »

was this a "sponsored" post?

I understand the cynicism coming out in this thread. To an extent, I've shared it at one time or another. Anyone who's been around long enough should remember that I've gotten extremely salty about a couple bugs that hit me hard over the years (specifically gear deterioration near launch, and the bar swap delay with Dragon Bones). At the time, it really felt like I was getting directly screwed over.

I've also played MMOs where developers were antagonistic or derisive towards the community. Having actually talked, at length with the people on staff, I really do not see that here.

If you think that's, "bought and paid for," because we were wined and dined, I gotta say, I value my personal integrity a bit more than that.

Okay, some personal background for a second. I'm in my mid-30s. I have a career. If @Nestor wants to tell you his situation he's entirely welcome to. While I'm not raking in the bucks, getting some free stuff wouldn't really sway my position. This is more significant because, many of us rely on our integrity to sell the products we create. Many of the people who went were content creators of one stripe or another. While both dinners were amazing, they're not worth chucking my career over.

There's a real fundamental disconnect that can occur, particularly based on where you are in life. When you're younger (I'm not putting an age on this, because age and youth are not, always, entirely synonymous), gifts carry far more weight, and have a far greater influence on you. As you get older, gifts become a far more complex system. Now, I wouldn't blame anyone for being jealous at all. That's a natural reaction, and I certainly don't blame anyone for getting suspicious because they think their reaction would be different if placed in that situation.

If you're in the position of saying, "hey, if they gave me cool stuff, I'd be far more likely to do what they say," that's fine. That's where you are. However, personally, I'm well past that point in my life. The trip was amazing, really. But, it wasn't the stuff, or the trip itself, that affected my opinions, it was the people I met, and was interacting with. That includes people like Rich, Gina, Jeremy, Rob, and Wrobel. There's a cliche about people being passionate about their job, but I do believe they really are committed to making the game the best it can be.

JD2013 wrote: »

See, I am really curious about this NDA.

We know there's a zone - Summerset
We know there's another possible zone - Artaeum
We know there's jewellery crafting
We know there's a trial.

They likely won't spoil the story. The most we will probably get is a bit of info about the new skills and jewellery.

Minno wrote: »

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Nestor wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Lol you’re so funny.

You get the click bait award tho

I said NDA safe, what did you expect?

However I wish I could tell you why it's going to be great. Tuesday.

I dare you to break nda ...don’t tho I’m just joking
I have a serious question no one in here will ask.

-How nice are the bathrooms?
-Do they have a cafe?
-what’s the food menu?
-Do they have ergonomic desks and chairs?
-Eyestrain monitors?
-Casual dress code?

Typical office building bathrooms.
They have cafe.
Decent menu, good coffee
Nice work spaces, multi monitor displays, lots of gaming swag all over the place, even for other games.
Very casual dress code.

I am currently in Wroebels car on the way out to dinner.

Get wrobel drunk! I'll contribute to the fund.

Bevik wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

See, I am really curious about this NDA.

We know there's a zone - Summerset
We know there's another possible zone - Artaeum
We know there's jewellery crafting
We know there's a trial.

They likely won't spoil the story. The most we will probably get is a bit of info about the new skills and jewellery.

And they even said in the announcement stream that they have surprises for us. I'm actually really curious about them.