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To many opened chests
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Stinkyremy✭✭✭✭✭What type of noob doesn't auto loot.
The time it takes to sift through all the inventory in chests, bodies ect, compared to the time it takes, and money you get from vendoring or deconning trash glyphs and gear for mats. They are wasting time and missing out on money.
Auto looting everything and selling all the trash and trash armour (because I have enough mats) nets me on average 3-4k per dungeon run. I decon every glyph, again netting me decent runes like repora, makderi. All the money adds up.
These guys are obviously just farming for bouyant motifs.
I can't even imagine they sell that much, most people who have cash to waste buying bouyant motifs would have the motif already.
You would have to be very stupid to pay 4-5mil for a motif.
Even if they do sell, they wont be selling like hot cakes. There are more and better profit-time/effort schemes.
Edited by Stinkyremy on 10 March 2018 17:572 -
Diminish✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »I'll tell you what. You convince ZoS to give me a bottomless bag for junk from chests and I'll pick them all clean. Until then, no, I don't feel like wasting time picking through 200 items just to delete/vendor then countless garbage found in most chests. The comments in this thread are ridiculous... Loot penalties, no chest to spawn until the one you didn't fully loot despawns, etc. You guys are ridiculous. The chests respawn on a timer; fully looted or not.
Choose weapons -sell junk to vendor
Choose Apparel -sell junk to vendor
Every so often, head to an enchanter and decon glyphs for nice runes to sell.
It takes like 30 seconds. At most, a minute. I should know, I do it regularly and make a fair bit of extra gold from it. Especially from the rhinestones.
Or...
Leave junk weapons
Leave junk apparel
Leave junk glyphs
Move onto next chest
I don't have the inventory space to collect all the garbage diluting chest loot pools or want to waste even more time 'doing chest runs' than I already do with the terrible RNG in this game; every second I can save, I am going to save. The chests respawn rather fully looted or not. The only difference is, if I don't loot a chest fully others can see the chest as opened rather than not at all. Either way, it will respawn. So basically most of you are complaining about wasting time running up to a chest only to find it has already been looted, and the useless junk left behind. Well guess what, you waste even more time by looting the junk and deconstructing/selling it to a vendor. This thread is pointless.Edited by Diminish on 10 March 2018 17:595 -
TarrNokk✭✭✭✭Narvuntien wrote: »I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.
If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables
... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.
Players on PC can install addon "Dustman". I configured it that I can auto loot everything but worthless and trash is destroyed right after looting it. Same goes for stolen items where all white items are destroyed so I have always enough room for green and blue...0 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And honestly guys of the d00che things people do in this game this is nothing.
Compared to alliance switching, keep flipping wrecking of Emp.and complete lack of honour in Cyridiil (that many justify here and on discord) someone leaving a carrot behind in a hurry is genuinely the least 'toxic'Xbox One | EU | EP
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DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And honestly guys of the d00che things people do in this game this is nothing.
Compared to alliance switching, keep flipping wrecking of Emp.and complete lack of honour in Cyridiil (that many justify here and on discord) someone leaving a carrot behind in a hurry is genuinely the least 'toxic'
By direct comparison, yup. Some of us, though, don't PvP so (no snark meant here) it's moot (although those are craptacular things to do, indeed).
In my warm, fuzzy world (hah) people just would give a little thought and consideration to those around them. In the cases you mention in PvP, to me, those would render any "victory" void. But usually those who indulge in that sort of stuff just don't care.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake1 -
I vastly prefer finding only bait, furnishing mats, or green and blue generic items that have been left behind over finding nothing at all. These items that the person before me didn’t want are useful to me in my game. The respawn timer is not changed by partial looting.
Getting just one Ta out of a node is annoying, but I would rather find that than advocate micromanaging the way another player chooses to loot. If gold farmers want to slow each other down with their little tricks, I don’t care at all.
To me the real toxic behavior is one player trying to control another.3 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I'll tell you what. You convince ZoS to give me a bottomless bag for junk from chests and I'll pick them all clean. Until then, no, I don't feel like wasting time picking through 200 items just to delete/vendor then countless garbage found in most chests. The comments in this thread are ridiculous... Loot penalties, no chest to spawn until the one you didn't fully loot despawns, etc. You guys are ridiculous. The chests respawn on a timer; fully looted or not.
Choose weapons -sell junk to vendor
Choose Apparel -sell junk to vendor
Every so often, head to an enchanter and decon glyphs for nice runes to sell.
It takes like 30 seconds. At most, a minute. I should know, I do it regularly and make a fair bit of extra gold from it. Especially from the rhinestones.
Or...
Leave junk weapons
Leave junk apparel
Leave junk glyphs
Move onto next chest
I don't have the inventory space to collect all the garbage diluting chest loot pools or want to waste even more time 'doing chest runs' than I already do with the terrible RNG in this game; every second I can save, I am going to save. The chests respawn rather fully looted or not. The only difference is, if I don't loot a chest fully others can see the chest as opened rather than not at all. Either way, it will respawn. So basically most of you are complaining about wasting time running up to a chest only to find it has already been looted, and the useless junk left behind. Well guess what, you waste even more time by looting the junk and deconstructing/selling it to a vendor. This thread is pointless.
If nodes respawn the same time regardless, I'll give you a pass.
Regardless, this is a product of the disaster that is inventory management in this game. Even if I sub to make it bearable for me, there is still dealing with people behaving certain ways because of inventory issues.2 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭And honestly guys of the d00che things people do in this game this is nothing.
Compared to alliance switching, keep flipping wrecking of Emp.and complete lack of honour in Cyridiil (that many justify here and on discord) someone leaving a carrot behind in a hurry is genuinely the least 'toxic'
You’re right. There’s so much toxic BS in PVP. Too much to list.
This one issue disappoints me in the sense, people somehow don’t understand that other players are impacted by their inconsiderate and selfish behavior.1 -
Diminish✭✭✭✭✭
✭LadyAstrum wrote: »Narvuntien wrote: »I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.
If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables
... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.
Humans like you are what makes playing with other humans horrible sometimes.
Just wow. So human A just wants to play a computer game as he wants. And Human B insults him IRL and feels justified.....
You must be one of those players who does this very thing.
I dislike inconsiderate players, and knowingly leaving trash is inconsiderate. I take everything, and disgard what I don't want. It's really not that hard to do.
What you call "trash" may not be trash to someone else. If I loot a chest and it doesn't have anything I am particularly interested in looting, and I just take the gold, that must mean I am inconsiderate for leaving behind everything else (albeit the gold) as if the chest was not even opened yet. If anything, I saved you and whoever else the time of picking the lock. If I decide to take everything but the empty soul gem, guess what, this is still not "inconsiderate" considering rather I took that or not, the chest is still going to respawn.
... oh wait, what people are really getting mad about in this thread is that they saw a chest, got their hopes up it was a shiny new BA motif or whatever they are pillaging chests for in the first place, only to find out someone already opened it... what an inconsiderate *******; how dare them PLAY THE GAME and not try to cater to the likes of the other 90845690486 people playing the same game (an impossible feat if I may add).1 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »And honestly guys of the d00che things people do in this game this is nothing.
Compared to alliance switching, keep flipping wrecking of Emp.and complete lack of honour in Cyridiil (that many justify here and on discord) someone leaving a carrot behind in a hurry is genuinely the least 'toxic'
You’re right. There’s so much toxic BS in PVP. Too much to list.
This one issue disappoints me in the sense, people somehow don’t understand that other players are impacted by their inconsiderate and selfish behavior.
Or worse, they simply don't care.
I am not that fussed about it from a practical POV as I sell everything but it's indicative of a behaviour that is pretty greedy and immature, and, well, sad. Oh well, takes all kinds, I guess.
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake1 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭And honestly guys of the d00che things people do in this game this is nothing.
Compared to alliance switching, keep flipping wrecking of Emp.and complete lack of honour in Cyridiil (that many justify here and on discord) someone leaving a carrot behind in a hurry is genuinely the least 'toxic'
Says a non chest farmer of course.0 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I still fondly remember beta, when I would begin a character at an off-peak hour so that I could scrounge up some lockpicks and gear from the, at that point in time, non-instanced containers.
So I understand the frustration. But there are, for instance, over 150 chest spawn locations in Vvardenfell so even seeing 10 looted chests is barely 7% of the total. If you're meant to find a Bouncing Armchair motif on that trip, you'll find it.
It seems to me the moral high ground would be to not pick locked chests that don't belong to you, not bashing other players for unlocking them before you. A professional courtesy system has not been established for any game profession, and suggesting some sort of punishment mechanic is just a hot take on a non-issue.signing off2 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.
The respawn timer starts the moment the chest is opened/unlocked.
It doesn't matter if you empty it or not, it will respawn just the same.
Edited by SirAndy on 10 March 2018 19:065 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.
The respawn timer starts the moment the chest is opened/unlocked.
It doesn't matter if you empty it or not, it will respawn just the same.
True but its still toxic to leave opened chests2 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Every time I encounter this I just smile because some sucker doesn’t have auto loot turned on0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭After this thread I'm not sure who is more salty: a PvPer who just got zerged or a chest farmer who just found a bunch of leftovers in a chest...0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.
The respawn timer starts the moment the chest is opened/unlocked.
It doesn't matter if you empty it or not, it will respawn just the same.
The question isn't whether or not it will respawn. Its whether or not it respawn before some other player spots it, runs up thinking they got lucky and they'll get the xp, gold, and potentially good loot inside only to find out that they get no xp, probably no gold, and the junk you left behind.2 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People need to get over it. I'm not wasting my personal time on ungrateful -people- who expect the game handed to them on a silver platter, and especially not those who expect me to do it.
My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too. You all feel your time is more important than others', and thats the nature of the world. Games are inherently PVP, any way you look at it, and I will look out for myself and my circle first.
I expect each and every one of you to do the same.
The person who got to the chest first can do whatever they'd like with it, and if you don't like that, tough. You should have gotten to it first.
Serious first world problems that arent really problems, self entitlement is running rampant.
And for the people arguing this is analogous to littering or leaving your trash at the table, etc etc, I want you to take a long, hard look at yourselves and really pick apart exactly why you indulge in courtesies. You do it because it benefits you, whether socially so you stay in the staff's good graces (same for treating them with respect, and them to you), or because you haven't realized there's more to being a good, considerate person than just that.
Animals are self serving by nature, and our social structure is directly derived, influenced, and facilitated bt that very instinct.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on 10 March 2018 20:374 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You can also utilize mail limbo system so you get it back in like 30 days.
I've done that. Mailed items to myself (alt account) for return later. I won't do that just to clear a container I opened, though. Instead, I tend to use it when I am full and I know it will be a while before I am back at a bank or at a merchant. In that way, I don't run into the situation where I am opening something with a full inventory.Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.
The respawn timer starts the moment the chest is opened/unlocked.
It doesn't matter if you empty it or not, it will respawn just the same.
True but its still toxic to leave opened chests
No, it is just a part of the game. Not toxic. Not illegal. Just a thing that happens, like multiple people killing bosses, people taking quest items before you can get to them.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People need to get over it. I'm not wasting my personal time on ungrateful -people- who expect the game handed to them on a silver platter, and especially not those who expect me to do it.
My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too. You all feel your time is more important than others', and thats the nature of the world. Games are inherently PVP, any way you look at it, and I will look out for myself and my circle first.
I expect each and every one of you to do the same.
The person who got to the chest first can do whatever they'd like with it, and if you don't like that, tough. You should have gotten to it first.
Serious first world problems that arent really problems, self entitlement is running rampant.
Zounds! The irony!
Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too.
Selfishness as a virtue. Everyone who claims to desire selflessness is a hypocrite who actually just wants to selfishly force others to serve their needs.
Interesting philosophy. I can't say I buy into it. What I do understand is this:
People. We're why we can't have nice things.
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Aurie✭✭✭✭✭
✭Narvuntien wrote: »I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.
If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables
... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.
You can destroy it rather than leaving it for other people to deal with.3 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Narvuntien wrote: »I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.
If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables
... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.
You can destroy it rather than leaving it for other people to deal with.
That would take precious time and time is money, don't you know? That's why I just vendor the gear and weapons for quick gold. Ill also mail anything I want to keep to a trusted friend to bounce anything I want to decon or keep, like purple or good set gear.Edited by VaranisArano on 10 March 2018 20:431 -
Aurie✭✭✭✭✭
✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People need to get over it. I'm not wasting my personal time on ungrateful -people- who expect the game handed to them on a silver platter, and especially not those who expect me to do it.
My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too. You all feel your time is more important than others', and thats the nature of the world. Games are inherently PVP, any way you look at it, and I will look out for myself and my circle first.
I expect each and every one of you to do the same.
The person who got to the chest first can do whatever they'd like with it, and if you don't like that, tough. You should have gotten to it first.
Serious first world problems that arent really problems, self entitlement is running rampant.
And for the people arguing this is analogous to littering or leaving your trash at the table, etc etc, I want you to take a long, hard look at yourselves and really pick apart exactly why you indulge in courtesies. You do it because it benefits you, whether socially so you stay in the staff's good graces (same for treating them with respect, and them to you), or because you haven't realized there's more to being a good, considerate person than just that.
Animals are self serving by nature, and our social structure is directly derived, influenced, and facilitated bt that very instinct.
Doesn't mean you have to behave like an animal though. Human beings moved on a long time ago.
Edited by Aurie on 10 March 2018 21:012 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too.
Selfishness as a virtue. Everyone who claims to desire selflessness is a hypocrite who actually just wants to selfishly force others to serve their needs.
Interesting philosophy. I can't say I buy into it. What I do understand is this:
People. We're why we can't have nice things.
You call me a hypocrite, chastise me for being selfish, and expect me to cater to you under these pretenses. You're simply trying to shame people into giving you what you want.
Sometimes I forget to read slowly.Edited by Judas Helviaryn on 10 March 2018 22:490 -
GarnetFire17✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »It probably was the same person,
Thing is had they took everything it would just not appear.
Cuz once opened they still respawn as if they were emptied.
Still annoying to be let down though
It's not just that you were "let down" it's that you went out of your way to open that chest and took time going for it. If I don't see the chest, than I am not having my time and effort wasted cleaning up someone else's litter. I am going on to the next one.Edited by GarnetFire17 on 10 March 2018 21:081 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »People need to get over it. I'm not wasting my personal time on ungrateful -people- who expect the game handed to them on a silver platter, and especially not those who expect me to do it.
My time is more valuable to me than your time is, and that's exactly how it is for those of you arguing against partially looted chests too. You all feel your time is more important than others', and thats the nature of the world. Games are inherently PVP, any way you look at it, and I will look out for myself and my circle first.
I expect each and every one of you to do the same.
The person who got to the chest first can do whatever they'd like with it, and if you don't like that, tough. You should have gotten to it first.
Serious first world problems that arent really problems, self entitlement is running rampant.
And for the people arguing this is analogous to littering or leaving your trash at the table, etc etc, I want you to take a long, hard look at yourselves and really pick apart exactly why you indulge in courtesies. You do it because it benefits you, whether socially so you stay in the staff's good graces (same for treating them with respect, and them to you), or because you haven't realized there's more to being a good, considerate person than just that.
Animals are self serving by nature, and our social structure is directly derived, influenced, and facilitated bt that very instinct.
This post screams sadness.
Hugs bro.2
