Armatesz wrote: »

Miro wrote: »

hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.

It does time out but takes less than 5 minutes for it to do so. I've tested it myself.
I do however think they should reduce the timer to 60 seconds from opening it. If you are wondering chests are under the same time down as group dungeon chests as well. For those wondering yes I do not have auto loot on and yes I do take everything from chests. If it is nodes I generally take everything, well except for clockwork city for those crafting dailies... take everything except quest item. You would be surprised at how quick the refresh for those things are.

That may be true for treasure chests you find in dungeons, delves, trials, dolemens, as well as treasure-map chests, but I know it is NOT true for regular old treasure chests that spawn topside (unless ZOS changed how they coded top-side treasure chests within the last 60 days).

I do not care what people leave in chests. I was not always a subscriber and understand sometimes they need to make a choice of what to take because their inventory is limited. When I find an already opened chest I just pick all and move along to another one. Prefer to not wasting day on thinking what to do with an obvious stuff .

Armatesz wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

Miro wrote: »

hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.

It does time out but takes less than 5 minutes for it to do so. I've tested it myself.
I do however think they should reduce the timer to 60 seconds from opening it. If you are wondering chests are under the same time down as group dungeon chests as well. For those wondering yes I do not have auto loot on and yes I do take everything from chests. If it is nodes I generally take everything, well except for clockwork city for those crafting dailies... take everything except quest item. You would be surprised at how quick the refresh for those things are.

That may be true for treasure chests you find in dungeons, delves, trials, as well as treasure-map chests, but I don't believe it works that way for treasure chests that spawn topside.

They do, I've checked that as well. Wasn't easy but I did test it. Works the same way.

That is really strange, because when I farm (been farming in Hews Bane since it went live), treasure chests with junk items left in them sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there. Maybe ZOS did recode topside chests. I'll check it out.

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.

ZOS probably could stand to shorten the despawn time considerably. There is no reason for any opened resource to stay around for more than a minute or two. This would at least reduce the amount of times someone comes across these.

However, I am really against any sort of penalties or player requirements related to taking stuff out of chests and resource nodes. To me, that is worse than someone leaving the stuff behind.

Leaving stuff behind is not a crime, nor should it be.

Slick_007 wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

That being said, it would be nice if ZOS gave us a quality of life improvement that allowed players to right-click on an item while it was still in the treasure chest in order to choose 'delete' (saving us from having to take the item(s) into our inventory before deleting).

only if they allow us to put items IN chests. where else am i going to store excess lockpicks. they will come in handy for someone

Lmao, I would so likely put in a buncha motifs for lower level people so they can pick them up. Or who knows what goodies I might load up in them to surprise them with. Put in like 1200 daedric throne skulls. Be a real kick when they see that.

lordrichter wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

That being said, it would be nice if ZOS gave us a quality of life improvement that allowed players to right-click on an item while it was still in the treasure chest in order to choose 'delete' (saving us from having to take the item(s) into our inventory before deleting).

only if they allow us to put items IN chests. where else am i going to store excess lockpicks. they will come in handy for someone

Finally, a way to get rid of excess Grease, and other poison solvents, Cloudy poisons, and excess Ta without having to delete them.

Are you in a guild? If so, maybe ask if anyone there wants them? We pass excess stuff like that around before just deleting.

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

That being said, it would be nice if ZOS gave us a quality of life improvement that allowed players to right-click on an item while it was still in the treasure chest in order to choose 'delete' (saving us from having to take the item(s) into our inventory before deleting).

only if they allow us to put items IN chests. where else am i going to store excess lockpicks. they will come in handy for someone

Finally, a way to get rid of excess Grease, and other poison solvents, Cloudy poisons, and excess Ta without having to delete them.

Are you in a guild? If so, maybe ask if anyone there wants them? We pass excess stuff like that around before just deleting.

My comment was more in jest, than anything else.

On a more serious note, when I am looking to get rid of garbage, it is usually because I have to clean out some chest or resource node. Thankfully, I can leave dead bodies around with loot in them. There isn't a lot of time to pawn my stuff off on a guild mate. If I knew I was going to be out of inventory before I opened the container, I would not have opened the container, so time is ticking.

Basically, I quickly delete stuff of lesser value, then re-open the container and take what is in there. I make use of the "Mark as Junk" option so it is easy to find junk to delete. There are times, mainly with newer characters on my alt account (no ESO Plus) that don't have a lot of bag space, and where there is nothing of lesser value to toss. In those cases, the chest will despawn when the timer expires, or some other player will come along and take the stuff.

People may have their opinion on chest etiquette.

I say they can farm how they like, leave the trash loot or take it...

Diminish wrote: »

I'll tell you what. You convince ZoS to give me a bottomless bag for junk from chests and I'll pick them all clean. Until then, no, I don't feel like wasting time picking through 200 items just to delete/vendor then countless garbage found in most chests. The comments in this thread are ridiculous... Loot penalties, no chest to spawn until the one you didn't fully loot despawns, etc. You guys are ridiculous. The chests respawn on a timer; fully looted or not.

Choose weapons -sell junk to vendor
Choose Apparel -sell junk to vendor
Every so often, head to an enchanter and decon glyphs for nice runes to sell.

It takes like 30 seconds. At most, a minute. I should know, I do it regularly and make a fair bit of extra gold from it. Especially from the rhinestones.

Beardimus wrote: »

Hetaira wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Humans like you are what makes playing with other humans horrible sometimes.

Just wow. So human A just wants to play a computer game as he wants. And Human B insults him IRL and feels justified.....

You must be one of those players who does this very thing.

I dislike inconsiderate players, and knowingly leaving trash is inconsiderate. I take everything, and disgard what I don't want. It's really not that hard to do.

I don't see what the big deal is. It seems we have enough people here to go out right now and do the same to this person. So why not we all go into Vvardenfell right now and loot the chests so this person gets their own medicine?

Maryal wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

No Excuses!
Step 1:
Take the item(s) out of the chest that you want to keep
Step 2:
Take as many of the junk items as you can into your inventory and destroy them .. keep doing this until the chest is empty.

There are various spawn points on the map where a treasure chest will appear (per geographical area). Only so many chests can spawn-in at a time (within that area). When one treasure chest de-spawns, another one will appear on a different spawn point. The longer a partially emptied treasure chest sits there, the longer it takes for the replacement chest to spawn in.

I realize that the 2-step process I outlined above may be very difficult for some players. Unfortunately, there aren't any CP nodes that will help and I didn't see anything in the crown store that would be helpful either (despite the fact that it's extremely difficult for some players to level up this ability).

That being said, it would be nice if ZOS gave us a quality of life improvement that allowed players to right-click on an item while it was still in the treasure chest in order to choose 'delete' (saving us from having to take the item(s) into our inventory before deleting).

I don't think deletion should be allowed without actually owning the item. But being able to clear inventory while it is open would be nice.

I like the idea of a shorter period for keeping the chest open, but have the shorter period stop when anything from the node is taken, not from a chest unlock, for example. The assumption would be that what gets left behind is what people have little interest in.

Of course, making inventory management suck less would also help with this.

Personally when I find I am hitting enough pre-picked chests I turn around and go the opposite way or to another part of the map.
As clearly you were just a bit behind the same route as that person.

This issue will never be fixed as long as chests are not instanced and instanced chests are not a great idea. They could in theory lower to despawn timer but then that's penalising players who get caught by a respawning mod, don't have enough inventory space and need to manage for a bit etc.

Other option is make chests check for players within X range, after being picked and if there are none it despawns after 10 seconds.

However end of the day if the person was taking all the items you're still having the same effect, you were following someone else on a route and would have just found no chests at all.

tambo.01b16_ESO wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Hetaira wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Humans like you are what makes playing with other humans horrible sometimes.

Just wow. So human A just wants to play a computer game as he wants. And Human B insults him IRL and feels justified.....

That can be countered by: Human A prevents other players from playing the game as they want (e.g. being able to open chests and receive the full contents instead of others' leavings.).

And this can be countered by Human A is playing the game they the way they want, and not how Human B, C, D or E wants them to play the game.

Nobody has any right to dictate to any other person how they should play the game just because they don't like it.

That's true. If someone wants to be a selfish, inconsiderate arse and ZMax has no rule against it, they certainly can. I find it interesting that some people are so thoughtless but hey, they want what they want and who cares about anyone else wants...or in this case, don't want what there is.

Edit: Missing word.