To many opened chests

Cpt_Teemo · March 2018

Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.

Cpt_Teemo · March 2018

Fyi just ran into nearly 20 opened chests in vvard, probably by the same person

Grimm13 · March 2018

If chests would despawn 60 seconds after being closed, that should be enough time for someone to adjust inventory and reopen to grab the rest if need be. 90 seconds at the most.

This should improve the matter.

Waffennacht · March 2018

It probably was the same person,

Thing is had they took everything it would just not appear.

Cuz once opened they still respawn as if they were emptied.

Still annoying to be let down though

NoTimeToWait · March 2018

I suppose it's a tactic. You discourage your competitors from doing chest runs. Worked on me. I don't do chest runs anymore, and I suppose soon will stop doing resource node runs too for the same reason

VaranisArano · March 2018

I usually just grab the junk they left behind and vendor it. No sense in wasting stuff worth gold (that they could be using to max out their bag space)

But then, I have maxed bag space on my farming toon, so I can carry all the enchanting runes, all the mats, and all the stuff I pull out of chests - all without a crafting bag from ESO+. It can be done, so I assume that anyone leaving stuff in chests is either too poor to have their bag space maxed (pick everything up, vendor it, and earn your 250 gold a day easy) or a jerk who can't be bothered to pick up after themself.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · March 2018

Just don't open a box that has been picked already. Not sure how this is a problem.

Anotherone773 · March 2018

On PC NA i think there are just a few people that do this. I sometimes find unlocked chests and nodes with just bait. i always clear out even if they picked the good stuff. Everything in the chest/node is useful. I deconstruct the gear for the mats, the bait i use or sell, etc. The only thing that is truly worthless is lockpicks left in thieves troves. I take them anyway and destroy them in my inventory.

With chests/nodes they think they are leaving worthless junk behind, my bank account tells a different story.

starkerealm · March 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Just don't open a box that has been picked already. Not sure how this is a problem.

Issue is, we're talking about Vvardenfell. There are some ludicrously valuable pieces that you can pull from those chests. But... if someone's already looted it, then the chest will be nearly worthless... except, now you've come over here trying to farm that chest, and you're just wasting your time, meanwhile the guy cracking chests is just bouncing around looking for those BA pages.

The problem isn't picking up someone else's trash. It's that the chest is trash, and not respawning, because someone else couldn't be bothered to clean up after themselves.

Narvuntien · March 2018

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Androconium · March 2018

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

What?

You bank and inventory are both full and you're out harvesting chest?

What?

Just because you're in Vvardenfell doesn't mean that you need to go to the bank in Vivec.

What?

Nothing you say here is evidence of ANY strategy whatsoever.

Load those scissors up and RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Androconium · March 2018

There is a group of 'Elite Trader' types that go hunting Necro and Mother's Sorrow stuff etc, in whatever zones they are in.

they don't bother picking the Simple level chests.
They only take the blue runestones from the towers.

That leaves anyone following to collect from

Full simple chests
half-empty 'Use' level chests
Rune towers with only orange/yellow/brown rune tokens.

The problem for me is that I like to get the XP from the lockpicking. 5.5k when using ambrosia during the CP 'increased rate' period, so nothing to be sneezed at if you can get 2 chests a minute; along with whatever loot comes along.

Sometimes the frustration at finding open and Simple chests; or none at all, along with no mats or only brown runes is too much. My strategy then is to open the Simple chests and take the cash and anything of reasonable value. There are probably more green items worth keeping and upgrading, then purple items. I also target alchemy plants and leave behind the worms, resin and anything else, but the plant itself.

Things soon go back to how it should be, as these Elite Trader types can't be bothered wasting the time.

The other good news is that Kutas are not blue.

Mz_Jo · March 2018

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Ummmm how about picking it up and just take 2 seconds to delete something!

This way the chest can respawn and someone else can get a chance.

Who knows you could even be that someone!

preevious · March 2018

Need a simple change :

Player opens as chest. Then, if the chest isn't empty and the player find himself/herself at more than 30 meters of said chest, all drop rates for everything in the game get à 50% penalty for 24H. Cumulative each time someone leave scraps in a chest (or worms in a flower).

People will then start to behave properly !

Twenty0zTsunami · March 2018

NoTimeToWait wrote: »

I suppose it's a tactic. You discourage your competitors from doing chest runs. Worked on me. I don't do chest runs anymore, and I suppose soon will stop doing resource node runs too for the same reason

they're just too cheap for craft bag.

Bhaal5 · March 2018

Opps sorry

Bhaal5 · March 2018

preevious wrote: »

Need a simple change :

Player opens as chest. Then, if the chest isn't empty and the player find himself/herself at more than 30 meters of said chest, all drop rates for everything in the game get à 50% penalty for 24H. Cumulative each time someone leave scraps in a chest (or worms in a flower).

People will then start to behave properly !

Yeah that'll keep people in game

Realistic if player opens chest, and doesnt pick up all contents and leaves area (say 30 metres away) chest should despawn.... So its a lazy developer that everyone should be mad at

preevious · March 2018

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Realistic if player opens chest, and doesnt pick up all contents and leaves area (say 30 metres away) chest should despawn.... So its a lazy developer that everyone should be mad at

Ah, yes, the system is not well thought out, I agree.

What disagree with is that we should be mad at only the devs.
The fact that the system makes it possible to behave like a pig doesn't mean that those that do are without responsibility.

The game is already very complicated, and is not made or changed in the push of a single button, so, let's not ask too much of the devs (who certainly have their hands full already) and, instead, as a community, let's all behave like decents humans.

Hetaira · March 2018

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Humans like you are what makes playing with other humans horrible sometimes.

Beardimus · March 2018

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.

Honestly of all the things that could be called toxic in this game, and forum this one is small fry

Beardimus · March 2018

Hetaira wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Humans like you are what makes playing with other humans horrible sometimes.

Just wow. So human A just wants to play a computer game as he wants. And Human B insults him IRL and feels justified.....

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

Hetaira wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

Humans like you are what makes playing with other humans horrible sometimes.

Just wow. So human A just wants to play a computer game as he wants. And Human B insults him IRL and feels justified.....

That can be countered by: Human A prevents other players from playing the game as they want (e.g. being able to open chests and receive the full contents instead of others' leavings.).

Elfen3Warrior · March 2018

Anotherone773 wrote: »

On PC NA i think there are just a few people that do this. I sometimes find unlocked chests and nodes with just bait. i always clear out even if they picked the good stuff. Everything in the chest/node is useful. I deconstruct the gear for the mats, the bait i use or sell, etc. The only thing that is truly worthless is lockpicks left in thieves troves. I take them anyway and destroy them in my inventory.

With chests/nodes they think they are leaving worthless junk behind, my bank account tells a different story.

^ this ^ I have a craft bag, and also put items in guild stores. At the end of run, I bank lockpicks for my toons, or destroy.

Xbox NA

Mz_Jo · March 2018

As I understand the frustration, just being nasty usually encourages more negative behavior.

It does suck coming up on a chest partial and it's rude.

Some people are just trolls but there are a lot of new people who really may not know that by not looting everything the chest will just sit.

Also some that play this game are kids and don't care. They will grow up one day.

Also it is JUST A GAME!!

Suggestions and reasonable ideas is something that ZOS can work with.

Slick_007 · March 2018

somewhere theres a tiny violin playing for you.

me, im taking whats left in the chest and selling it.

there is no problem here that zos need to do anything about. the issue is some players need an attitude adjustment. and i dont mean the ones leaving partially looted items.

Mz_Jo · March 2018

Hey, I deal with it myself.
I take it also, as far as I'm concerned it's still gold to me LOL

I have my merchant and banker LOL
I even take the time to do return to sender emails to my friends for duplicate maps!
I'm also just as happy to take your worms and resin, I have no issues with mats.

I am a grown up though and just raised to think about others and share.

Maybe it's a generation thing is all.

I don't lose sleep over it, would be cool if the chest just auto respawned or something. I don't pretend to have any answers or am trying to. Merely offering suggestions.

To each their own and nobody has to nasty over it LOL

Slick_007 · March 2018

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Something really needs to be done about this toxic way of playing the game leaving trash for other people wasting everyone's time I suggest that you can't loot another chest unless you previously loot everything to make the chest despawn, or till it despawns on its own.

this thread is the toxic part of this equation. your attitude that others should have to clean up items that you dont want. that they should spend time dealing with things they dont want to, for you. to save you from having to deal with things that you dont want.

you simply are not that important. and your complaint is all about you. its not about them, its about you. whining that you found some items that you dont want and someone else should have removed them for you.

edit: i found 2 open chests so far during this event. 2. i found many more than that that were not unlocked. this is not a widespread thing and you are overexaggerating the situation, as normally is the case with this topic.

Miro · March 2018

hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.

Mz_Jo · March 2018

I agree Slick!!

Speaking for myself, I just don't care for the specific "trolling" in Morrowind.

It has only happened on a few occasions I am aware of when some friends had been trying in the past to get the BA motif and someone was being deliberate and proud about it.

The other times are just eh, oh well.
Slightly more so on a newer toon but opening chests isn't the best thieving xp!!

Maryal · March 2018

Narvuntien wrote: »

I have no inventory space...my bank is full... I don't want to spend 40K on more.

If I pick up that pointless piece of equipment in this chest I'll have to stop my adventuring and go back to town to sell/decon/bank all this trash... this is particularly bad in VVaadenfel where Vivec is the only place with a bank and crafting tables

... or I can just leave the trash in this chest and continue with my adventure.

No Excuses!
Step 1:
Take the item(s) out of the chest that you want to keep
Step 2:
Take as many of the junk items as you can into your inventory and destroy them .. keep doing this until the chest is empty.

There are various spawn points on the map where a treasure chest will appear (per geographical area). Only so many chests can spawn-in at a time (within that area). When one treasure chest de-spawns, another one will appear on a different spawn point. The longer a partially emptied treasure chest sits there, the longer it takes for the replacement chest to spawn in.

I realize that the 2-step process I outlined above may be very difficult for some players. Unfortunately, there aren't any CP nodes that will help and I didn't see anything in the crown store that would be helpful either (despite the fact that it's extremely difficult for some players to level up this ability).

That being said, it would be nice if ZOS gave us a quality of life improvement that allowed players to right-click on an item while it was still in the treasure chest in order to choose 'delete' (saving us from having to take the item(s) into our inventory before deleting).

Armatesz · March 2018

Miro wrote: »

hi...multiple players told me when i complained about the use chests in zone that it does not matter the chest will disappear after a timer and it will appear full and locked and told me to try and wait near a chest(and hope its one of those with short timer) and check the story for myself. But considering i have autoloot on and i was on a chest run i did not stop to verify that. But it might be true.

It does time out but takes less than 5 minutes for it to do so. I've tested it myself.
I do however think they should reduce the timer to 60 seconds from opening it. If you are wondering chests are under the same time down as group dungeon chests as well. For those wondering yes I do not have auto loot on and yes I do take everything from chests. If it is nodes I generally take everything, well except for clockwork city for those crafting dailies... take everything except quest item. You would be surprised at how quick the refresh for those things are.