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CWC DLC and Stamina Maelstrom Weapons
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Is there any use for them still (excluding The Maelstrom’s Bow)?
As is people are claiming that you’re better off using crafted weapons now, and how the new Asylum 2H will outperform the Maelstrom’s 2H by a mile in PVP content. The Maelstrom’s Sword and shield have always been a joke, so what’s the point now of Maelstrom weapons from a stamina perspective? Or is it pretty much best to just deconstruct them?
As is people are claiming that you’re better off using crafted weapons now, and how the new Asylum 2H will outperform the Maelstrom’s 2H by a mile in PVP content. The Maelstrom’s Sword and shield have always been a joke, so what’s the point now of Maelstrom weapons from a stamina perspective? Or is it pretty much best to just deconstruct them?
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✭✭The sword and shield got a pretty substantial buff in terms of raw sustain values.
The rest of them, they can be useful on some niche builds, instead of being the best thing possible for all builds.
Is that ideal? not really, but it would take a lot of buffs to bring them back into the meta.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
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✭✭✭Bow is the only one I've really used since Morrowind besides the 2-hander, which I'd only use if I had a dead spot.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA0 -
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✭✭✭SammyFable wrote: »At least nobody has to grind the hardest pve content in order to be more successful in pvp.
That was never the case. If you can't cut it without vMA weapons in PvP, an extra 189 weapon/spell damage isn't going to help you.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SammyFable wrote: »At least nobody has to grind the hardest pve content in order to be more successful in pvp.
That may be the case, but ZOS has once again rendered old content damn near useless. And that’s not good. Sure, it is always good to have something new for players to strive for. However, it is never good when older content and loot is left to rot away after players have spent so many hours to obtain. Especially in something as unforgiving as Maelstrom Arena.
I suppose that I’m happy in a sense that magicka-based builds will always have a spot available for Maelstrom Weapons. This is because I tend to enjoy magicka-based builds over stamina-based builds, although I have both. And with CWC coming soon do consoles, I’ll soon be able to transmute all those weapons that I have in unfavorable traits, to more useful traits.
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✭✭DW is still crap as you can't sustain the rotation in PvE without massive DPS loss and in PvP it has no use anyway.
2H without the weapon damage is not good as the charge thing never was anyway.
Sword and Board is strong now when you can utilize it.EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)0 -
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✭✭Is there any use for them still (excluding The Maelstrom’s Bow)?
As is people are claiming that you’re better off using crafted weapons now, and how the new Asylum 2H will outperform the Maelstrom’s 2H by a mile in PVP content. The Maelstrom’s Sword and shield have always been a joke, so what’s the point now of Maelstrom weapons from a stamina perspective? Or is it pretty much best to just deconstruct them?
Those who are claiming sword and board is buff and can have use.
Its not worth dropping moster set or 5 piece set bonus
You can easily sustain as tank in pve and pvp.
Thanks to bone pirate set for pvp!
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭Is there any use for them still (excluding The Maelstrom’s Bow)?
As is people are claiming that you’re better off using crafted weapons now, and how the new Asylum 2H will outperform the Maelstrom’s 2H by a mile in PVP content. The Maelstrom’s Sword and shield have always been a joke, so what’s the point now of Maelstrom weapons from a stamina perspective? Or is it pretty much best to just deconstruct them?
Well. First of all, master weapons (I mean DSA/MSA/As weapons) are not positioned as BiS for anything. This is just an interesting option for buildcrafting. Secondly.
Bow is pretty strong for PVE and has some application for PVP (fighting in tight spaces). Don't think it should be buffed.
2H is not good in PVE and good enough for PVP. Well, it's difficult to imagine the active use of Critical Charge in PVE.
DW is very good for PVE and PVP. It is quite unpopular, but at the same time a very strong weapon, the only problem of which is difficulties with resource management.
S&B is good for PVE and PVP in some cases. In the first case - a good weapon as a gag for a single panel. In the second case - a good option for those who use Low Slash as spam ability.
I hope now you understand what this weapon represents (although you could understand it by reading their descriptions). Good luck in theorycrafting Everything is viable0 -
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✭✭Is there any use for them still (excluding The Maelstrom’s Bow)?
As is people are claiming that you’re better off using crafted weapons now, and how the new Asylum 2H will outperform the Maelstrom’s 2H by a mile in PVP content. The Maelstrom’s Sword and shield have always been a joke, so what’s the point now of Maelstrom weapons from a stamina perspective? Or is it pretty much best to just deconstruct them?
Well. First of all, master weapons (I mean DSA/MSA/As weapons) are not positioned as BiS for anything. This is just an interesting option for buildcrafting. Secondly.
Bow is pretty strong for PVE and has some application for PVP (fighting in tight spaces). Don't think it should be buffed.
2H is not good in PVE and good enough for PVP. Well, it's difficult to imagine the active use of Critical Charge in PVE.
DW is very good for PVE and PVP. It is quite unpopular, but at the same time a very strong weapon, the only problem of which is difficulties with resource management.
S&B is good for PVE and PVP in some cases. In the first case - a good weapon as a gag for a single panel. In the second case - a good option for those who use Low Slash as spam ability.
I hope now you understand what this weapon represents (although you could understand it by reading their descriptions). Good luck in theorycrafting
Lol, have you ever used VMA dual wield in pvp?
Look like L2P issue..
VMA weapons not worth dropping monster set or set 5th piece bonus in PVP!
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, have you ever dual wield in pvp?
Look like L2P issue..
Sure. Already more than two years. And it's clearly l2p issue and choice of playstyle
Although I remembered that MSA DW doesn't work correctly with Poison Arrow so for now it's not so good
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✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, have you ever dual wield in pvp?
Look like L2P issue..
Sure. Already more than two years. And it's clearly l2p issue and choice of playstyle
Although I remembered that MSA DW doesn't work correctly with Poison Arrow so for now it's not so good
Its not choice of playstyle but a mistake to use flury in pvp!
Any good oponent will get enough time to kill!
2H dot is very weaker, you will feel bad after seeing its hitting like 400 damage, normally stampede use once in a fight. VDSA/AS 2h are far better than VMA
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lol, have you ever dual wield in pvp?
Look like L2P issue..
Sure. Already more than two years. And it's clearly l2p issue and choice of playstyle
Although I remembered that MSA DW doesn't work correctly with Poison Arrow so for now it's not so good
Its not choice of playstyle but a mistake to use flury in pvp!
Any good oponent will get enough time to kill!
2H dot is very weaker, you will feel bad after seeing its hitting like 400 damage, normally stampede use once in a fight. VDSA/AS 2h are far better than VMA
I actively use every DW skill in PVP in different builds (unfortunately except ulti) and have a good perfomance.
But now I do not want to boast of fighting trophies. Similarly, I do not want to persuade you in anything. So I'll just say "IMO", and let everyone "play as he wants", as Matt Firor said
Edited by Ladislao on 27 October 2017 18:36Everything is viable0
