Healing for certain classes has felt like that for a while, Sadly no CP and all the changes doesnt seem to have fixed it.

Are you using major and minor defile? Is your team attacking the same target? Have you tried pulling back to get the enemy away from their ground target heals and then bursting them?

The only heal that is OP right now is the ridiculously low cost warden ultimate "LSD Trees". The heal itself isn't ridiculously OP, but the low cost pushes it over the top IMO. Stack that with resto ult and you're going to have a tough time...

But both are ground targets, which means the enemy can't leave their spot without losing their heals. So just disengage and try to extend them out.

What? No. Just no. Heals in No CP are by no means an issue. Anyone spamming heals will run out of resources in no time. Either that, or they wont be able to kill a fly.

You are clearly talking about templars (waving hand in the air). Sure, two of them cross healing is a real pain. But so are two Trollking stamproctards. Or two permablocking magdk's. Find your own way to mitigate and counter those that you meet.

Healing is fine as is.

Trashkan wrote: »

How do you kill a healer that can heal 200k in 30 seconds? Alone.

That's only about 6666 ish HPS, I have seen many PvPers deal more than that in burst DPS and if your DPS is higher than their HPS they will eventually die. Even sustain fighting PvPers can deal more than that in DPS if done right.

Trashkan wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Trashkan wrote: »

How do you kill a healer that can heal 200k in 30 seconds? Alone.

That's only about 6666 ish HPS, I have seen many PvPers deal more than that in burst DPS and if your DPS is higher than their HPS they will eventually die. Even sustain fighting PvPers can deal more than that in DPS if done right.

Very few pvpers can hit 7k a second for 30 seconds on a single target because there is defense involved. Now multiple targets it's easy peasy but 1v1 a fight is typically over fast if your hitting these numbers.

Defenses cost resources too, the more they have to use them the less they have for heals and attacks. Its a risk reward scenario, either way healing is not a problem if dealt with right. Though some builds are more suited to take on the longer fights than others obviously, its kind of a rock paper scissors type of things but with more than just 3 types.

brandonv516 wrote: »

Trashkan wrote: »

So wheres the balance where is the heals for us poor magika dks?

Burning embers, healing ward, resto ultimate. I find these 3 a must for BG on my magicka DK.

The one morph for whip has a nice heal to it if you can get your enemy off balance (easy to do of you use shielded assault or fossilize).

At of all these embers is my go to I can't stand restro staff so cliche I managed maelstrom without and I manage PvP without it and do just fine I guess what I am trying to get across is my toon is built to burst insane amounts of dmg and survival isn't a problem in these situations but when I am pounding a guy and 2 or 3 teammates come to help and the warden or templar cannot be killed for nothing I find it strange considering non c.p and you have a lot less resistance to hardy,defender,thauturmurge, ECT. I thought non c.p PvP was suppose to fix this.

Gravord wrote: »

Trashkan wrote: »

How do you kill a healer that can heal 200k in 30 seconds? Alone. You also got to look at it from all class perspective not just from Warden Templars and Sorcs and on top of that from a dps perspective too. These healing builds can heal riducoulsy and since there stats are alocated into spell dmg or max magika they can burst just as fast. So wheres the balance where is the heals for us poor magika dks?

Ever heard of cc and burst? Killing ppl is not fighting mobs, if you cant do it under 10s, you are doing it wrong. And if he is properly build, then you get assist dd following on your target calls and nothing can sustain that.

Lol its like you didnt read the rest of the post. As i said you say these things but I guess your build can crack 50k in 6 seconds? Mine can I can put up to 9k a second for the first 7 or 8 seconds then it tapers because of heals and defense. So your build does more?????

Gravord wrote: »

Trashkan wrote: »

Gravord wrote: »

Trashkan wrote: »

How do you kill a healer that can heal 200k in 30 seconds? Alone. You also got to look at it from all class perspective not just from Warden Templars and Sorcs and on top of that from a dps perspective too. These healing builds can heal riducoulsy and since there stats are alocated into spell dmg or max magika they can burst just as fast. So wheres the balance where is the heals for us poor magika dks?

Ever heard of cc and burst? Killing ppl is not fighting mobs, if you cant do it under 10s, you are doing it wrong. And if he is properly build, then you get assist dd following on your target calls and nothing can sustain that.

Lol its like you didnt read the rest of the post. As i said you say these things but I guess your build can crack 50k in 6 seconds? Mine can I can put up to 9k a second for the first 7 or 8 seconds then it tapers because of heals and defense. So your build does more?????

8 seconds with 9k dps? Nothing stays alive, so either your numbers are fake or you want to kill ppl on first touch to feel good.

That's all my options??? Just because you can't hit it doesn't mean other's can't.