Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DreamClown wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

I started running dual wield the other day and dunno if I could ever turn back to a destroy staff in pvp. Running 5 julianos, 4 lich, 3 willpower on main bar with a resto lich staff on back bar for the 5 piece lich. Dual wield swords, and 5 light/1/1. Not sure the exact spell damage buffed up but I know it's right around ~3800. Using the thief mundus for now with inner light I'm at 42k magicka, and 60% critical in cyrodiil. The critical chance is a little high and I could run atronach instead but with dark conversion and lich, I can sustain really easily.

@Hutch679 That sounds interesting! Would you mind detailing your trait and ability bars for that setup?

This set up is a zerg surfing build. Effective but not so hot for small scale. I love seeing a mag sorc use dark conversion. Normally means the next cc they die. Spinners and lich is great, but very mediocre against enemies with shields. Necro and lich forces you to use pets, taking away 1 skill essentially since you've gotta double bar it.

I don't play in a zerg, normally I'm solo and I can do quite well with it. The burst damage is really high. One sucky thing on console is that bar swapping is not as fast so having wards on rest bar is risky. High risk/high reward though. I was playing night and had a bunch of kills that I killed people in 3 hits. Also had a bunch of fights that I got obliterated. Gotta take it with a grain of salt. You aren't going to be a super tank that can kill anyone and soak up the damage, but you also will 2 piece people if they don't cc you and zerg you down quickly.

I'm at 45k magic and 3400 spell damage with 50% critical right now in cyrodiil. 22k health and 1350 mag regen.

Can you screen shot that for me? I ran that same build and didn't have nearly the same stats. 5/1/1 light undaunted 9, same skills.

No clue how to post a screen shot I'm on xbox. Are you a high elf? Tri stat food? Infused trait on helm, chest, and legs? Mage mundus stone? All gold items?

Made mundus would account for a good chunk of the magicka, i was running shadow with that build. Damage is a lot higher too, meh what every, i do fine. Just sometimes i see identical builds and wonder what i didn't have. Was this prior to the dw nerf too?

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Full inpen you will drop your shields and you will need precious seconds to recover.

On my sorc i have 0 crit resist and only 2 shields. Still op as ***

so ill bring my question here in and dont open a new post. i hope its ok

i wana re equip my sorc and have to get expensive gear for this

amberplasm+1 monster(with magica) + 5 spinners or 5 julianos or 5 nekropotence (with a pet )

amberplasm+2 monster(infernal guardian valkyn skoria slime claw)+ 4 nekropotence

lich front bar+ seducer backbar (restro) and a dmg 2 piece monster set (infernal guardian or slime claw valkyn skoria)

5* nekropotence (with a pet or engine guardian)/julianos/spinners front+ 2 pice monster set defensively or infernal guardian+ lich restro 5 piece back bar

can anyone tell me which combo is the best one?^^

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DreamClown wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

I started running dual wield the other day and dunno if I could ever turn back to a destroy staff in pvp. Running 5 julianos, 4 lich, 3 willpower on main bar with a resto lich staff on back bar for the 5 piece lich. Dual wield swords, and 5 light/1/1. Not sure the exact spell damage buffed up but I know it's right around ~3800. Using the thief mundus for now with inner light I'm at 42k magicka, and 60% critical in cyrodiil. The critical chance is a little high and I could run atronach instead but with dark conversion and lich, I can sustain really easily.

@Hutch679 That sounds interesting! Would you mind detailing your trait and ability bars for that setup?

This set up is a zerg surfing build. Effective but not so hot for small scale. I love seeing a mag sorc use dark conversion. Normally means the next cc they die. Spinners and lich is great, but very mediocre against enemies with shields. Necro and lich forces you to use pets, taking away 1 skill essentially since you've gotta double bar it.

I don't play in a zerg, normally I'm solo and I can do quite well with it. The burst damage is really high. One sucky thing on console is that bar swapping is not as fast so having wards on rest bar is risky. High risk/high reward though. I was playing night and had a bunch of kills that I killed people in 3 hits. Also had a bunch of fights that I got obliterated. Gotta take it with a grain of salt. You aren't going to be a super tank that can kill anyone and soak up the damage, but you also will 2 piece people if they don't cc you and zerg you down quickly.

I'm at 45k magic and 3400 spell damage with 50% critical right now in cyrodiil. 22k health and 1350 mag regen.

Can you screen shot that for me? I ran that same build and didn't have nearly the same stats. 5/1/1 light undaunted 9, same skills.

No clue how to post a screen shot I'm on xbox. Are you a high elf? Tri stat food? Infused trait on helm, chest, and legs? Mage mundus stone? All gold items?

Made mundus would account for a good chunk of the magicka, i was running shadow with that build. Damage is a lot higher too, meh what every, i do fine. Just sometimes i see identical builds and wonder what i didn't have. Was this prior to the dw nerf too?

Those are my stats on live. Yeah mage mundus is a ton of magicka. I'm actually thinking of going to 5 destro mastery, 5 lich, 2 willpower for battlegrounds. Basically stacking magicka and using a destro staff for destructive clench to knock people off the map. I've seen some battleground maps and there are lava pools off ledges and what not that are instant death when you fall in them. A knock back would be beneficial when people aren't paying attention to what's behind them

I really like the Destruction Mastery set, but I've never seen the armor pieces in Impenetrable, and the staves are really hard to come by at any price.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

DreamClown wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

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Biro123 wrote: »

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Minalan wrote: »

Five amberplasm, four necropotence, mismatched max Magicka monster pieces, master resto staff, Mage mundus. Result is 50K max Magicka, 2400 spell damage (nearly 3K with an enchant proc), 48% crit with minor and major prophesy. Double slot mage light for the crit and Magicka. Use entropy to empower and proc frags, open up with a medium or heavy fire attack to proc the enchant. Hardened ward is 15K. Ultimates scale off max Magicka, so you're good there.

Whatever you come up with should be in the (equivalent) spell damage range of 3500-4000. So 10K more max Magicka is worth about 900 or so spell damage.

This is a great build. I run it quite a lot in ic. Stam regen is good in pvp and vs some of the ic world bosses.

Bsw/lich is the main build I run. I use bsw/lich in both pvp and pve a lot these days. Got 50k+ magika is bsw/lich as well btw.very large sheid

How do you get 50k mag with bsw/lich? Is that with both inner light and Aegis?

I don't get much over 50k with 5xNecro/Lich/2max-mag monster pieces

I use 2x mix matched max magika medium and heavy monster set peices + mage light + bound agies + shooting star ultimate. I only use mage light on front bar so I don't waste 4x slots on toggles.

I prefer having the pet heal, I think, than having to double slot aegis.. Same amount of slots, but you get a nice burst heal, and lose the dependency on resto/healing ward.

Interesting...having the pet heal (on demand as well, rather than delayed!) would actually free a slot (healing ward) versus double slotting Aegis and keep a destro on the back bar. Plus, the magic/health Necro/Pet bonuses!

I warn you, good pvp players will target that pet first. I always do. No pet means no heals and typically way less magicka if the person is running 5 necro. Just an fyi

I can totally confirm this. I ran Necro with a Twilight for a couple weeks recently. It was fun for a while, until I kept running into smart players who would kill the Twilight and then bash me when I tried to re-summon it. This never ends well, so I went back to a pet-less build. Much more reliable!

I've used this for many months and its been fine. Yes smart people will target the pet - but you just need to be aware and shield/heal it just as much as you would yourself. Make it hard for them to kill the pet - then when they do - you only lose heals and a bit of max mag - all you need to do is keep those shields up until they lose CC immunity, streak through and re-summon. They often kind of lose heart at that point and switch back to focussing you instead.

Minalan wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

DreamClown wrote: »

Hutch679 wrote: »

I started running dual wield the other day and dunno if I could ever turn back to a destroy staff in pvp. Running 5 julianos, 4 lich, 3 willpower on main bar with a resto lich staff on back bar for the 5 piece lich. Dual wield swords, and 5 light/1/1. Not sure the exact spell damage buffed up but I know it's right around ~3800. Using the thief mundus for now with inner light I'm at 42k magicka, and 60% critical in cyrodiil. The critical chance is a little high and I could run atronach instead but with dark conversion and lich, I can sustain really easily.

@Hutch679 That sounds interesting! Would you mind detailing your trait and ability bars for that setup?

This set up is a zerg surfing build. Effective but not so hot for small scale. I love seeing a mag sorc use dark conversion. Normally means the next cc they die. Spinners and lich is great, but very mediocre against enemies with shields. Necro and lich forces you to use pets, taking away 1 skill essentially since you've gotta double bar it.

I don't play in a zerg, normally I'm solo and I can do quite well with it. The burst damage is really high. One sucky thing on console is that bar swapping is not as fast so having wards on rest bar is risky. High risk/high reward though. I was playing night and had a bunch of kills that I killed people in 3 hits. Also had a bunch of fights that I got obliterated. Gotta take it with a grain of salt. You aren't going to be a super tank that can kill anyone and soak up the damage, but you also will 2 piece people if they don't cc you and zerg you down quickly.

I'm at 45k magic and 3400 spell damage with 50% critical right now in cyrodiil. 22k health and 1350 mag regen.

Can you screen shot that for me? I ran that same build and didn't have nearly the same stats. 5/1/1 light undaunted 9, same skills.

No clue how to post a screen shot I'm on xbox. Are you a high elf? Tri stat food? Infused trait on helm, chest, and legs? Mage mundus stone? All gold items?

Made mundus would account for a good chunk of the magicka, i was running shadow with that build. Damage is a lot higher too, meh what every, i do fine. Just sometimes i see identical builds and wonder what i didn't have. Was this prior to the dw nerf too?

Those are my stats on live. Yeah mage mundus is a ton of magicka. I'm actually thinking of going to 5 destro mastery, 5 lich, 2 willpower for battlegrounds. Basically stacking magicka and using a destro staff for destructive clench to knock people off the map. I've seen some battleground maps and there are lava pools off ledges and what not that are instant death when you fall in them. A knock back would be beneficial when people aren't paying attention to what's behind them

I really like the Destruction Mastery set, but I've never seen the armor pieces in Impenetrable, and the staves are really hard to come by at any price.

I found this out last night. I don't believe it comes in impenetrable unfortunately. Would have to run jewelry and 1 infused piece with the staff..

I picked up rings, a staff, and an infused chest about a year back. Problem is the staff is an ice one.

Good luck getting a sharp fire staff. You have to run VDSA to get one, which requires a PVE raiding group that actually knows WTF it's doing.

You can buy it though if you have the gold. I also heard the staff drops on normal. Dunno of that is true or not though. I have a Julianos/Lich setup with a staff that I can use also. I might try that and my dual wield setup in battlegrounds to see what I like. The dual wield is legit in cyrodiil though