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Do you think ESO popularity will recover from current downswing?
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SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Op getting rekt by own poll
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jlboozer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!I don't know what server you play on, but ps4 NA is very populated. There are people everywhere I go, even remote areas....and a lot are low levels.
*LosingEdited by jlboozer on 10 April 2017 05:091 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yea, the greater days of ESO still ahead.CosmicSoul wrote: »It has to. Theres no any major MMORPG coming in next couple year at least. Also F2P when they decide to do so, will be relaunch for this game. Also I keep fingers crossed that ES TV-show is coming, we need something after Game of Thrones, thats going to be huge thing for ESO too. Not to mention ES6. So that said, push forward said Granny in the snow.
No, no thank you tons of people do not want another dark hbo clone.
ESO is Dark? I think ES series is more like Hercules or Xena. Its not definitely dark. Sure, they gotta put something in there to attract bigger audience, Hercules and Xena aint gonna make it, yeah, something mainstream, violence, hope, love go figure?
I think I figured it out, Hercules and Xena style boring brainless adventure TV-series, but main characters has depth like love, violence and hope. Of course modern day effects what Hercules and Xena lacked back in the days. Thats freaking winner, right htere.Edited by Sausage on 10 April 2017 05:520 -
Kneighbors✭✭✭✭✭Op getting rekt by own poll
You are very wrong there friend. I actually like ESO and hope vast majority of commenters are right and it only seems like a downswing, and I hope ZoS will fix what they have to fix and make this game a top game of all times.
But we got to be realistic, it does seems that ZoS don't have a proper staff to develop viable group finder. It also seems they can't make a good balance between stamina and magicka, different sets and abilities. They simply choose the path of nerfing and deteriorating, meanwhile focusing on new content which probably will bring more and more bugs and disbalance to the game.0 -
SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yea, the greater days of ESO still ahead.I picked the first option, but I really should have picked the last one. The game is quite healthy on the PC, NA server. I don't know about other servers or platforms, though.
According to this Steam analysis of the numbers of ESO players, the numbers have dipped a little bit in the past two months, but that's after a HUUUUUUUGE jump in numbers after they got rid of the mandatory subscription model. Overall, the game still seems very healthy.
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!The game has a lot of issues but right now it's in a much better place than release or the first year.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Indications, or player perceptions, is one thing. Hard evidence is another. With that in mind, my perception is that player numbers are just fine.Kneighbors wrote: »So right now there are already many indications to it that ESO is loosing players fast and amount of new players is minimal0 -
Wrecking_Blow_Spam✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, ESO is beyond its greatest days, we will see less and less players.How poor is the advertising for this game though?
It's literally word of mouth and recommendations to a friend.Xbox one EU
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lunawisp✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!The only people who know for sure what the population of the game is doing are Zenimax and they're not going to share that sort of information. All I can say is that the struggle to even see crafting stations through the throngs of players sometimes doesn't support your view that the game is short of players...lunawisp was my Peacebringer in City of Heroes - a game sadly consigned to history. She lives on in memory as my gaming id.Playing on EU PC Server.2 -
Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Downswing? What?PC-EU1 -
Kneighbors✭✭✭✭✭
Indications, or player perceptions, is one thing. Hard evidence is another. With that in mind, my perception is that player numbers are just fine.Kneighbors wrote: »So right now there are already many indications to it that ESO is loosing players fast and amount of new players is minimal
Look at the link that @SydneyGrey paste there:
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130
It clearly shows a huge downswing coming from November. This is exactly what I observe in game. The game is far from being dead, but for the last two months I feel less and less popularity. See less and less new players etc...
Well I'm happy for you that you don't notice this. Being naive and unnoticing isn't a bad approach to life, makes you sleep better.0 -
Dreyfron✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Not quite sure what he is on about, ESO seems to be busier than ever!0 -
Tai-Chi✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!I have no idea what the statistics say but I have not noticed any downswing.
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Tinus_92✭✭✭Kneighbors wrote: »
Indications, or player perceptions, is one thing. Hard evidence is another. With that in mind, my perception is that player numbers are just fine.Kneighbors wrote: »So right now there are already many indications to it that ESO is loosing players fast and amount of new players is minimal
Look at the link that @SydneyGrey paste there:
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130
It clearly shows a huge downswing coming from November. This is exactly what I observe in game. The game is far from being dead, but for the last two months I feel less and less popularity. See less and less new players etc...
Well I'm happy for you that you don't notice this. Being naive and unnoticing isn't a bad approach to life, makes you sleep better.
Keep in mind that a lot of ppl are playing ESO without steam. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the mayority.Ingame ID: @Suni_925 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Oh dear, another totally nonsensical "the sky is falling in" topic.
Homestead has totally altered the way that most people play the game, they use their houses in addition to wayshrines for traveling, and don't spend as much time in the cities as they used to. Even so, I haven't noticed any decline in population anywhere on the PC EU server.
As for Steam, very few players run the game through it. It wasn't available when the PC version launched, and since then we've had the two console versions with ZOS stating that the population is evenly spread between the different versions. Steam is simply an irrelevance so far as most players of this game are concerned.
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There's no need to be rude.Kneighbors wrote: »Well I'm happy for you that you don't notice this. Being naive and unnoticing isn't a bad approach to life, makes you sleep better.
I don't use Steam, so perhaps this is why my observations are what they are?Keep in mind that a lot of ppl are playing ESO without steam. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the mayority.0 -
greylox✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Tonnes of players, you need to stop the drugs.PC EU
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Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!It's 3am and there are a ton of people competing over nodes in the backest backwoods of Eastmarch.
My personal observations tell me the number of regular players is steadily growing. Probably more than Zeni anticipated, which is why the servers catch fire every other night.3 -
Bombashaman✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!What downswing?0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!
@Kneighbors there is always a spike and then downfall in MMO games.Kneighbors wrote: »Look at the link that SydneyGrey paste there:
http://steamcharts.com/app/306130
It clearly shows a huge downswing coming from November. This is exactly what I observe in game. The game is far from being dead, but for the last two months I feel less and less popularity. See less and less new players etc...
Well I'm happy for you that you don't notice this. Being naive and unnoticing isn't a bad approach to life, makes you sleep better.
Here is EVE Online: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Just because it's down trending doesn't mean it's dying, I haven't counted towards the stats most of the weekend because I was on Stellaris, I haven't closed my sub though and keep playing when I am not on other games.
Also with Morrowind less than two months away, the online users is going to spike like crazy. People are probably just using the current lull in content before that hits to relax.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭Yea, the greater days of ESO still ahead.I don't think OP played during the first year and a half of ESO's life, to see what a truly dead ESO means, a very stark contrast to what it's like now.
Every game has its ups and downs, it's normal. People jump into new content, burn it out, take a break. New content comes out - burn it out, take a break. Rinse and repeat. This cycle happens in nearly every Online game, not just MMOs. Nothing worth worrying about.
Until the next massive advertisement campaign/new content release - there will be drop-outs. You have to remember a lot of people come to just test out the game and if they don't like it, they move on. What we are left with is the true "hardcore" players that will stick with it - which IMO is far more valuable than seeing lvl 30 noobs everywhere that might drop the game at a moments' notice. It is the dedicated playerbase that remains after intial rush of new content/release/ad campaign that matters in the long term. The ones that will remain to sub, purchase goods, explore every piece of content etc. And i'm fine with that.
I much rather see far less but dedicated players than a load of casuals that will come and go. Sure the game might get a short boost of income, but it's all it is - a short boost. It's the dedicated player that sustains the game and keeps it afloat not a one-time casual.Edited by Egonieser on 10 April 2017 08:46Sometimes, I dream about...cheese...
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KimoBitz✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Kneighbors wrote: »So right now there are already many indications to it that ESO is loosing players fast and amount of new players is minimal. I myself joined the game during gold edition sale and the amount of new players was huge. And I myself playing only 10% of time I was used to play back when LFG was working. The grind is also down, my 4 trade guilds sales barelly selling now after Homestead hype is over.
So what is you opinion, do you believe Morrowind will bring a positive or a negative change? Or maybe there will be a slight positive change and then a collapse?
you're completely wrong the amount of new players joining the game is astonishing,and morrowind is yet to come.1 -
RapidUrsa✭✭✭✭Yea, the greater days of ESO still ahead.It'd be sad to say we have seen the last days of this great game!About MeXbox One - EU
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Duiwel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!OP I see new players joining this game EVERY day!
Met a German guy last night, awesome fellow.
He has 38mil in the bank, only been playing 4 months ( I feel like a scrub now ).
I have 1% of that after I started decorating my home.@Duiwel:Join ORDER OF SITHIS We're recruiting! PC EU"Dear Brother. I do not spread rumours. I create them..."2 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!ESO is doing fantastic.
One Tamriel = Amazing for ESO. Playerbase definitely increased.
Homestead = Great marketing immediately after One Tamriel since everyone loves this feature of TES. It showed great game support and gave more incentive for those not sure about joining to finally buy the game.
Morrowind = An even bigger deal than One Tamriel (by a lot). It also once again shows that this game is well-supported and many more people will begin playing ESO.
Honestly I don't feel like there has ever been a time when ESO has *gained* more players at once. ESO is doing well right now.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!Mass Effect dragged me away for a week, but I couldn't stay away with these juicy anniversary boxes.5 -
KimoBitz✭✭✭Downswing? LOL what are tou talking about? ESO popularity is booming and there's rainbows and pink horses everywhere!!!OP I see new players joining this game EVERY day!
Met a German guy last night, awesome fellow.
He has 38mil in the bank, only been playing 4 months ( I feel like a scrub now ).
I have 1% of that after I started decorating my home.
same,met a german dude a couple of months ago,we exchanged numbers over the game and we are now very close friends.1 -
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✭✭✭Kneighbors wrote: »
But we got to be realistic, it does seems that ZoS don't have a proper staff to develop viable group finder. It also seems they can't make a good balance between stamina and magicka, different sets and abilities. They simply choose the path of nerfing and deteriorating, meanwhile focusing on new content which probably will bring more and more bugs and disbalance to the game.Op getting rekt by own poll
Pretty sure this is why you have a negative view of the game's population. The vast majority of ESO players treat it like a TES game now that One Tamriel has finally delivered what 95%+ of gamers wanted from a TES MMO.
Yes, group finder sucks. Yes, end-game balance needs a lot of work (all MMOs suffer from this, just check out WoW's forums). And yes, Cyrodiil is definitely suffering right now. But population counts across PVE zones are insanely high, and this is spread across three different platforms each with two different megaservers. The game is doing great by catering to the PVE crowd, and Morrowind is doubling down on that demographic. So really, although the state of the game is influenced by the areas you play in, the population count is probably in one of the best states it's ever been in and on an upward trajectory.0