Stam sorc sets

Mattoxx96 · February 2017

I am currently a magicka sorc, running 5 burning spellweave, 3 willpower, 1 maelstrom lightning staff and 1 random inferno sharpened staff. I've been grinding at vMA and got 2 maelstrom daggers and fancy changing to a stam sorc to try it out, but i'm not sure on which sets to use.
I don't craft or know anyone that could craft me gear, i don't do pvp, i just tend to play vMA and some dungeons every now and then, and the odd trial once in a while.
The only set that I've been thinking of getting is Automaton set (farming darkshade) due to it giving physical damage abilities extra weapon dmg, i also plan on using the 2 maelstrom daggers and eventually once i get a maelstrom bow and 3 pc agility jewellery.
I am not sure what other sets would be good for my situation.

Soleya · February 2017

I use 5 Vicious Ophidian, 2 Velidreth and 5 Spriggan (with daggers) + Maelstrom Bow on my Stam Sorc.

But after Homestead patch, my stam sorc dropped 30% in dps, so my suggestion would be to stay a magicka sorc.

Note: I originally said 50% decrease and should have said 30% so I fixed that.

Mattoxx96 · February 2017

But I've seen stam sorcs still able to do massive dmg outputs in vMA

Lynx7386 · February 2017

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

I use 5 Vicious Ophidian, 2 Velidreth and 5 Spriggan (with daggers) + Maelstrom Bow on my Stam Sorc.

But after Homestead patch, my stam sorc dropped 50% in dps, so my suggestion would be to stay a magicka sorc.

Only one ability changed for stam sorc, and the hurricane nerf shouldn't be accounting for 50% of your damage

Pallio · February 2017

DW nerf, Trap nerf, and no more crit from mob set nerf....

In addition there is a bug currently that allow mobs to ignore our physical resist and our physical pen. stat is not working correctly to calculate outbound Physical dmg. ZO$ is so far continuing to ignore these bugs, or maybe they will never fix and say it is working correctly. Either way stam sux now, might get better some day, might not.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · February 2017

Pallio wrote: »

DW nerf, Trap nerf, and no more crit from mob set nerf....

In addition there is a bug currently that allow mobs to ignore our physical resist and our physical pen. stat is not working correctly to calculate outbound Physical dmg. ZO$ is so far continuing to ignore these bugs, or maybe they will never fix and say it is working correctly. Either way stam sux now, might get better some day, might not.

Lol the DW need you speak of was like 40 weapon damage. Pretty much a rounding error.

And the bug you speak of, do you have evidence for it?

Soleya · February 2017

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

I use 5 Vicious Ophidian, 2 Velidreth and 5 Spriggan (with daggers) + Maelstrom Bow on my Stam Sorc.

But after Homestead patch, my stam sorc dropped 50% in dps, so my suggestion would be to stay a magicka sorc.

Only one ability changed for stam sorc, and the hurricane nerf shouldn't be accounting for 50% of your damage

Velidreth does 900 dps instead of 2.2k it did before patch (no more crit)
Rearming Trap nerf is a 1000 dps lost on the trap itself. I also believe there is a 2% decrease in damage from Minor Force it gives.
Hurricane went from 2.9k dps to 1.8k dps.

Also I did the math wrong, it's not 50% loss. It's a 30% loss, went from 30k-32k to about 20k-22k. On the other hand my magicka dk went the other way. 24k to 30k. For some reason I was thinking 20 to 30k is a 50% increase. But it's not a 50% decrease from 30 to 20.

Pallio · February 2017

They "fixed" a bleed issue, where the mobs bleed was not ignoring physical resist like is should. It is now working correctly, so we are taking more physical dmg from bleed, as intended and published.

However, we are also taking more dmg from non-bleed physical sources and our outgoing damage is not calculating pen. stat or target resist correctly.

So, at the moment stam sux. The published fixes/nerfs in addition to the bugs, which may just be new normal and never change.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · February 2017

Mattoxx96 wrote: »

But I've seen stam sorcs still able to do massive dmg outputs in vMA

Stam Sorc certainly did not lose 30% DPS if your rotation is proper. Not even close. Stam sorcs are still monsters in VMA. Ironically, VMA weapons (other than the bow) aren't very useful in there on a stam toon. Things die too fast to benefit from the flurry buff.

The meta is pretty straight forward. If going Stam the first set I would get my hands on is night mothers. Easier to find a crafter than farm a set. Spriggans is a touch better solo, but it's garbage in a proper group. It's overkill on penetration.

The best monster set in VMA is velidreth, and in trials it's Kraghs or Stormfist. The best jewelry is Vicious ophidian for both. In trials and group stuff you want to run your VMA daggers and a monster set with 3 VO. In VMA you run 5 NIghtmothers (including sharp daggers) 2 velidreth and 5 VO for the sustain and movement speed.

Pallio · February 2017

Or, if you have not already invested in your stam gear, it would be easier and less frustrating to just go mag. Mag Sorc. got nothing but love this patch, and are not currently hindered by the new bugs...

Mattoxx96 · March 2017

I really want to try stam sorc for a bit though, I should of said that I don't do crafted builds, and I've only got the first 4 DLCs. I'm trying to buy spriggan sets with good traits through guild traders but they are quite rare and can be expensive. Are there any other sets that can increase penetration or reduce resistances.