Skyreach grind explained [2+ millions/hour]

Grabmoore · January 2017

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

@Carbonised you again ignoring important point

you CANT reach cp cap on quests
PVP IS NOT 2% of content

do not avoid it!

That's just wrong. There is enough content to reach the cap without grinding.

I understand that you are looking for a cheesy way to the top and it's definetly faster to grind.

Please just never post about nerfing content or skills for others. You will be gone from this game some day, since PvP is not good in this game. dont leave a trail of destruction for us people who actually play the game... Thanks

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

Grabmoore wrote: »

There is enough content to reach the cap without grinding.

pls stop lie
there is content only for 160cp max

all above you need grind
if you finish al quests it will give you 50 lvl and nar 100cp

stop argue about thing you didnt know
or just stop lie

AlnilamE · January 2017

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

There is enough content to reach the cap without grinding.

pls stop lie
there is content only for 160cp max

all above you need grind
if you finish al quests it will give you 50 lvl and nar 100cp

stop argue about thing you didnt know
or just stop lie

I'm at 712 CP and I don't "grind". I only finished the quests on one character so far, but I do several different things with my game time (including finishing all the Craglorn content).

SirAndy · January 2017

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

pls stop lie
there is content only for 160cp max

all above you need grind
if you finish al quests it will give you 50 lvl and nar 100cp

stop argue about thing you didnt know
or just stop lie

I call BS on that one ...

You can easily get to the CP500+ without any grinding. I did it and so can you ...

DangerMan · January 2017

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

its instanced, man

Royaji wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

Skyreach is instanced, so that's an exception. But ZOS might nerf it if too many people will start farming there.

@EnviousStruggle @Royaji I meant ZOS would nerf it. They've done it to pretty much every single effective grind spot in the past, instanced or otherwise. Remember first room of Wayrest?

Riejael · January 2017

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

Some people derive enjoyment from the planning of the most efficient routes possible to achieve a goal. To them, the enjoyment comes from the actual testing, planning, and theory behind the attempt, not the execution.

What you just said is those people who do speed runs in vintage/modern games are ruining the experience for themselves by not busting every block or exploring every room.

You've also displayed your lack of knowledge being sufficient enough to not even be able to adequately engage in the discussion. Otherwise you would have known that questing and 'enjoying the MMO' as you called it, wouldn't be sufficient enough to reach the goal of 561. There is a content gap that requires this sort of measure to continue.

I'll assume you recanted your statement for the benefit of the doubt. Unless you'd like to post a questing guide that ensures the player 'smells the roses' as they play and attains the goal of 561cp.

Kildayen · January 2017

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

grind for well geared/well setuped heroes
try to build best party
ie stam sorc+stamplar is one of the best imo

regular time of each run if everything perfect - 5 min
each run with ONLY non-myth ambrosia and full training gear and ESO+ getting me 170-200k exp
and best thing its instanced and free for all - not DLC

all other info at the picture i made
if you have any other questions feel free to ask

While it is nice for people to have this info, you have probably just ruined it for everyone. Your name will go down as the "Player Who Got Skyreach Nerfed".

RIP, Skyreach. It was nice knowing you. I will now have to find another place to get max level in under 6 hours...

Katahdin · January 2017

CP 690 here and I have never done any grinding for XP ever

Etienne_et_Isabeau · January 2017

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

Different people enjoy playing the game differently. For some, actually mapping out a dungeon and finding the easiest path might be fun. I understand it probably isn't for everyone, but some may find it enjoyable.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2017

Royaji wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

Skyreach is instanced, so that's an exception. But ZOS might nerf it if too many people will start farming there.

It has already been nerfed a few times. A cooldown on the chest, even if you reset the instance has magically appeared.

NordSwordnBoard · January 2017

@EnviousStruggle looks like you shot yourself in the foot. If it got nerfed, it was because of you. Lesson learned?

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

@Yolokin_Swagonborn
no
no cooldowns checked today

Marabornwingrion · January 2017

What a clickbait! I thought those 2 millions in the title are about gold

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

@NordSwordnBoard
what lesson?
i did good things

disintegr8 · January 2017

Why the need to grind, just play the game, do the quests and the story line and you will progress quickly enough. Anyone who feels they must farm XP, because it is too much of a grind otherwise, obviously does not enjoy most of the game.

With the removal of Vet ranks, introduction of 'enlightenment', 1T, training gear and other regular 'festivals', leveling up has never been easier. When I started we had to level each character to gear cap separately and could not go into another alliances areas until we were Vet 1.

Plenty of us completed Cadwells silver and gold on their way to Vet 16. When Vet ranks were removed I had characters spread out between Vet 10 and Vet16. I would hate to imagine the outcry if you had to level each new character from CP10 to CP160 today.

skiptomyluau · January 2017

I'm only CP 210 but there are entire zones I haven't even messed with aside from cadwells silver and gold quests. Closest zone i have to fully completing is glenmura

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

if you know better grind spots let me know

mumsspaghetti · January 2017

You guys know fengrush made a video on this spot a while ago? Zos already knew about it long before this post was made

Saucy_Jack · January 2017

So here's a question for the people complaining about this being posted:

It's obviously common enough knowledge that all of you guys knew about it; it's not like it was some giant secret. So where/who did YOU learn it from? The public, totally-viewable-by-everyone Fengrush vid?

Woeler · January 2017

Grinded 1 to 50 in one evening with the 150% xp pot.

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

who wanna join me? pc na

leothedino · January 2017

Woah, and here's me levelling a fourth character with quests like some kind of vanilla idiot, doing it exactly as intended, getting skyshards, skillpoints from quests and making about 100k gold in the process. Don't I feel stupid -_-

Cadbury · January 2017

Meh. Like someone posted above, Fengrush already did a video about this. Even Alcast has a vid explaining it. But better late than never, I guess

Cadbury · January 2017

leothedino wrote: »

Woah, and here's me levelling a fourth character with quests like some kind of vanilla idiot, doing it exactly as intended, getting skyshards, skillpoints from quests and making about 100k gold in the process. Don't I feel stupid -_-

That's why I'm counting the days until we can buy maxed CP characters in the Crown Store. It will be glorious

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

i dont get it why low levels trying to invite me for that grind but they cannot survive there

MLGProPlayer · January 2017

Carbonised wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

I do not believe there is enough content to reach CP561 without repetition. For players with competitive raids or PVP in mind, maxing CP is extremely important.

This is especially true for PVP-focused players who return from breaks or play intermittently and want to achieve competitive parity ASAP. Most of the PVP players I know do not enjoy PVE at all.

That's a real pity. And I suppose posts like this one serve as a reminder to me exactly how narrow a view some people have of this game, which never ceases to surprise me.

By all means, it's a free game, you're allowed to play only 2 % of the content and replay that 2 % till your eyes bleed if that's your thing, it just seems rather shallow to me.

As for content, the game has plenty of content. Before 1 Tam, my character got from level 1 to CP 160 by doing the 3 alliance zones, all quests, no grinding at all. Moving on from there, I did some daily dungeon pledges and DLC zones, and hit the old CP cap rather quickly. No ambrosia, no training equipment, no nothing.
So the content is definitely there, but you are, however, free to ignore it and simply grind Skyreach for days on end.

Playing a game is not always about reaching the goal, the ceiling or the max - it is in many ways also about enjoying the process and the road that takes you to the destination. Hence my small quib about intrinsic motivation (spontaneous, originating from the individual), and entrinsic motivation (calculated, originating externally, goal oriented).

Wait, so you went from CP 160 to 561 in 3.5 months without grinding? Or am I reading that wrong?

gard · January 2017

Nerf incoming. Thanks for screwing it up for everyone.

EnviousStruggle · January 2017

gard wrote: »

Nerf incoming. Thanks for screwing it up for everyone.

you welcome

Own · January 2017

Destyran wrote: »

Ehy would you post this online? Its people like you who ruin things for everyone.

Lol what? It's instanced, ZoS and a *** of people know about this already.. He's helping people

NoFlash · January 2017

I got from cp 290ish to cp 530 during new life. All I did was this. Learned it like the back of my hand lol. Was too burnt out to finish at 561