These are my reasons why PvP 1vxing is beyond dead

brtomkin · December 2016

Malamar1229 wrote: »

... maybe gate certain weapons for use by players of certain pvp rank.

I'm a big fan of awarding weapons for PVP that can compete with the Master and Maelstrom weapons. But, it shouldn't be tied solely to AP or alliance rank - I don't think it would be healthy for the game if AP farming actually gave you anything valuable (other than titles and dyes).

K4RMA · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

Spliffo wrote: »

People still 1vX. Maybe you just lack the skill required to pull it off

Yeah, maybe if they are geared exactly as I just described. Otherwise you cannot really convince me that this is a skill issue. They are probably wearing heavy armor otherwise they will die in 4 hits. How many people do you actually know that can 1vx in medium/light armor?

The reason I say this is because I kept running into this one player that was using heavy armor, black rose, viper, selene, and he would resist all of my damage and then kill me in under 2 seconds. I don't understand how we can talk about player skill at this point. Why else do you think people play the cheesiest characters in street fighter games or hug windows in battle field?

@Feedinginsanity i 1vX on a light armor magicka dk, so therefore ur point is invalid

CeeJonesy · December 2016

1vx regularly on a med armor stam nightblade with 0 procs (5 air, 5 senche, 1 kena) and a light armor mag sorc. It is still possible but for sure a bit harder with proc sets and the bigger groups. I enjoy the challenge though and I'm using this as an excuse to get better rather than complaining that it can't be done.

I wouldn't consider myself a good player however as there are many on xbox eu who wreck me every time but I would prefer to fight at a disadvantage and enjoy myself than to fight in a 24 man all the time and roll over people without even paying attention (that said, I have been running a 6 man when not solo just because it still offers a challenge. Or at least myself and my group think so).

Sheuib · December 2016

I think some of the 1vXers are just using some third party program like cheat engine.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

@Giles.floydub17_ESO If you cannot bother reading my entire post then just stop commenting on this thread.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

It is impossible to balance the game with CP. As long as you have champion points you will never balance this game. Yes, there are other reasons but CP is the foundation of the classes being unbalanced.

@Malamar1229 I don't see any point in adding more alliance war ranks. If you go to scourge PS4 NA you will see people ending the campaign with 30-40 million AP. Then, they do that for 2 months and become Grand Warlord

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

@K4RMA I'm not impressed by any means because you are obviously using the destruction staff ultimate and Grothdar. Other than that I don't believe you simply because all Magicka builds are not viable in light armor without using something that is broken.

@CeeJonesy You just described what 1vxing really is. It is only possible to 1vx bad players, otherwise if there is even 1 good player that is using a cancer build then your plans will fail.

Rilmarshim · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

@CeeJonesy You just described what 1vxing really is. It is only possible to 1vx bad players, otherwise if there is even 1 good player that is using a cancer build then your plans will fail.

Where is my LOL button?

CeeJonesy · December 2016

@CeeJonesy You just described what 1vxing really is. It is only possible to 1vx bad players, otherwise if there is even 1 good player that is using a cancer build then your plans will fail.

Got to say I never mentioned cancer builds... most of the people who wreck me don't run them and in my opinion just like everything else these proc sets and eots builds can be countered once you learn how to deal with them. (for example eots I try to use my shade to teleport away, confuses 99% of these people who rely on it. For like a tremorscale build just dodge roll or be ready to burst heal and hit shuffle..).

They are annoying but it's not the good players abusing them on Xbox EU (for the most part). It's the terrible people who rely on it as burst. People who are no problem once you have fought a few of them.

CatchMeTrolling · December 2016

You can't play in light armor? Looool manage to play in light on a magplar and a magblade without a self heal this meta, neither has a proc set or monster piece.

Not going to get many people backing you when you come with the "I can't do it so no one else can do it " attitude.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

@CatchMeTrolling Provide proof of this. I want to see actual footage of you not dying in 2 seconds wearing light armor.

@CeeJonesy You make absolutely no sense when you just stated of how many people wreck you without proc sets, then tell me you got to learn how to counter them. You have no right to come on here and talk about 1vxing not being dead because you do it, but then you openly admit that you are a garbage player, and on top of that you also state that you can 1vx in these proc set conditions that we are in.

@Dr_Talos You don't get to have an LOL button. This guy doesn't have a solid arguement on why 1vxing is still viable, therefore, you get no LOL button.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

You can't play in light armor? Looool manage to play in light on a magplar and a magblade without a self heal this meta, neither has a proc set or monster piece.

Not going to get many people backing you when you come with the "I can't do it so no one else can do it " attitude.

Hold on a second, you're telling me you can't even heal yourself in light armor, and then you aren't using something that is broken to do damage? Do you have any idea how small the population of people playing a magikca nightblade is in Cyrodiil? I would like to say 100% of the people that use that class run heavy with a destruction staff ultimate and grothdarr.

I do not believe you at all. I have dueled many magicka templars in light armor and I can tell you that their health bar drops in like 2 seconds, then you're telling me you can 1vx? The number one rule in this game is that it is impossible to avoid damage, which exists in every single MMO out there. If you can't mitigate damage then you will die.

SRASinister · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

You can't play in light armor? Looool manage to play in light on a magplar and a magblade without a self heal this meta, neither has a proc set or monster piece.

Not going to get many people backing you when you come with the "I can't do it so no one else can do it " attitude.

Hold on a second, you're telling me you can't even heal yourself in light armor, and then you aren't using something that is broken to do damage? Do you have any idea how small the population of people playing a magikca nightblade is in Cyrodiil? I would like to say 100% of the people that use that class run heavy with a destruction staff ultimate and grothdarr.

I do not believe you at all. I have dueled many magicka templars in light armor and I can tell you that their health bar drops in like 2 seconds, then you're telling me you can 1vx? The number one rule in this game is that it is impossible to avoid damage, which exists in every single MMO out there. If you can't mitigate damage then you will die.

I play magblade with light armor and no cloak in cyrodiil and 1vx. I don't use a proc set or the destro ult when I run solo. Sure I'll get killed by a cancer ganker, but I still would in heavy. I've played enough against proc builds to expect the rotation and their resources to be able to time everything. It's a challenge, but it's fun when it succeeds though some days it gets frustrating. Poisons are really my biggest downfall tbh.

K4RMA · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

@K4RMA I'm not impressed by any means because you are obviously using the destruction staff ultimate and Grothdar. Other than that I don't believe you simply because all Magicka builds are not viable in light armor without using something that is broken.

@Feedinginsanity 5/1/1 light armor, double sword and board with bloodspawn and bats/meteor. You were saying?

CeeJonesy · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

@CeeJonesy You make absolutely no sense when you just stated of how many people wreck you without proc sets, then tell me you got to learn how to counter them. You have no right to come on here and talk about 1vxing not being dead because you do it, but then you openly admit that you are a garbage player, and on top of that you also state that you can 1vx in these proc set conditions that we are in.

I say that good players on my server tend not to use proc sets and are strong regardless. These are the sort of players who wreck most people, myself included.

As a few others in this thread have pointed out you just like to make excuses for your own lack of skill and cry on the forum rather than learn how to deal with people abusing the flavour of the month. Proc sets make up for a lack of skill in some respect due to the amount of burst they are capable of yes but that burst is predictable in most cases and can be dealt with if you have fought a few people using them.

Saying I'm not amazing doesn't mean I'm a garbage player. I only say that because I recognize there are better players out there and probably worse who can also 1vX in this update. Just because you are bad doesn't mean certain aspects of the game are dead.

CatchMeTrolling · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

You can't play in light armor? Looool manage to play in light on a magplar and a magblade without a self heal this meta, neither has a proc set or monster piece.

Not going to get many people backing you when you come with the "I can't do it so no one else can do it " attitude.

Hold on a second, you're telling me you can't even heal yourself in light armor, and then you aren't using something that is broken to do damage? Do you have any idea how small the population of people playing a magikca nightblade is in Cyrodiil? I would like to say 100% of the people that use that class run heavy with a destruction staff ultimate and grothdarr.

I do not believe you at all. I have dueled many magicka templars in light armor and I can tell you that their health bar drops in like 2 seconds, then you're telling me you can 1vx? The number one rule in this game is that it is impossible to avoid damage, which exists in every single MMO out there. If you can't mitigate damage then you will die.

Yeah you're not helping the ps4 rep at all.

Rilmarshim · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

@Dr_Talos You don't get to have an LOL button. This guy doesn't have a solid arguement on why 1vxing is still viable, therefore, you get no LOL button.

Just listen to yourself. If you got killed by multiple opponents and some of them are good players that's just because they use cancer builds? Man, this is ridiculous.
Now give me my LOL button, I realy need it for this thread.

Zander98 · December 2016

Ok....so as far as I can tell this is a buff sorc thread?
Couldn't agree more! 1vXing totally impossible now. Buff sorc...please?....

thankyourat · December 2016

Feedinginsanity wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

You can't play in light armor? Looool manage to play in light on a magplar and a magblade without a self heal this meta, neither has a proc set or monster piece.

Not going to get many people backing you when you come with the "I can't do it so no one else can do it " attitude.

Hold on a second, you're telling me you can't even heal yourself in light armor, and then you aren't using something that is broken to do damage? Do you have any idea how small the population of people playing a magikca nightblade is in Cyrodiil? I would like to say 100% of the people that use that class run heavy with a destruction staff ultimate and grothdarr.

I do not believe you at all. I have dueled many magicka templars in light armor and I can tell you that their health bar drops in like 2 seconds, then you're telling me you can 1vx? The number one rule in this game is that it is impossible to avoid damage, which exists in every single MMO out there. If you can't mitigate damage then you will die.

The problem is you have the mentality of If I can't do it then it's impossible. I play solo magblade in light armor all the time no cloak and I only use the destro ultimate if I'm playing in a group. And I still get quality 1vX's you can avoid damage you just have to learn to kite if you are just standing in one spot you will get wrecked.

Ganj · December 2016

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On the other hand i mostly agree with what you said there. Game wasnt that much skill friendly back then but now its completely in horrible situation. I dont think they will ever balance this PvP anymore. With every patch they killed skillful PvP option one by one. They literally removed almost every counter in the game, they put the horrible proc sets which make game so easy even for a sheep. People are furious and toxic in PvP zones. Im not even mentioning dueling, its complete disaster aswell. Beside huge map Cyrodiil, people in Imperial City trying to zerg, i have no idea how they can actually enjoy. I dont know about NA so much but in EU i can pretty much confirm that solo play is dead. I believe most of the solo players waiting for the next update with a tiny bit hope so maybe developers or someone maybe fix at least core things. But in my opinion i dont think PvP will be fun for solo players anymore since Zenimax embrace zerging mentality for real.

Funny thing is when ever someone makes a topic about "1vX dead" lots of people show up and claim like "its not dead, im doing everyday, i just did 1vX, oh i 1vX always" and yet literally i saw 1-2 people at most who actually does that, others generally at least in 4-5 men group or literally zerging.

Rilmarshim · December 2016

They all just using cancer builds and kill 1xVers very fast.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

I will comment one more time on this thread by saying that I found a bug where I can heal people while they are dueling. I don't know if it's just me but I think my heals ignore the battle spirit debuff so I can heal like 12k honor the deads.

Long story short here I am all day long just trolling people by spamming it on them while they duel, it is so hilarious. Now with some of these duels I can't even keep some people alive because they die in like 2 seconds. They are all wearing impenetrable PvE gear, and a lot of the ones that died so quickly were wearing light and medium armor because they couldn't mitigate damage that well. My point is you are going to sit here and tell me that you are still viable in light and medium armor when I am sitting here trying to heal them through the damage, which by the way this shows just how wrong those of you are when you tell me you won't die in 2 seconds. How dare you tell me that light and medium armor is still viable.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

N/A

Rilmarshim · December 2016

Okay, dude, we all already uderstood how awesome you are. You cant don't bother yourself by listing of all your achievements to plebs like us.

Solidsnake993 · December 2016

@Dr_Talos They ask you how you are and you just have to say that your fine when you're not really fine but you just can't get into it because they would never understand.

a1i3nz · December 2016

1vX is alive until #X comes in with a blazing shield or EoTS

That's right....you're to blame #X

SRASinister · December 2016

a1i3n0ct0pu5 wrote: »

1vX is alive until #X comes in with a blazing shield or EoTS

That's right....you're to blame #X

Lol 100% true since you have been my #X with the EoTS before alien.