is there a way to change our guild name?

Gilvoth · December 2016

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bulbousb16_ESO · December 2016

There's a new mod in town...

Gilvoth · December 2016

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SirAndy · December 2016

There is an AddOn that alerts you when other players are nearby and stealthed.
It also alerts them when you charge an attack from stealth so they can dodge/block/reflect in time.

FortheloveofKrist · December 2016

Addon + stealth detect pots = Switch to console

Sanguine · December 2016

Miat's PvP Alerts was recently introduced to the addon market. Some of it's features were kindly outlined by Jessica, below.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Miat’s PVP Alerts addon is built upon actions done by players that the combat log records. This includes sprinting, casting an ability, weapon swapping, drinking a potion, stealthing, etc. If a player executes any of those actions, basic messages are sent to the server and clients. This mod hooks into those notifications and filters them to give information about who is in the area. That info is then turned into either a KOS list determined by the player, a stealthier list, or simply an incremental value of players in the area (all are a rough estimation.)

The KOS list, specifically, is simply another layer on top of the above options, where the addon looks for specific players that you can choose to add to a list. When those players perform an action within your existing area of detection, you will be notified that they are in the area. You are not provided info on exactly where they are. Here are a few specific examples:
If someone is in your existing area of detection and they fully enter stealth, the addon will notify you of the name of the player character that successfully went fully “hidden.”

If someone is already stealthed and you’re traveling near then, or enter the area they were initially already stealthed in, you will not be notified of that player.

If someone uses a Nightblade ability that results in them vanishing, they will not trigger the addon’s alert unless they enter the real “hidden” state (i.e. the eye on the HUD is closed).

Lastly this addon adds a kill spam list which shows you when someone has died in your existing area of detection, and to what ability. When you first get these messages, it simply says “Someone has died to Dark Flare.” When you start to get more information on the players around you, it adds that player name to the Saved Variables file for PVPAlerts.lua, then starts to add that information into your UI while playing.

Personally, I don't like the addon, but I hear many people have been using it. Not too sure if it's the cause of your issue, but it's possible that people are being notified of you doing something while stealthed and they either start looking for you or use a stealth detection potion.

mb10 · December 2016

Welcome to PVP on PC.

Console is a healthy alternative.

Malamar1229 · December 2016

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

GreenSoup2HoT · December 2016

Malamar1229 wrote: »

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

Detect potions brother! I have a stack of potions ready to go for when i ever see a nightblade go hidden near me.

Malamar1229 · December 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

Detect potions brother! I have a stack of potions ready to go for when i ever see a nightblade go hidden near me.

no.

im talking about my already being stealthed and players drifting off from their zerg and running right to where I am.

Lylith · December 2016

Malamar1229 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

Detect potions brother! I have a stack of potions ready to go for when i ever see a nightblade go hidden near me.

no.

im talking about my already being stealthed and players drifting off from their zerg and running right to where I am.

happened to me a number of times, before this addon was introduced.

eta: wasn't on my nb's, fwiw.

Phinix1 · December 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

sorcerers have massive shields to protect them.
templars have thier heals to protect them
dragonights have thier tank abilities to protect them and heals out of any damage
but us nightblades only have our stealth to protect us.
our shields are stealth and invisibility, but zenimax allows us to not have it stable and not allow us to stay hidden. mass amounts of things allow us to be removed from stealth.
i HATE IT

I always thought of NB protection as "the best defense is a good offense." NB protect themselves by getting the jump on people and bursting them down before they can react. Stamina NB certainly.

Magicka NB also does burst damage better than other classes, but they have a sort of faux shield thing going too where they can actively heal while damaging through siphons, which lets them keep the pressure on while tanking damage .

Maybe not as strong as Sorc shields but I've seen magicka NB builds with Malubeth tank an incredible amount of damage and still kill people while doing it.

NB also has other tools like shades which can quickly drain stamina on block tanks. I guess the point is all classes have their strengths and weaknesses and unique playstyle.

That said, it would be pretty cool if there was some sort of anti-invisibility detection poison that would make it impossible for someone to benefit from "reveal stealth" type abilities.

idk · December 2016

SirAndy wrote: »

There is an AddOn that alerts you when other players are nearby and stealthed.
It also alerts them when you charge an attack from stealth so they can dodge/block/reflect in time.

I do not think the addon tells them where a stealthed player is, only if they are in the area and only if they have had the player in their cross hairs before.

Rohamad_Ali · December 2016

When a normally private addon goes public it's usually because a better one exists .

FriedEggSandwich · December 2016

It sucks big time but this isn't the first time there have been game-breaking exploits in the game. This too will pass.

Malamar1229 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

Detect potions brother! I have a stack of potions ready to go for when i ever see a nightblade go hidden near me.

no.

im talking about my already being stealthed and players drifting off from their zerg and running right to where I am.

Not saying that consoles don't have the possibility for cheaters, but there are other more plausible explanations for that. The main one I'm thinking about is the red particle effect from cloak; it can be seen whenever the user casts cloak even if they don't become visible themselves. I have found NBs by just going to the last place I saw the red particle effect and using a detect pot.

geonsocal · December 2016

Malamar1229 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

Detect potions brother! I have a stack of potions ready to go for when i ever see a nightblade go hidden near me.

no.

im talking about my already being stealthed and players drifting off from their zerg and running right to where I am.

I have a NB and I know where I like to "hangout" and watch people from (particularly rocks with good vantage points)...a lot of times during a battle - i'll head to those kind of spots to do a little "fishing"...

Sigtric · December 2016

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

There's a new mod in town...

That does not show where anyone is

Jemcrystal · December 2016

I do not play as a Nightblade. I love addons. I do not use this addon but if it does what all you say it needs a polite ban. Polite because I don't want to discourage addon makers. I agree that stealth should truly not be seen. I also do not have a problem with increasing the Nightblade's stealth timer. ZOS should investigate this. Good point OP.

Glurin · December 2016

I was aware of this addon, but I was not aware that it gave that kind of information. Frankly it sounds like cheating to me. Not "almost" cheating or "close to" cheating or "walking a fine line". Outright cheating.

That's my opinion anyway.

dsalter · December 2016

Glurin wrote: »

I was aware of this addon, but I was not aware that it gave that kind of information. Frankly it sounds like cheating to me. Not "almost" cheating or "close to" cheating or "walking a fine line". Outright cheating.

That's my opinion anyway.

agreed. it's giving them info about some things they never even saw happen and even gives the more experienced players a heads up they are being stealth watched.

Koensol · December 2016

I don't use the addon. But I have to say I have experienced this from the other side, where I suddenly see someone pop out of stealth, thinking they are still in stealth, even outside of my detection zone.

FriedEggSandwich · December 2016

This thread might help: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/310499/gankers-counter-the-miats-addon-dont-just-be-a-victim

Sheezabeast · December 2016

Zos publically gave the OK on it, condoning this add-on, and until it is declared a cheat by them for a new reason, its gonna be around for a while. Better stock up on detect pots.

lohworm · December 2016

Hello,

Is the thread title correct ?
I thought the PVP Alert add-on only count hidden people standing around ?

Knootewoot · December 2016

lohworm wrote: »

Hello,

Is the thread title correct ?
I thought the PVP Alert add-on only count hidden people standing around ?

Who sais it is this addon? Maybe there is a new one privately used. Nobody would know except the creator. I would not be surprised some smart kid made an addon which works like a wall-hack. Just like information of incoming projectiles, when to dodge, cleanse or how many stealthy players are around there is probably also information from the API which has to positions of the players.

I really would not be surprised.

Enslaved · December 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

sorcerers have massive shields to protect them.
templars have thier heals to protect them
dragonights have thier tank abilities to protect them and heals out of any damage
but us nightblades only have our stealth to protect us.
our shields are stealth and invisibility, but zenimax allows us to not have it stable and not allow us to stay hidden. mass amounts of things allow us to be removed from stealth.
i HATE IT

Whenever you get in or out of stealth, they get info, even if NPC spotted you. Whenever you try heavy attack/snipe/ambush, they get a notification and block. They also see your name and faction when nearby, no matter if you are in stealth and not doing anything. And Zos didn't ban that bs yet.

Vaoh · December 2016

mb10 wrote: »

Welcome to PVP on PC.

Console is a healthy alternative.

I wouldn't call it a "healthy" alternative.

Smaller population (PS4 NA: 1 campaign usually poplocked, with a 2nd having a few bars of population for a few days a month during Emp/Dethrone pushes) and 5-10FPS fights with lag isn't very healthy imo.

bebynnag · December 2016

Malamar1229 wrote: »

i largely olay on PC but I have a stamblade on xb1. I can tell you tbis, theres something fishy going on in Cyrodiil on the xb1. There are instances where I am stealthed behind a rock or trees, and somehow certain players know exactly where I am.

were there any un-friendlies around?
as in people who are your on your alliance, but helping the other aliance?

Etaniel · December 2016

Knootewoot wrote: »

lohworm wrote: »

Hello,

Is the thread title correct ?
I thought the PVP Alert add-on only count hidden people standing around ?

Who sais it is this addon? Maybe there is a new one privately used. Nobody would know except the creator. I would not be surprised some smart kid made an addon which works like a wall-hack. Just like information of incoming projectiles, when to dodge, cleanse or how many stealthy players are around there is probably also information from the API which has to positions of the players.

I really would not be surprised.

Sigh, no there's no such thing. You can't make a wallhack using the api.
That addon doen't give the precise location of someone, in fact, when the addon says someone is in stealth around you, the covered area is huge and there's no way to know aside from a wild guess where that stealther is.

OP, you probably went into stealth in plain sight where someone saw you enter stealth. Or they saw someone behind you, or a node or whatever, but the controversive addon is not responsible.

Gilvoth · December 2016

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

There's a new mod in town...

i am not talking about an add-on

Recremen · December 2016

Are people hitting you with AoE attacks? That pulls you out of stealth, and is the number one way I check for stealthers in typical areas of a keep. Only way to fight that is to stay mobile and hope for the best.