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The Issue with Soul Assault
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »People act like 5k vigor ticks are hard to get. Stam healing is broken AF and SA actually does enough dmg to counter a mending/vitality vigor tick, but not by much. STamplars can cleanse, right? Stam sorcs can los faster then any class, right? NB can cloak, right? Only one i see having an issue would be DKs as usual but mending/vitality pots in heavy rocking SnB might be able to block thru it. Now if you get outplayed into a situation that's on you.
Oh I just love to hear the responses from the magicka community. Asinine as always I see. First I see people comparing the power of the destro ult to Dawnbreaker, and now stamina is getting 5k tics in PvP lol. I think ZOS needs to get rid of the PTS, and hire their own testing staff, because quite frankly the magicka community has done nothing but harm the balance of this game with their delusions, and incorrect feedback.
Not saying you're wrong about the PTS staff, but if your special snowflake build isnt getting the healing, which is meta right now btw strong recovery from dmg and proc stacking dmg, you're doing it wrong.
Name one magika skill that heals like vigor that everyone can use? Seriously if you know don't hold out.
Rapid Regen + Healing Ward beats vigor + Rally any day.
And also requires a resto staff. Yuck.
Also, healing ward gets stolen by any nearby potato that's hurt as bad as you. It's only dependable solo.
Can we do that to rally too please?
Yeah yuk, I hate being OP too.1 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for the current pro Stamina proc gear meta.Strider_Roshin wrote: »People act like 5k vigor ticks are hard to get. Stam healing is broken AF and SA actually does enough dmg to counter a mending/vitality vigor tick, but not by much. STamplars can cleanse, right? Stam sorcs can los faster then any class, right? NB can cloak, right? Only one i see having an issue would be DKs as usual but mending/vitality pots in heavy rocking SnB might be able to block thru it. Now if you get outplayed into a situation that's on you.
Oh I just love to hear the responses from the magicka community. Asinine as always I see. First I see people comparing the power of the destro ult to Dawnbreaker, and now stamina is getting 5k tics in PvP lol. I think ZOS needs to get rid of the PTS, and hire their own testing staff, because quite frankly the magicka community has done nothing but harm the balance of this game with their delusions, and incorrect feedback.
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for the current Stamina snare/root/stun meta.
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for Champion System boons like Unchained.
Stop crying about Soul Assault, it's a *** Ultimate that only really works when you are zerged down and in that case any Ultimate works just fine.
Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling, yet dodge rolling is more expensive, and the magicka community still cries about dodge rolling.
Magicka has more powerful heals, yet they cry about an inferior heal called vigor.
Magicka cries about gear imbalance, and yet Rattlecage is far superior to Dreugh King Slayer.
Magicka cries about about Incap, and Dawnbreaker; even though they ridiculously more powerful ultimates such as Soul Assault, and the Destro Ult.
Magicka cries about proc sets (rightfully so), but have been using proc sets such as Skoria long before stamina had them, and still uses them. (hypocritical much?)
The magicka community is comparable to a spoiled brat child that cries every time their sibling gets a new toy.
This game will never be balanced as long as the developers continue to listen to the hormonal magicka community. Unfortunately magicka is the majority, and the most vocal which is why the destro ult was buffed, wrecking blow was nerfed, and bone shield is still useless.
I kind of miss Paul Sage. When the magicka community whined to him back in the day he stated on an episode of ESO live that there are some people that will always ask for buffs no matter how strong they are. I miss that kind of backbone in the dev team. We need someone to tell the spoiled magicka brats "No".
Goes further than that, they cried about perma rollers so they nerfed it now that medium armor users are forced to use shuffle they still cry.
They cried about perma blockers now they get nerfed,( oh btw the perma blockers were block casting MAGICKA dks lmao)
When Zos balances shields all they do is lower the duration, they STILL stack STILL give crit immunity, STILL can be refreshed oh and they gave every class a "harden ward" so sorcs have 3 legit shields OH THE HORROR!
They cried about wrecking blow and now it got nerfed, cried that the 2h ulti is OP and destro is weak but the opposite is true.
They cry about stam based proc sets while ignoring their own proc sets which have been around for a while and we got ours in a recent patch,
They cry about vigor heals yet ignore the countless magicka scaling class heals they have which doen't require them to farm AP to unlock and is vastly superior to just two skills one of them requires a 2h.
Stamina based builds have been neglected pre 1.5 now that Zos is trying to add build diversity and getting everone out of a dress wears stick build they lose their minds being challenged,
Magicka>>>>>>Stamina Always, Superior heals, Superior utility skills, Superior dmg from range remebrt which group got a set that can blow up a zerg
All in all if they had their way we would have perma bat vanp DKs and Sorcs all over again.
Do you play on PS4?
Yes I do now.
I'm starting to think that the mechanics on PS4 are quite different from those on Xbox and PC. Currently on PC NA, magicka classes are weaker than stam ones (except templars).
I think we sould ask ZoS about this.
PS4 has no macros that allow people to animation cancel (and land) three attacks simultaneously on a crit rush for the instant proc kill.
Where do I sign up?
Lol no, we just have more talented magicka players.1 -
Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »People act like 5k vigor ticks are hard to get. Stam healing is broken AF and SA actually does enough dmg to counter a mending/vitality vigor tick, but not by much. STamplars can cleanse, right? Stam sorcs can los faster then any class, right? NB can cloak, right? Only one i see having an issue would be DKs as usual but mending/vitality pots in heavy rocking SnB might be able to block thru it. Now if you get outplayed into a situation that's on you.
Oh I just love to hear the responses from the magicka community. Asinine as always I see. First I see people comparing the power of the destro ult to Dawnbreaker, and now stamina is getting 5k tics in PvP lol. I think ZOS needs to get rid of the PTS, and hire their own testing staff, because quite frankly the magicka community has done nothing but harm the balance of this game with their delusions, and incorrect feedback.
Not saying you're wrong about the PTS staff, but if your special snowflake build isnt getting the healing, which is meta right now btw strong recovery from dmg and proc stacking dmg, you're doing it wrong.
Name one magika skill that heals like vigor that everyone can use? Seriously if you know don't hold out.
Rapid Regen + Healing Ward beats vigor + Rally any day.
And also requires a resto staff. Yuck.
Also, healing ward gets stolen by any nearby potato that's hurt as bad as you. It's only dependable solo.
Can we do that to rally too please?
Sure as long as you can survive 25 secs into a fight after using rally to get a decent heal.Edited by Anti_Virus on 8 November 2016 19:51Power Wealth And Influence.1 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for the current pro Stamina proc gear meta.Strider_Roshin wrote: »People act like 5k vigor ticks are hard to get. Stam healing is broken AF and SA actually does enough dmg to counter a mending/vitality vigor tick, but not by much. STamplars can cleanse, right? Stam sorcs can los faster then any class, right? NB can cloak, right? Only one i see having an issue would be DKs as usual but mending/vitality pots in heavy rocking SnB might be able to block thru it. Now if you get outplayed into a situation that's on you.
Oh I just love to hear the responses from the magicka community. Asinine as always I see. First I see people comparing the power of the destro ult to Dawnbreaker, and now stamina is getting 5k tics in PvP lol. I think ZOS needs to get rid of the PTS, and hire their own testing staff, because quite frankly the magicka community has done nothing but harm the balance of this game with their delusions, and incorrect feedback.
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for the current Stamina snare/root/stun meta.
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for Champion System boons like Unchained.
Stop crying about Soul Assault, it's a *** Ultimate that only really works when you are zerged down and in that case any Ultimate works just fine.
Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling, yet dodge rolling is more expensive, and the magicka community still cries about dodge rolling.
Magicka has more powerful heals, yet they cry about an inferior heal called vigor.
Magicka cries about gear imbalance, and yet Rattlecage is far superior to Dreugh King Slayer.
Magicka cries about about Incap, and Dawnbreaker; even though they ridiculously more powerful ultimates such as Soul Assault, and the Destro Ult.
Magicka cries about proc sets (rightfully so), but have been using proc sets such as Skoria long before stamina had them, and still uses them. (hypocritical much?)
The magicka community is comparable to a spoiled brat child that cries every time their sibling gets a new toy.
This game will never be balanced as long as the developers continue to listen to the hormonal magicka community. Unfortunately magicka is the majority, and the most vocal which is why the destro ult was buffed, wrecking blow was nerfed, and bone shield is still useless.
I kind of miss Paul Sage. When the magicka community whined to him back in the day he stated on an episode of ESO live that there are some people that will always ask for buffs no matter how strong they are. I miss that kind of backbone in the dev team. We need someone to tell the spoiled magicka brats "No".
Goes further than that, they cried about perma rollers so they nerfed it now that medium armor users are forced to use shuffle they still cry.
They cried about perma blockers now they get nerfed,( oh btw the perma blockers were block casting MAGICKA dks lmao)
When Zos balances shields all they do is lower the duration, they STILL stack STILL give crit immunity, STILL can be refreshed oh and they gave every class a "harden ward" so sorcs have 3 legit shields OH THE HORROR!
They cried about wrecking blow and now it got nerfed, cried that the 2h ulti is OP and destro is weak but the opposite is true.
They cry about stam based proc sets while ignoring their own proc sets which have been around for a while and we got ours in a recent patch,
They cry about vigor heals yet ignore the countless magicka scaling class heals they have which doen't require them to farm AP to unlock and is vastly superior to just two skills one of them requires a 2h.
Stamina based builds have been neglected pre 1.5 now that Zos is trying to add build diversity and getting everone out of a dress wears stick build they lose their minds being challenged,
Magicka>>>>>>Stamina Always, Superior heals, Superior utility skills, Superior dmg from range remebrt which group got a set that can blow up a zerg
All in all if they had their way we would have perma bat vanp DKs and Sorcs all over again.
Do you play on PS4?
Yes I do now.
I'm starting to think that the mechanics on PS4 are quite different from those on Xbox and PC. Currently on PC NA, magicka classes are weaker than stam ones (except templars).
I think we sould ask ZoS about this.
PS4 has no macros that allow people to animation cancel (and land) three attacks simultaneously on a crit rush for the instant proc kill.
Where do I sign up?
But that doesn't explain why is xbox and PC are in a similar spot... on the other hand I've always believed xbox is more related to a PC than to a NES/Famicom.
How does magicka NB plays on PS4? They are more ranged oriented or they play more melee oriented?Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
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I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
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Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.Edited by Anti_Virus on 8 November 2016 20:02Power Wealth And Influence.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You also dont get CC'ed on a dodge roll though, so that evens out.0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for the current pro Stamina proc gear meta.Strider_Roshin wrote: »People act like 5k vigor ticks are hard to get. Stam healing is broken AF and SA actually does enough dmg to counter a mending/vitality vigor tick, but not by much. STamplars can cleanse, right? Stam sorcs can los faster then any class, right? NB can cloak, right? Only one i see having an issue would be DKs as usual but mending/vitality pots in heavy rocking SnB might be able to block thru it. Now if you get outplayed into a situation that's on you.
Oh I just love to hear the responses from the magicka community. Asinine as always I see. First I see people comparing the power of the destro ult to Dawnbreaker, and now stamina is getting 5k tics in PvP lol. I think ZOS needs to get rid of the PTS, and hire their own testing staff, because quite frankly the magicka community has done nothing but harm the balance of this game with their delusions, and incorrect feedback.
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for the current Stamina snare/root/stun meta.
Yes, the Magicka community is responsible for Champion System boons like Unchained.
Stop crying about Soul Assault, it's a *** Ultimate that only really works when you are zerged down and in that case any Ultimate works just fine.
Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling, yet dodge rolling is more expensive, and the magicka community still cries about dodge rolling.
Magicka has more powerful heals, yet they cry about an inferior heal called vigor.
Magicka cries about gear imbalance, and yet Rattlecage is far superior to Dreugh King Slayer.
Magicka cries about about Incap, and Dawnbreaker; even though they ridiculously more powerful ultimates such as Soul Assault, and the Destro Ult.
Magicka cries about proc sets (rightfully so), but have been using proc sets such as Skoria long before stamina had them, and still uses them. (hypocritical much?)
The magicka community is comparable to a spoiled brat child that cries every time their sibling gets a new toy.
This game will never be balanced as long as the developers continue to listen to the hormonal magicka community. Unfortunately magicka is the majority, and the most vocal which is why the destro ult was buffed, wrecking blow was nerfed, and bone shield is still useless.
I kind of miss Paul Sage. When the magicka community whined to him back in the day he stated on an episode of ESO live that there are some people that will always ask for buffs no matter how strong they are. I miss that kind of backbone in the dev team. We need someone to tell the spoiled magicka brats "No".
Goes further than that, they cried about perma rollers so they nerfed it now that medium armor users are forced to use shuffle they still cry.
They cried about perma blockers now they get nerfed,( oh btw the perma blockers were block casting MAGICKA dks lmao)
When Zos balances shields all they do is lower the duration, they STILL stack STILL give crit immunity, STILL can be refreshed oh and they gave every class a "harden ward" so sorcs have 3 legit shields OH THE HORROR!
They cried about wrecking blow and now it got nerfed, cried that the 2h ulti is OP and destro is weak but the opposite is true.
They cry about stam based proc sets while ignoring their own proc sets which have been around for a while and we got ours in a recent patch,
They cry about vigor heals yet ignore the countless magicka scaling class heals they have which doen't require them to farm AP to unlock and is vastly superior to just two skills one of them requires a 2h.
Stamina based builds have been neglected pre 1.5 now that Zos is trying to add build diversity and getting everone out of a dress wears stick build they lose their minds being challenged,
Magicka>>>>>>Stamina Always, Superior heals, Superior utility skills, Superior dmg from range remebrt which group got a set that can blow up a zerg
All in all if they had their way we would have perma bat vanp DKs and Sorcs all over again.
Do you play on PS4?
Yes I do now.
I'm starting to think that the mechanics on PS4 are quite different from those on Xbox and PC. Currently on PC NA, magicka classes are weaker than stam ones (except templars).
I think we sould ask ZoS about this.
PS4 has no macros that allow people to animation cancel (and land) three attacks simultaneously on a crit rush for the instant proc kill.
Where do I sign up?
But that doesn't explain why is xbox and PC are in a similar spot... on the other hand I've always believed xbox is more related to a PC than to a NES/Famicom.
How does magicka NB plays on PS4? They are more ranged oriented or they play more melee oriented?
Heavy armored, resto/destro build, play defensive until spectral build procs, keep up cripple, use shadowy disguise for guarantee crit, heavy attack to spectral bow to impale is a common combination. Resto ult very powerful since it provides a great combination of survivability and damage. Soul Assault is OP against medium armored opponents, but weak against everyone else. Destro ult is OP against everyone, and is essentially an I win button. Also stay aggressive. The playstyle is a combination of melee and distance. When you use your destro ult hit your opponent with mass hysteria, then cripple to snare them. Rattlecage is a common 5 piece that is worn.0 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
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And you take all the incoming damage without mitigation. A dodge roll gives full damage immunity for single target attacks. It's also excellent for animation cancelling. Let's not even start about Shield overflow damage.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You only have to play Cyrodiil for a few hours to see that dodge rolls are a far better tool to survivability than damage shields. I will trade in damage shields for dodge roll any day.0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You also dont get CC'ed on a dodge roll though, so that evens out.
lol ever heard of mass hysteria?0 -
Anti_Virus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
And you take all the incoming damage without mitigation. A dodge roll gives full damage immunity for single target attacks. It's also excellent for animation cancelling. Let's not even start about Shield overflow damage.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You only have to play Cyrodiil for a few hours to see that dodge rolls are a far better tool to survivability than damage shields. I will trade in damage shields for dodge roll any day.
AoEs can go through dodge roll use them.
Also shield protect you while allowing you to go full offensive.
Just because that stam blade can roll behind a tree does not make it superior, fight in open combat and you will see.Edited by Anti_Virus on 9 November 2016 18:02Power Wealth And Influence.0 -
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It's not about the StamBlade rolling behind a tree, it's about the StamBlade ignoring all incoming single target damage while at the same time moving out of AoE range.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
And you take all the incoming damage without mitigation. A dodge roll gives full damage immunity for single target attacks. It's also excellent for animation cancelling. Let's not even start about Shield overflow damage.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You only have to play Cyrodiil for a few hours to see that dodge rolls are a far better tool to survivability than damage shields. I will trade in damage shields for dodge roll any day.
AoEs can go through dodge roll use them.
Also shield protect you while allowing you to got full offensive.
Just because that stam blade can roll behind a tree does not make it superior, fight in open combat and you will see
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
Dodge rolling can be used as an offensive tool. If you dodgeroll you are almost invulnerable (except for channels) for a couple of seconds, which allow you to make the transition from defensive to offensive without worrying about your health bar. On the contrary, shield stacking force you to keep on checking your health bar in case your shield goes down, which makes the transition from defensive to offensive more unreliable.
Besides, while shield stacking needs at least one slot in your action bar, dodge rolling needs noneSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique2 -
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✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »
And you take all the incoming damage without mitigation. A dodge roll gives full damage immunity for single target attacks. It's also excellent for animation cancelling. Let's not even start about Shield overflow damage.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You only have to play Cyrodiil for a few hours to see that dodge rolls are a far better tool to survivability than damage shields. I will trade in damage shields for dodge roll any day.
1vX (you being the 1) dodge rolling is superior. And that is the only situation where it is. In a 1v1 dodge rolling doesn't even compare to damage shields. So if you like to zerg or play in cyrodiil then you'll have more luck with dodge rolling. If you're a duelist like myself, dodge rolling doesn't even compare. And the fact that your damage shield can be larger than your health bar is just ridiculous.0 -
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✭Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You also dont get CC'ed on a dodge roll though, so that evens out.
Depends on the skill but for the most part yes.Power Wealth And Influence.0 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You also dont get CC'ed on a dodge roll though, so that evens out.
lol ever heard of mass hysteria?
This guy.0 -
hobicabobjob✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »1 of the ultimates of the bow let's you do actions like heal, dodge, block, dps, bash, gap close, stealth out, You get the point. It doesn't need more than it has.
You can't stealth while the ballista is going off. It's bugged.0 -
mrdankles✭✭✭This is the dumbest ultimate in the game. Every magic class used it in duels and one shot... lol.. Really ZOS? Someone wasn't taught what balance meant.0
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✭✭✭This is the dumbest ultimate in the game. Every magic class used it in duels and one shot... lol.. Really ZOS? Someone wasn't taught what balance meant.
The issue is that it's meh against light, and heavy opponents, but it's pure cheese against a medium armor opponent. ZOS has gotten worse, and worse at balancing lately.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »It's funny how they add an ability that destroys a dying armor type and makes heavy armor even better.
This, poor medium armor.
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✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »It's funny how they add an ability that destroys a dying armor type and makes heavy armor even better.
I'd argue it's definitely intended. They did say they want certain skills/items to work better in some portions of the game while bad in others.
Light+ medium = vital in pve for fps but otherwise lacking in defense for pvp. Can also be bad for tanks.
Heavy = vital to survive in pvp but bad in pve. Vital for pve tanks.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭Ah, we all have something. I dislike getting incapped stiked for 7+K every 5 seconds, just to name an example.
Balance in this game is bad, but nerfing the only cheap costing magicka Ulti that's a bit good while stamina still has multiple would be a knife in the back to all magicka players again. I have no issue countering SA, neither on my magicka nor stamina characters.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
And you take all the incoming damage without mitigation. A dodge roll gives full damage immunity for single target attacks. It's also excellent for animation cancelling. Let's not even start about Shield overflow damage.Anti_Virus wrote: »Lava_Croft wrote: »
I'm sorry but I quit reading there.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Damage shields are superior to dodge rolling
Its true though, they don't have a cost increase with subquent uses and give full crit immunity.
You only have to play Cyrodiil for a few hours to see that dodge rolls are a far better tool to survivability than damage shields. I will trade in damage shields for dodge roll any day.
1vX (you being the 1) dodge rolling is superior. And that is the only situation where it is. In a 1v1 dodge rolling doesn't even compare to damage shields. So if you like to zerg or play in cyrodiil then you'll have more luck with dodge rolling. If you're a duelist like myself, dodge rolling doesn't even compare. And the fact that your damage shield can be larger than your health bar is just ridiculous.
That´s just one half of the coin though.
I´d say dodgeroll (in combination with either cloak, reflect or major mending) is superior to shields when fighting any projectile based build because of how dodge works against anything with a traveltime (even in melee you gain 0.5 to 1s extra dodgetime against projectiles with traveltile).
Shields are superior when fighting instant proccs and frontloaded dmg.<Noricum>
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