Stam DK sets

Bakven · November 2016

I have a stam dk leveled up but don't have too many ideas on what sets (That aren't cancer) do well with it. I plan on using blackrose, but don't want to use viper. Any other sets that would work well? I play solo or in small group and want the build to do dmg mostly. I do not want to play a cancer build that relies almost completely on proc sets like tremorscale or viper.

Garwulf · November 2016

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

Mr_Apollo · November 2016

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Kas · November 2016

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

95% of those stats are made up.

susmitds · November 2016

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

Nobody gets more AP than a good bomber NB.

Kutsuu · November 2016

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Draugr Hulk is great, and so is Spriggan's. Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Also for the burst build, Kra'gh is a straight up 3.9% increase to damage assuming you aren't over penetrating. It's the best 1-piece you can add for that purpose.

Bakven · November 2016

Thanks for the info guys

And I don't play to gain AP, I play for fun. With my stam DK I'm wanting to show running a stam build that isn't meta or cancer is still viable

Ishammael · November 2016

Bakven wrote: »

Thanks for the info guys

And I don't play to gain AP, I play for fun. With my stam DK I'm wanting to show running a stam build that isn't meta or cancer is still viable

There are actually a ton of gear options for stam DK.

Right now heavy armor is really strong and will help you survive the immense damage in cyrodiil.

Starting with Black Rose as a base 5-pc, just experiment. Pick another five piece for jewelry and weapons. Pick a monster set and try it out. Gearing is pretty easy these days so you are doing yourself a disservice if you don't experiment.

A "standard" setup is Black Rose, agility 3pc, and 2pc endurance, with 2pc Bloodspawn.

Stamden · November 2016

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

Savos_Saren · November 2016

If you're running 1H/S on your stam DK- I'd suggest 5 Black Rose, 5 Knight's Errant, 2 Tremorscale. That way, you have a good amount of weapon damage, some self heals, and some burst. What race is your stam DK?

ryanborror · November 2016

5 sunderflame, 5 alchemist, 3 agility. Heavy attack from stealth with bow and silver shard, snipe, or poison injection. Idk could work

Kutsuu · November 2016

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

SkylarkX · November 2016

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

mtwiggz · November 2016

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

SkylarkX · November 2016

mtwiggz wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

I read more than just forum posts, certain trainee gear drops in other traits if you get them from starter island quest lines.

Kutsuu · November 2016

SkylarkX wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

I read more than just forum posts, certain trainee gear drops in other traits if you get them from starter island quest lines.

Do you have anything to add to this list? Because other than a reinforced or well fitted chest... I haven't found it.

["Armor of the Trainee"] =
{
[1] = "{ 1115 }, -- Smuggler's Vest of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[2] = "{ 1119 }, -- Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[3] = "{ 7358 }, -- Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[4] = "{ 7368 }, -- Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[5] = "{ 7369 }, -- Bonesplinter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[6] = "{ 7392 }, -- Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable)",
[7] = "{ 15567 }, -- Neramo's Staff of the Trainee (Powered)",
[8] = "{ 36573 }, -- Bloodthorn Dagger of the Trainee (Precise)",
[9] = "{ 36574 }, -- Kingsguard Hammer of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[10] = "{ 36575 }, -- Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[11] = "{ 36581 }, -- Tazgol's Ancestral Axe of the Trainee (Charged)",
[12] = "{ 43574 }, -- Storm-Slave's Razor of the Trainee (Charged)",
[13] = "{ 43576 }, -- Hazak's Hauberk of the Trainee (Well-fitted)",
[14] = "{ 43577 }, -- Ratsplatter of the Trainee (Precise)",
[15] = "{ 43578 }, -- Sugar Jacket of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[16] = "{ 43579 }, -- Rootsplitter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[17] = "{ 43580 }, -- Queen's Own Cuirass of the Trainee (Sturdy)",
[18] = "{ 43581 }, -- Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[19] = "{ 43582 }, -- Mourning Bow of the Trainee (Ornate)",
[20] = "{ 44458 }, -- Earth-Turner Axe of the Trainee (Precise)",
[21] = "{ 44459 }, -- General Emax's Staff of the Trainee (Charged)",
[22] = "{ 44460 }, -- General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending)"

SkylarkX · November 2016

Kutsuu wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

I read more than just forum posts, certain trainee gear drops in other traits if you get them from starter island quest lines.

Do you have anything to add to this list? Because other than a reinforced or well fitted chest... I haven't found it.

["Armor of the Trainee"] =
{
[1] = "{ 1115 }, -- Smuggler's Vest of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[2] = "{ 1119 }, -- Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[3] = "{ 7358 }, -- Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[4] = "{ 7368 }, -- Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[5] = "{ 7369 }, -- Bonesplinter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[6] = "{ 7392 }, -- Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable)",
[7] = "{ 15567 }, -- Neramo's Staff of the Trainee (Powered)",
[8] = "{ 36573 }, -- Bloodthorn Dagger of the Trainee (Precise)",
[9] = "{ 36574 }, -- Kingsguard Hammer of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[10] = "{ 36575 }, -- Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[11] = "{ 36581 }, -- Tazgol's Ancestral Axe of the Trainee (Charged)",
[12] = "{ 43574 }, -- Storm-Slave's Razor of the Trainee (Charged)",
[13] = "{ 43576 }, -- Hazak's Hauberk of the Trainee (Well-fitted)",
[14] = "{ 43577 }, -- Ratsplatter of the Trainee (Precise)",
[15] = "{ 43578 }, -- Sugar Jacket of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[16] = "{ 43579 }, -- Rootsplitter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[17] = "{ 43580 }, -- Queen's Own Cuirass of the Trainee (Sturdy)",
[18] = "{ 43581 }, -- Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[19] = "{ 43582 }, -- Mourning Bow of the Trainee (Ornate)",
[20] = "{ 44458 }, -- Earth-Turner Axe of the Trainee (Precise)",
[21] = "{ 44459 }, -- General Emax's Staff of the Trainee (Charged)",
[22] = "{ 44460 }, -- General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending)"

There's a sturdy in there as well

Kutsuu · November 2016

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

I read more than just forum posts, certain trainee gear drops in other traits if you get them from starter island quest lines.

Do you have anything to add to this list? Because other than a reinforced or well fitted chest... I haven't found it.

["Armor of the Trainee"] =
{
[1] = "{ 1115 }, -- Smuggler's Vest of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[2] = "{ 1119 }, -- Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[3] = "{ 7358 }, -- Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[4] = "{ 7368 }, -- Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[5] = "{ 7369 }, -- Bonesplinter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[6] = "{ 7392 }, -- Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable)",
[7] = "{ 15567 }, -- Neramo's Staff of the Trainee (Powered)",
[8] = "{ 36573 }, -- Bloodthorn Dagger of the Trainee (Precise)",
[9] = "{ 36574 }, -- Kingsguard Hammer of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[10] = "{ 36575 }, -- Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[11] = "{ 36581 }, -- Tazgol's Ancestral Axe of the Trainee (Charged)",
[12] = "{ 43574 }, -- Storm-Slave's Razor of the Trainee (Charged)",
[13] = "{ 43576 }, -- Hazak's Hauberk of the Trainee (Well-fitted)",
[14] = "{ 43577 }, -- Ratsplatter of the Trainee (Precise)",
[15] = "{ 43578 }, -- Sugar Jacket of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[16] = "{ 43579 }, -- Rootsplitter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[17] = "{ 43580 }, -- Queen's Own Cuirass of the Trainee (Sturdy)",
[18] = "{ 43581 }, -- Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[19] = "{ 43582 }, -- Mourning Bow of the Trainee (Ornate)",
[20] = "{ 44458 }, -- Earth-Turner Axe of the Trainee (Precise)",
[21] = "{ 44459 }, -- General Emax's Staff of the Trainee (Charged)",
[22] = "{ 44460 }, -- General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending)"

There's a sturdy in there as well

Regardless, where's the second armor piece that isn't training trait?

SkylarkX · November 2016

Kutsuu wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

I read more than just forum posts, certain trainee gear drops in other traits if you get them from starter island quest lines.

Do you have anything to add to this list? Because other than a reinforced or well fitted chest... I haven't found it.

["Armor of the Trainee"] =
{
[1] = "{ 1115 }, -- Smuggler's Vest of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[2] = "{ 1119 }, -- Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[3] = "{ 7358 }, -- Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[4] = "{ 7368 }, -- Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[5] = "{ 7369 }, -- Bonesplinter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[6] = "{ 7392 }, -- Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable)",
[7] = "{ 15567 }, -- Neramo's Staff of the Trainee (Powered)",
[8] = "{ 36573 }, -- Bloodthorn Dagger of the Trainee (Precise)",
[9] = "{ 36574 }, -- Kingsguard Hammer of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[10] = "{ 36575 }, -- Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[11] = "{ 36581 }, -- Tazgol's Ancestral Axe of the Trainee (Charged)",
[12] = "{ 43574 }, -- Storm-Slave's Razor of the Trainee (Charged)",
[13] = "{ 43576 }, -- Hazak's Hauberk of the Trainee (Well-fitted)",
[14] = "{ 43577 }, -- Ratsplatter of the Trainee (Precise)",
[15] = "{ 43578 }, -- Sugar Jacket of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[16] = "{ 43579 }, -- Rootsplitter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[17] = "{ 43580 }, -- Queen's Own Cuirass of the Trainee (Sturdy)",
[18] = "{ 43581 }, -- Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[19] = "{ 43582 }, -- Mourning Bow of the Trainee (Ornate)",
[20] = "{ 44458 }, -- Earth-Turner Axe of the Trainee (Precise)",
[21] = "{ 44459 }, -- General Emax's Staff of the Trainee (Charged)",
[22] = "{ 44460 }, -- General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending)"

There's a sturdy in there as well

Regardless, where's the second armor piece that isn't training trait?

What's wrong with training - it's pretty much the best trait for getting gud

Kutsuu · November 2016

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

SkylarkX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

The only problem with Trainee + Draugr Hulk is that you'll end up with 5 medium. Why you ask? Trainee, outside of a very specific few pieces that are attained as quest rewards, always comes with Training trait. This means your main options for trainee with non training traits are: Jewelery (3x can come in all 3 types), Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Heavy Reinforced Chest), Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h sword), Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened 1h dagger), General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending 2h sword), Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable), Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced), and Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced). Once you pick from those, your Draugr Hulk is going to end up 4x armor + 1 weapon or 5x armor.

I love the trainee set and use it in a few builds. I'm planning to use Black Rose + Trainee on my stam DK.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

Medium is ok on a stam DK, they have the hardened/volatile armor ability that gives 5.2k phys/spell resist so you can easily get heavy armor resistances in a set of 5 medium 2 heavy. This gives you all the benefit of medium armor passives for damage and sustain while still making you tanky.

Also, for the trainee set you kinda wanna run 3 jewelry and 2 armor pieces because of the resource dip if you use weapons instead and use bar swap (which is a pain in the ass). This means running 1 heavy reinforced/sturdy chest (from quest rewards) and a training legs - then 5 medium from other sets.

Why would you want to use 2x Trainee armor pieces ever? Did you not read the post you replied to? The armor pieces are ALWAYS Training trait other than the 1H Sword and Shield. (And jewelry)

I read more than just forum posts, certain trainee gear drops in other traits if you get them from starter island quest lines.

Do you have anything to add to this list? Because other than a reinforced or well fitted chest... I haven't found it.

["Armor of the Trainee"] =
{
[1] = "{ 1115 }, -- Smuggler's Vest of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[2] = "{ 1119 }, -- Gallant Chain of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[3] = "{ 7358 }, -- Jakarn's Machete of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[4] = "{ 7368 }, -- Seyne's Bootknife of the Trainee (Sharpened)",
[5] = "{ 7369 }, -- Bonesplinter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[6] = "{ 7392 }, -- Darj's Shield of the Trainee (Impenetrable)",
[7] = "{ 15567 }, -- Neramo's Staff of the Trainee (Powered)",
[8] = "{ 36573 }, -- Bloodthorn Dagger of the Trainee (Precise)",
[9] = "{ 36574 }, -- Kingsguard Hammer of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[10] = "{ 36575 }, -- Targoth's Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[11] = "{ 36581 }, -- Tazgol's Ancestral Axe of the Trainee (Charged)",
[12] = "{ 43574 }, -- Storm-Slave's Razor of the Trainee (Charged)",
[13] = "{ 43576 }, -- Hazak's Hauberk of the Trainee (Well-fitted)",
[14] = "{ 43577 }, -- Ratsplatter of the Trainee (Precise)",
[15] = "{ 43578 }, -- Sugar Jacket of the Trainee (Intricate)",
[16] = "{ 43579 }, -- Rootsplitter of the Trainee (Decisive)",
[17] = "{ 43580 }, -- Queen's Own Cuirass of the Trainee (Sturdy)",
[18] = "{ 43581 }, -- Broadhead Shield of the Trainee (Reinforced)",
[19] = "{ 43582 }, -- Mourning Bow of the Trainee (Ornate)",
[20] = "{ 44458 }, -- Earth-Turner Axe of the Trainee (Precise)",
[21] = "{ 44459 }, -- General Emax's Staff of the Trainee (Charged)",
[22] = "{ 44460 }, -- General Vette's Greatsword of the Trainee (Defending)"

There's a sturdy in there as well

Regardless, where's the second armor piece that isn't training trait?

What's wrong with training - it's pretty much the best trait for getting gud

I have many full training sets for PVE, but afaik this thread is about PVP builds. Personally I deal with the swap loss to avoid losing a trait.

Stamden · November 2016

Kutsuu wrote: »

Neighbor wrote: »

What do you guys think of stacking resources with something like Trainee + Draugr Hulk?

Kutsuu wrote: »

Mr_Apollo wrote: »

Garwulf wrote: »

Not going to try and recommend any sets. I wonder why you are bothering trying to play a DK these days?

PVP is all about the AP (the only measure of success in ZoS' PROX v PROX ) and DKs are number 4 on the AP generation scale .
Top is Sorc followed by Templar then NB and way behind is the 'boring old' DK.

In the hands of a competent player;
a Sorc will generate on average at least 80% more AP than a DK,
a Temp 58%,
a NB 37%,

A quick look at the class leader board will easily confirm these figures as being reasonably accurate.

DK stand for DummKopf

Thanks ZoS for stuffing up my main PVP character...

DKs are fun though...he did asked for suggestion on DKs not which other classes are better

It depends honestly, I have this build in mind, that is quite based on Stamina, really heavily focused on stamina

5 Black Rose
5 Draugr Hulk (Sword and Board)
Tremorscale Monster Set
And a random 2h with precise

Together with the tower, I can get around 40k of stamina which gives me a huge pool of resources.

You can also try a burst build which is quite hard to play, I detail it as high risk but high reward.

5 Alchemist
Kena and Bloodspawn (1 piece each)
3 agility
Maelstorm bow
Maelstorm 2H mace

Hope this helps for now?

Don't use the tower mundus just b/c you're stacking stam - it's just not a good ROI. Warrior will always give more damage.

Tower mundus is just a additive amount right? So someone with 20k stam and 40k would get the same amount from it, right? I could see the logic in that then.

Also: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Mundus+Stones

According to Alcast in his build: http://alcasthq.com/draugr/#1464162761293-9da8b590-d041

He recommends the Tower or even the Theif, not Warrior. Max stam increases stam ability damage too I believe, right? There has got to be some math here to get to the bottom of this.