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If the game had a permanent CP cap, what should it be?
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As we all know, the maximum ammount of Champion Points you can slot is 3600. However, at the rate at which they're increasing the cap, 30 per update, meant to be a mostly unnoticeable, gradual change, it would take years and years to reach 3600 cap.
And even worse, a 3600 cap would harm new players FAR too much, meaning that eventually there will have to be a permanent CP cap, that will never be changed unless the Champion System is somehow reworked.
If this was the case in the future, what do you think will be a fair number? 720 so you can potentially have two max rank perks? 1080 so you can potentially have three perks?
Discuss.
And even worse, a 3600 cap would harm new players FAR too much, meaning that eventually there will have to be a permanent CP cap, that will never be changed unless the Champion System is somehow reworked.
If this was the case in the future, what do you think will be a fair number? 720 so you can potentially have two max rank perks? 1080 so you can potentially have three perks?
Discuss.
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✭✭✭✭✭I would say there won't be any limit. If the game survives till 3600 CP, I am pretty sure there would be many more stars by then to enforce choices.1 -
Humatiel✭✭✭✭I would say 1080 as a permanent amount, anything more then that and we're straying into the "swap gear for all roles at all environments" type of abilities...not that we arent there already
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✭✭✭✭✭Where its at now, or less preferably, cp ruined the game and threw the balance further down the drain then it already was. (pvp)
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subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭If ZoS plans for lengevity, the CP system will probably get changed for something innovative in 2-3 years.
Every major mmo changes switches it up after a few years to keep it fresh and interesting.3 -
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✭I just hope there will never be that much CP you can get every point in CP-tree.
If that was the case, this would be boring since everyone would use same and there would be no diversity.
I'd say that (at most) you should be able to get two trees each to 120 to get max. passive.
So 6x120 = 720
If you'd get 3 trees maximum passive that'd be lil' boring already.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What in the world are you all going on about 3,600 champion points? The cap is 531.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Deathgiggle✭✭✭At the current increase rate, it would take you 27 more years to reach the cap. So don't worry, most of you won't still be playing in another 5+ years1 -
TheDarkRuler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well i would not make a statement 'bout player or not the next years.
As long as ZoS provides fun content like the recent Cradle of Shadows and Dark Brotherhood storyline i'll stay.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Over 9000.
If we're gonna keep the CP system may as well give people who play this game religiously the ability to break the game horrendously.0 -
Saoirse_Siobhan✭✭✭✭✭TheDarkRuler wrote: »I just hope there will never be that much CP you can get every point in CP-tree.
If that was the case, this would be boring since everyone would use same and there would be no diversity.
I'd say that (at most) you should be able to get two trees each to 120 to get max. passive.
So 6x120 = 720
If you'd get 3 trees maximum passive that'd be lil' boring already.
I agree with this. Being able to max 2 trees in each constellation would be a good balance I think, forcing the player to actually stop and think a moment to choose which passives they want and not being completely OPPC/EU DC0 -
nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭Find the guy who spent the most on crown scrolls with the highest time put in with the most CP earned and make it that. Anything less is an insult to that guy's and similar players' wallets and dedication.I didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.2 -
Garwulf✭✭✭In 'hindsight' the implementation of the champion system was a major disaster.
Intitally exploited and then susceptable to grinding advancement many had large amounts of CP very quickly after launch of the champion system.
ZoS' solution to their 'rooster up' was to implement the current cap .An alternative would have been to reset the CP system after owning up to thier 'honest' mistake and then limiting CP gain to something like one a day max.
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Bryanonymous✭✭✭✭✭The cap should be a number divisible by either 90, 225, or 360. Basically, it should have a logical reason for why it is capped at X amounts of passives. Odd numbers are just weird. Even divisible by three, 501, 531, and 561 make no sense. At least make it 540, 570, or 600.0
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BenLocoDete✭✭✭If the game had an absolute maximum, I think it should be over 9000. Jokes aside, my dream concept is something around the infinite, if people are willing to become gods, power creeping through everything to keep expanding their characters, the game should alow them to do this. I don't fear unbalancing, you must be rewarded for the time you spend playing the game, and being able to ascend to godhood through challenges and over-difficult tasks is something quite nice for the developers to offer.
My concern is to justify this ascension with a concise and profound lore, but there is plenty of source, and if the devs are willing they can implement some steps for a character to acquire CHIM, and block its way ahead with impossible quests until they have the time to expand upon the storyline.
Thing I don't find plausible is that this would/should be something you'd need your team working extensively and only dedicated to a very small portion of the player base, so it tends to be given a low priority, but as a concept I'd like to see the game take it to the infinite, in a very selective way that would take people to watch live streamers play like there's some final season chapter.[slit]Throat[/slit]1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭720 and never more. If you have more you can have like 0,5 crown for each cp above the limit each month (not going to happend)..."We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
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✭As we all know, the maximum ammount of Champion Points you can slot is 3600. However, at the rate at which they're increasing the cap, 30 per update, meant to be a mostly unnoticeable, gradual change, it would take years and years to reach 3600 cap.
And even worse, a 3600 cap would harm new players FAR too much, meaning that eventually there will have to be a permanent CP cap, that will never be changed unless the Champion System is somehow reworked.
If this was the case in the future, what do you think will be a fair number? 720 so you can potentially have two max rank perks? 1080 so you can potentially have three perks?
Discuss.
The problem being that the whole CP system is somewhat "broken" right now and you should expect a full re-working/overhaul of it in a future incarnation0 -
Kas✭✭✭✭✭it already has one, and it's 3600.
imho catchup mechanics should be even stronger than they are now, and cap increases should be bigger as well. make it so that everybody will quickly be at the last patches' cap but only few will really reach the cap within one patch cycle. i if we're talking about ~100pts post 600CP I don't think more or less CP will be such a big difference, especially once everybody is post 1000CP.
And eventually, when were's at caps aroudn 2k, why not make it possible for new players to make the first 500CP in a single day of grinding. not much harm done, imho.@bbu - AD/EU
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BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭Since we are working with gradual increases I don't see the point of discussing it at this rate. Analyzing data on future PVE content and how champion points impact it will tell us more than the given number, which is arbitrary to the player.
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