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Need some advice on my stamplar

leepalmer95
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My stamplar stats are currently:

36k stamina (using a magicka agility ring for now)
22k hp
9k~ magicka
4k wpn dmg buffed.
48% crit chance
1.84 crit modifier
1700 stamina regen

Now with repentance i should be able to easy sustain, however i'm on console and everything i dodge/block or bash my regen ticks stop, which is stupid game design.

So i'm in need of some regen here, but i really don't want to sacrifice much dmg.

Should i go vamp for 10% extra? But take more fire dmg and harder Db's.
Should i go ww on back bar for that little bit more regen when i'm buffing/healing.

I could likely replace a wpn dmg glyph with a regen one i suppose, but even then i'm still not sure that would be enough sustain.

Dammit zos, do something about this regen stopping when dodgeing or bashing, puts stamina at such a disadvantage on consoles.
PS4 EU DC

Current CP : 756+

I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • sluice
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    Food
    Try using the blue Orcsinium food that gives 5k health and 457 stamina recovery.
    Sure your stamina will drop to 31-32k (still good!), but if that does not fix your recovery problem, I don't know what will.

    Yes, your tooltip damage will drop, but I'm sure you will still be able to kill, plus you should have better survivability.
    At least give it a shot. :)

    Alchemy
    Is your Alchemy leveled to 50?
    If not, you definitly should for the Medicinal Use passive.
    Your potions effect will last 30% longer, which means that you can boost your recovery by 20% for the whole duration of the potion cooldown. (Which would put you at just over 2k when using potions)


    Vampire
    It's not a problem in PVP.

    Even as a Vamp, I stack almost twice as much points into Hardy compared to Elemental Defender.

    Remember as a vamp you get a bunch of great benefits:
    -No movement speed while in Stealth (to me this is huge for PVP..)
    -To closer you are to death, the tougher you are to kill
    -10% recovery to stamina and magicka
    -Elusive Mist!
    -Bats!

    Ok, Elusive Mist and Bats are mainly great for magicka builds, but still that shouldn't limit you from trying out Vamp.
    Plus now you can managed in which stage you are more easily.. I always sit at Stage 4 though.



    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

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  • leepalmer95
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    sluice wrote: »
    Food
    Try using the blue Orcsinium food that gives 5k health and 457 stamina recovery.
    Sure your stamina will drop to 31-32k (still good!), but if that does not fix your recovery problem, I don't know what will.

    Yes, your tooltip damage will drop, but I'm sure you will still be able to kill, plus you should have better survivability.
    At least give it a shot. :)

    Alchemy
    Is your Alchemy leveled to 50?
    If not, you definitly should for the Medicinal Use passive.
    Your potions effect will last 30% longer, which means that you can boost your recovery by 20% for the whole duration of the potion cooldown. (Which would put you at just over 2k when using potions)


    Vampire
    It's not a problem in PVP.

    Even as a Vamp, I stack almost twice as much points into Hardy compared to Elemental Defender.

    Remember as a vamp you get a bunch of great benefits:
    -No movement speed while in Stealth (to me this is huge for PVP..)
    -To closer you are to death, the tougher you are to kill
    -10% recovery to stamina and magicka
    -Elusive Mist!
    -Bats!

    Ok, Elusive Mist and Bats are mainly great for magicka builds, but still that shouldn't limit you from trying out Vamp.
    Plus now you can managed in which stage you are more easily.. I always sit at Stage 4 though.



    I'm thinking of vamp, pretty sure the vamp + regen glyph should be enough for me, it'll put me around 2k~ or should

    I'm gonna go make some movement/imov pots, imov should help with sustain via not having to break free for 16s.

    I'm broke though...
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Moglijuana
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    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already [snip] stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on 16 May 2018 13:46
    Ps4 - PSN:jdmaya
    Dårth Måul (AD- Dunmer Mag DK) Legate
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  • leepalmer95
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already [snip] stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.

    Well on pc they can rebind bash/dodge to not need to use block first, so they don't lose ticks.

    Zos just messed up when they stopped regen when blocking, no though't to console at all.
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on 16 May 2018 13:46
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Moglijuana
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already Sh*ty stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.

    Well on pc they can rebind bash/dodge to not need to use block first, so they don't lose ticks.

    Zos just messed up when they stopped regen when blocking, no though't to console at all.

    ooooooh. wow. I never thought about that...I ani cancel/bash everything too...well [snip]. That explains a lot.
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on 16 May 2018 13:46
    Ps4 - PSN:jdmaya
    Dårth Måul (AD- Dunmer Mag DK) Legate
    Latest Vid:https://youtu.be/WZp_IdyrL6Q
  • leepalmer95
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already [snip] stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.

    Well on pc they can rebind bash/dodge to not need to use block first, so they don't lose ticks.

    Zos just messed up when they stopped regen when blocking, no though't to console at all.

    ooooooh. wow. I never thought about that...I ani cancel/bash everything too...well [snip]. That explains a lot.

    Hence when you see people on pc running like 1k regen build with max damage and sustaining then you know why you can't on console.
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on 16 May 2018 13:46
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • sluice
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already [snip] stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.

    Well on pc they can rebind bash/dodge to not need to use block first, so they don't lose ticks.

    Zos just messed up when they stopped regen when blocking, no though't to console at all.

    ooooooh. wow. I never thought about that...I ani cancel/bash everything too...well [snip]. That explains a lot.

    I do as well... and I don't see a problem, but I'm sitting at 2.3k recovery on my stamblade.


    @leepalmer95, sure.. why wouldn't you buy a cheaper ring (like Arcane Agility if you are using the Agility set..) and simply try it out. It will surely help.

    I was sitting at around 1.9k on my stamsorc orc but I still went out of stamina too fast (so much dodge rolling because of my Eternal Hunt/Skirmisher setup), so I tried the 5k health + stam recovery food for sh!ts and giggle...
    It was a world of a difference. Sure my tooltip didn't show as much damage but I was still able to kill efficiently and was able to sustain and survive so much more.
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on 16 May 2018 13:46
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • Moglijuana
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    sluice wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already Sh*ty stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.

    Well on pc they can rebind bash/dodge to not need to use block first, so they don't lose ticks.

    Zos just messed up when they stopped regen when blocking, no though't to console at all.

    ooooooh. wow. I never thought about that...I ani cancel/bash everything too...well sh*t. That explains a lot.

    I do as well... and I don't see a problem, but I'm sitting at 2.3k recovery on my stamblade.


    @leepalmer95, sure.. why wouldn't you buy a cheaper ring (like Arcane Agility if you are using the Agility set..) and simply try it out. It will surely help.

    I was sitting at around 1.9k on my stamsorc orc but I still went out of stamina too fast (so much dodge rolling because of my Eternal Hunt/Skirmisher setup), so I tried the 5k health + stam recovery food for sh!ts and giggle...
    It was a world of a difference. Sure my tooltip didn't show as much damage but I was still able to kill efficiently and was able to sustain and survive so much more.

    Yea I don't notice problems on my stamblade either. Probably for two reasons. 1) Redguard OP 2) Siphoning Strikes even more OP lol. I'll probably just end up running orzogas for the orc stamplar for the extra sustain. I'll try it again tonight. If I don't like it I may just race change to redguard when it becomes an option even though I really enjoy my orc.

    I literally JUST started playing on the stamplar last night. They're REALLY fun tbh. Probably going to drop my DK and make him a maelstrom slave since PvPing on him has been getting stale fighting 90% malubeth trollplars. Got a lot to learn.
    Ps4 - PSN:jdmaya
    Dårth Måul (AD- Dunmer Mag DK) Legate
    Latest Vid:https://youtu.be/WZp_IdyrL6Q
  • sluice
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    sluice wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    I've been running into the same issue on my Orc Stamplar. Sitting at around 1600 unbuffed regen and even with potions + continuous + vamp I still find myself running out of stam super fast sometimes. I guess it could be all those people running poisons? Are those still a thing?

    Are the stamina ticks that are being prevented from bashing/dodging a thing on pc? Or is it just another disadvantage of being on the farthest end of Zos's already [snip] stick?


    p.s. Orc Stamplar wearing the Flanking Strategist set hits HARD AF lol.

    Well on pc they can rebind bash/dodge to not need to use block first, so they don't lose ticks.

    Zos just messed up when they stopped regen when blocking, no though't to console at all.

    ooooooh. wow. I never thought about that...I ani cancel/bash everything too...well [snip]. That explains a lot.

    I do as well... and I don't see a problem, but I'm sitting at 2.3k recovery on my stamblade.


    @leepalmer95, sure.. why wouldn't you buy a cheaper ring (like Arcane Agility if you are using the Agility set..) and simply try it out. It will surely help.

    I was sitting at around 1.9k on my stamsorc orc but I still went out of stamina too fast (so much dodge rolling because of my Eternal Hunt/Skirmisher setup), so I tried the 5k health + stam recovery food for sh!ts and giggle...
    It was a world of a difference. Sure my tooltip didn't show as much damage but I was still able to kill efficiently and was able to sustain and survive so much more.

    Yea I don't notice problems on my stamblade either. Probably for two reasons. 1) Redguard OP 2) Siphoning Strikes even more OP lol. I'll probably just end up running orzogas for the orc stamplar for the extra sustain. I'll try it again tonight. If I don't like it I may just race change to redguard when it becomes an option even though I really enjoy my orc.

    I literally JUST started playing on the stamplar last night. They're REALLY fun tbh. Probably going to drop my DK and make him a maelstrom slave since PvPing on him has been getting stale fighting 90% malubeth trollplars. Got a lot to learn.

    Siphoning Strikes makes a huge difference. I was able to sustain my old build with 1.3k recovery using Siphoning Attacks.
    That said, since I'm sitting at 2.3k recovery unbuffed and now using 4x well-fitted, I dropped it.

    Stamplar is my next character as well. Most definitely Redguard. :)

    But yeah, try Orzogas it's a huge difference. I'm sure you are just like me and most other min-maxers out there: we are all obsess on our stat sheets and tooltip damage. But take a chance a try something a little difference, forget about your sheet damage for a sec and I bet you'll still be able to successfully get the kills no matter what, even if your Jabs tooltip is a bit lower ;)
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on 21 May 2018 19:27
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • leepalmer95
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    I lose 500 wpn dmg if i switch a max dmg glyph...

    So i'm going to drop my 5x hundings and go 4/1 4 piece of something giving max stam/wpn dmg/regen and a kena helm

    drop 40 wpn dmg, gain 129 regen basically.
    Edited by leepalmer95 on 20 July 2016 19:05
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • caeliusstarbreaker
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    Heavy attack often

    Added: run engine guardian, kill quicker for repentance
    Edited by caeliusstarbreaker on 20 July 2016 19:03
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  • sluice
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    Heavy attack often

    Added: run engine guardian, kill quicker for repentance

    I'm not a big fan of Engine Guardian on Stamina Builds.. I prefer a Bloodspawn/Molag combo.
    But on a templar, it's a great set... Repent that dwemer!
    PSN: sluiceqc (NA-PS4) CP: 551+
    I strictly play on Daggerfall Covenant for when it comes to PvP
    Daggerfall Covenant
    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
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