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Akaviri Motif for Crown Shop

  • Avidspark
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    I had hoped that on Independence Day we'd have an update to the shop giving independence to the Akaviri style currently help in captivity...but alas, no such luck.

    Get on it Devs, it's only fair.

    I think it would be a nice Christmas present for you. I'll tell Santa. By the way, just finished the set yesterday. Spent tons of gold and tons of AP on it. In fact, I completed every motif yesterday. Got my Abah Watch Chest for 35k gold finally. Bet the Pve'rs were real happy to get my gold for the Assasins and Abah motifs. I tried to tell them to put it on the Crown store becasue it was only fair, but alas, they just wanted my gold. :(

    Ya know, your ability to sarcasm leaves a lot to be desired.
    I too want the Abah's Watch and Assassin's in shop...because, derp, it's fair.

    And forget Santa...too bad no one ever told you he aint real. I had that figured out by age 5...

    Lol. You have consistently been snippy and sarcastic this entire thread. You're too funny

    I can't see it...just your snide remarks, that I treated in kind. What, you're the only one allowed to be snippy? And sarcastic (kind of)? No dear, it's a free market on that...if you put it out there, I'll happily slap you in the face with it. But as gentleman, I only respond in kind...but as a gentleman, I always give better than I receive.

    Since you've ignored my request...
    Avidspark wrote: »
    Anyone posting, remain civil
    ...I will not remain civil with you further either.

    Oh..come on. How blind you are! Every person who has posted in this thread against what you want has had to endure your snide remarks. What a laugh you are.

    No one but you dear. And if you can't be civil, be gone.
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  • maxjapank
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    I had hoped that on Independence Day we'd have an update to the shop giving independence to the Akaviri style currently help in captivity...but alas, no such luck.

    Get on it Devs, it's only fair.

    I think it would be a nice Christmas present for you. I'll tell Santa. By the way, just finished the set yesterday. Spent tons of gold and tons of AP on it. In fact, I completed every motif yesterday. Got my Abah Watch Chest for 35k gold finally. Bet the Pve'rs were real happy to get my gold for the Assasins and Abah motifs. I tried to tell them to put it on the Crown store becasue it was only fair, but alas, they just wanted my gold. :(

    Ya know, your ability to sarcasm leaves a lot to be desired.
    I too want the Abah's Watch and Assassin's in shop...because, derp, it's fair.

    And forget Santa...too bad no one ever told you he aint real. I had that figured out by age 5...

    Lol. You have consistently been snippy and sarcastic this entire thread. You're too funny

    I can't see it...just your snide remarks, that I treated in kind. What, you're the only one allowed to be snippy? And sarcastic (kind of)? No dear, it's a free market on that...if you put it out there, I'll happily slap you in the face with it. But as gentleman, I only respond in kind...but as a gentleman, I always give better than I receive.

    Since you've ignored my request...
    Avidspark wrote: »
    Anyone posting, remain civil
    ...I will not remain civil with you further either.

    Oh..come on. How blind you are! Every person who has posted in this thread against what you want has had to endure your snide remarks. What a laugh you are.

    No one but you dear. And if you can't be civil, be gone.

    Likewise. Let the motif come when it comes. Be done with this thread.
  • Avidspark
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    I had hoped that on Independence Day we'd have an update to the shop giving independence to the Akaviri style currently help in captivity...but alas, no such luck.

    Get on it Devs, it's only fair.

    I think it would be a nice Christmas present for you. I'll tell Santa. By the way, just finished the set yesterday. Spent tons of gold and tons of AP on it. In fact, I completed every motif yesterday. Got my Abah Watch Chest for 35k gold finally. Bet the Pve'rs were real happy to get my gold for the Assasins and Abah motifs. I tried to tell them to put it on the Crown store becasue it was only fair, but alas, they just wanted my gold. :(

    Ya know, your ability to sarcasm leaves a lot to be desired.
    I too want the Abah's Watch and Assassin's in shop...because, derp, it's fair.

    And forget Santa...too bad no one ever told you he aint real. I had that figured out by age 5...

    Lol. You have consistently been snippy and sarcastic this entire thread. You're too funny

    I can't see it...just your snide remarks, that I treated in kind. What, you're the only one allowed to be snippy? And sarcastic (kind of)? No dear, it's a free market on that...if you put it out there, I'll happily slap you in the face with it. But as gentleman, I only respond in kind...but as a gentleman, I always give better than I receive.

    Since you've ignored my request...
    Avidspark wrote: »
    Anyone posting, remain civil
    ...I will not remain civil with you further either.

    Oh..come on. How blind you are! Every person who has posted in this thread against what you want has had to endure your snide remarks. What a laugh you are.

    No one but you dear. And if you can't be civil, be gone.

    Likewise. Let the motif come when it comes. Be done with this thread.

    Not going anywhere, until my motifs are in the shop. You can go now hun.
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  • Banana
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    I think there are plenty of other ones that will be added before this one arrives.
  • svartorn
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Do you know how long it takes to earn Millions of AP? It takes quite a long time. The value of the motif is usually determined by the investment it takes to get it. Now I agree with you that the price is insane. But not the gold price. The AP price is insane.

    Not really. I get 150k a day on slow days.
  • Khenarthi
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    I caved and bought the motifs from PVP players. I deeply dislike PVP and would rather have spend real money for the motif rather than giving gold to the people who's interest in game are so different than my own, but since there's no estimated date for this motif to reach the crown store, I'm sure I'll get the gold back one way or the other (they need to buy stuff from guild stores that people like myself put up for sale).
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  • MusekininKanchou
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    svartorn wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Do you know how long it takes to earn Millions of AP? It takes quite a long time. The value of the motif is usually determined by the investment it takes to get it. Now I agree with you that the price is insane. But not the gold price. The AP price is insane.

    Not really. I get 150k a day on slow days.

    What exactly is a day to you? Were I still a full time college student and single, a day to me would have been 6-10 hours. To a person that works 10-12 hours a day and is a married father it's 2-3 hours and if I'm lucky about every other day or two. For me it's about 20- 30k a day or around 100k a week on a good week. Needles to say I've been working on getting this for a long time. I remember the days I could play all day and don't exactly grudge those that do except a couple of guys I knew that milked unemployment for 2 years. There has to be something for pvpers to spend their ap on to make money but I think it's about time Akaviri goes to the crown store and PVP gets something else equally cool.
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Oh come on. If we can't sell Akaviri-Motifs, how else are PvP-players gonna earn gold? Rofl. As of now, I've sold enough akaviri motifs to earn half a mill. And that's just recently. How else do you suggest I earn gold? "Oh, let's sell the overpriced RotW-gear!" cus they are really expensive, yeah?

    No seriously. Let Akavirmotifs be something you can only get in PvP. And getting a lot of AP is not THAT hard. But you can't expect to earn AP if you run in a 24-man group 1h/day.

    You can, oh idk, play the rest of the game? Maybe?

    You're asking me to play your game...why can't you play mine? Hmm?


    I made this thread to address the unfairness of putting Glass and Xivkyn in the shop, and not Akaviri, when Glass was a lot more expensive than Akaviri, and came out at the same time. But with all these whiny pvpers chiming in, it's suddenly become about them...and 'why can't I earn goooold tooo'. When not a one of them actually plays the rest of the game at all. And they frankly don't care one iota about fair...wouldn't know it if it hit them on the back of the head.

    Try looking at it from a FAIRNESS perspective, instead of your own petty selfish one.

    Oh, I'm doing PvE! A lot of it. Daily pledges & trials :) And I've completed most of the TG+DB storyline and their spammable quests. Let alone I got a lot of PvE-achievements done. And I'm almost halfway on my Explorer title :)!

    So I AM playing your game. Question is: Are you playing mine?


    Done over 20 nSO runs and around 7vSO runs - got me a total of 50k gold, cus RNGesus. In PvP on the other hand, I don't get affected by RNGesus. I can buy the Motifs that's on-demand, I know how much gold I'll gain and I know when I'll get it. I also don't need to rely on lucky drops. I know how much money I can get - and I can get it in a way that feels meaningful and usefl for me. I'm sorry if you don't like PvP, I really am. But from your words, I'm presuming you're earning a lot of gold doing PvE, yes? :) Cus in tht case, buy the motifs. Just as I(in pvp) have to buy potions/foods/PvE-grinded[Psst, TG-motifs, Abah's watch etc. Since I don't enjoy grinding those :)
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  • Nafirian
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    svartorn wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Do you know how long it takes to earn Millions of AP? It takes quite a long time. The value of the motif is usually determined by the investment it takes to get it. Now I agree with you that the price is insane. But not the gold price. The AP price is insane.

    Not really. I get 150k a day on slow days.

    What exactly is a day to you? Were I still a full time college student and single, a day to me would have been 6-10 hours. To a person that works 10-12 hours a day and is a married father it's 2-3 hours and if I'm lucky about every other day or two. For me it's about 20- 30k a day l.
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  • Avidspark
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    Y'know, that would be a valid answer....if every motif prior hadn't gone to the crown shop.

    But...they did. So should this one, and all subsequent.

    OR, NONE of them should have, except the basic ones.

    But, that didn't happen. To arbitrarily hold one back, because of pvp crying, is crap. And I think you know it.

    (oh, and yah, played 'your game'...enough to get rapids. That's about as much as I can stomach of ganktown and cheat central, thanks)
    Edited by Avidspark on 6 July 2016 01:52
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    Avidspark wrote: »

    Y'know, that would be a valid answer....if every motif prior hadn't gone to the crown shop.

    But...they did. So should this one, and all subsequent.

    OR, NONE of them should have, except the basic ones.

    But, that didn't happen. To arbitrarily hold one back, because of pvp crying, is crap. And I think you know it.

    (oh, and yah, played 'your game'...enough to get rapids. That's about as much as I can stomach of ganktown and cheat central, thanks)

    If you played enough to get Rapids, then you did NOT play my game :) And there's barely any cheating in PvP, the latest incidents with CE ain't common, you know.
    I'm sorry if your tunnelvisioned mind can't see that getting rapids(Which you get just by entering Cyro + handing in the introducton quest) is not playing "my game". So your arguments are invalid. You never even tried PvP :) Sorry, but your credibility just dropped tons. Asking people to play your game - when you don't give their game a chance. Enjoy your wicked view on the world, I'm out ~
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  • Avidspark
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    If you played enough to get Rapids, then you did NOT play my game :) And there's barely any cheating in PvP, the latest incidents with CE ain't common, you know.
    I'm sorry if your tunnelvisioned mind can't see that getting rapids(Which you get just by entering Cyro + handing in the introducton quest) is not playing "my game". So your arguments are invalid. You never even tried PvP :) Sorry, but your credibility just dropped tons. Asking people to play your game - when you don't give their game a chance. Enjoy your wicked view on the world, I'm out ~
    Oh, I most certainly did play your game dear.

    For as long as I could stomach it...about a week.

    I took part in the capture of several keeps, was gangganked numerous times by ult spamming cheatexploiters, helped a guildmate get Emperor...

    ...and bagged it. It's disgusting, and I managed to get Rapids (maxed...certainly NOT done by simply waltzing in and doing that intro quest dearie)) from that time spent there. That's all. Oh, and some TV stones from the DLC when another guild I'm in did events there...when 24 of us would go through and run the bosses for achievements...and ofc, with an actual GROUP there, then the gankers ran away and left us be.

    No hun, 'your' game is vile and rampant with the kind of gameplay I'm oh so happy to do without. My so called 'tunnelvision' is no more than eyes forced wide open by the crapfest that I witnessed there... shant be returning.

    I await my Akaviri to be in my guild shop soon, thx, bai2u
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  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    @americansteel
    another "its only fair if i can buy it" thread

    Not every motif has been offered in the crown store like you claim.

    are you afraid to play the game? you think pvp is the forbidden area? you bad? is pvp taboo for you?

    you mad? all this time you spent whining you could put effort to playing pvp buying those ugly motifs!
    within 2 months you can buy all of them.

    its not fair you dont know what fair is.

    IC DLC is not fair, trials drop rates arent fair,

    WORK FOR IT


    http://paazhahdrimaak.tumblr.com/post/143806968718/happyscale-v16-akaviri


    THANK YOU.

    everyone wants it, but they want it the easy way.

    Edited by Paazhahdrimaak on 7 July 2016 16:49
  • FearlessOne_2014
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    @americansteel
    another "its only fair if i can buy it" thread

    Not every motif has been offered in the crown store like you claim.

    are you afraid to play the game? you think pvp is the forbidden area? you bad? is pvp taboo for you?

    you mad? all this time you spent whining you could put effort to playing pvp buying those ugly motifs!
    within 2 months you can buy all of them.

    its not fair you dont know what fair is.

    IC DLC is not fair, trials drop rates arent fair,

    WORK FOR IT


    http://paazhahdrimaak.tumblr.com/post/143806968718/happyscale-v16-akaviri


    THANK YOU.

    everyone wants it, but they want it the easy way.

    Not really the easy way, the case everyone wants a chance at it.I wouldn't even mind if ZOS tied it to a PvE event or what not. There are a few of us who just CBA to run on high end machines a game mode that not only drop below 20fps. Gives you the big bad loading screen of death right in the middle of what should have been a amazing fight, turned into a ridiculous death due to MAJOR ongoing server side problems. Ones that are for the most part exclusive to ESO and a very select handful of F2P games. Then lets not even begin to talk about the cheaters still running rampant in Cyrodiil which what seems the only way to have ZOS deal with them is to have your Members through a popularity contest mass report said players in question. All these things just don't make Cyrodiil not fun, but honestly highly unplayable even on a high end machine. And if you are not in a guild where everyone bends to your will.
  • americansteel
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    @americansteel
    another "its only fair if i can buy it" thread

    Not every motif has been offered in the crown store like you claim.

    are you afraid to play the game? you think pvp is the forbidden area? you bad? is pvp taboo for you?

    you mad? all this time you spent whining you could put effort to playing pvp buying those ugly motifs!
    within 2 months you can buy all of them.

    its not fair you dont know what fair is.

    IC DLC is not fair, trials drop rates arent fair,

    WORK FOR IT


    http://paazhahdrimaak.tumblr.com/post/143806968718/happyscale-v16-akaviri


    THANK YOU.

    everyone wants it, but they want it the easy way.

    ?
    NO LONGER PLAYING ESO

    POOR SERVER PERFORMANCE
    LAG
    LOAD SCREENS
    DONE
  • americansteel
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    another "its only fair if i can buy it" thread

    Not every motif has been offered in the crown store like you claim.

    are you afraid to play the game? you think pvp is the forbidden area? you bad? is pvp taboo for you?

    you mad? all this time you spent whining you could put effort to playing pvp buying those ugly motifs!
    within 2 months you can buy all of them.

    its not fair you dont know what fair is.

    IC DLC is not fair, trials drop rates arent fair,

    WORK FOR IT

    Highly hypocritical for PvPers to say that when they cried till ZOS put the monster helm in Cyrodiil which actually increases your stats as a player. I'd honestly say if people have to be forced to do PvP to get the motif then ZOS should also force people to "WORK FOR IT" by doing the vet dungeons. Difference is with all of the cheats, macros, lag, and Loading Screen Boss that'll kill you without giving you a chance to fight back is silly and sad that something so cosmetic is gated by.

    find a thread of me arguing to sell monster sets.

    i argued not to sell them!

    every body wants to avoid working for something, no body wants a feeling of self accomplishment.
    what a terrible culture.

    all motifs should be worked for not bought in a crown store (economy stays up).

    i worked for my AP by killing DC and whiney hate filled AD players i have all pvp akivirii motifs, pvpers have a currency called alliance points alot have well over 20 million we needed something to spend it on instead of siege weapons.

    a very justifiable aprroach was akivirii motifs, the EP vendors sold pact armor sets in akivirii style thus the motif release..

    NO LONGER PLAYING ESO

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  • americansteel
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    Avidspark wrote: »

    WORK FOR IT
    Work for it. riiiight...like you cheat exploiters do any 'work'.

    Sell other crap...want gold? EARN IT, instead of cheating others for it.

    real nice accusation of me and the other ebon heart pact players

    im really impressed with your attempt at trying to justify your agenda

    the vast majority of cheaters are not on EP and many threads with videos help my position here.

    pvp players utilize better builds generally have better sustain than pvers like you!

    i run dungeons and trials faster with pvpers than i do with pve guilds

    as a pvpers i have higher situation awareness than many of you questers

    keep on questing little guy keep on making excuses to stay out of pvp because youre bad and ignorant.
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  • Avidspark
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    keep on questing little guy keep on making excuses to stay out of pvp because youre bad and ignorant.
    Thanks for perpetuating the pvper stereotype. You're exactly why I despise it. Al the epeens, and crapgasmic 'gut guud boi!' fratmorons....MANY OF WHICH choose to exploit glitches to 'bee goud boi' or outright cheat.

    Grow up. Some day, should you survive to it, you'll get to a point in life where you tire of that garbage. When that day comes, if again, you survive to it, you'll look back on your actions with regret.

    Wallow in it.


    I've asked for the motifs to be placed in the guild shop, because SOME were, and OTHERS were NOT. If that's too hard a concept for you to wrap your immature mind around, perhaps you need to educate it.
    bai2u2.
    Edited by Avidspark on 8 July 2016 00:16
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  • lookstwice
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    I don't PVP much, have a whopping 12-14 k of that green currency. I believe that is the AP that is referred to here.

    I effing love that motif so much it hurts.

    And as much as I would like to see it in the store, I say keep it as is. It's nice having that carrot for me to maybe one day start working on it.

    So keep it PVP only would be my vote.
  • Avidspark
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    lookstwice wrote: »
    So keep it PVP only would be my vote.
    ...and I might agree, except...

    ...as I've stated far too many times here...

    ...EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    ...EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    So what ?

    Because they'all in there, they have to be all in there ?

    You know the explanation already : PvPers need stuff (exclusive) to spend AP on and incentive to earn even more AP. That's why the Akaviri motif is not in the crown store.

  • Avidspark
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    ...EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    So what ?

    Because they'all in there, they have to be all in there ?

    You know the explanation already : PvPers need stuff (exclusive) to spend AP on and incentive to earn even more AP. That's why the Akaviri motif is not in the crown store.

    Not an adequate excuse, when many other items could easily be made available for them, like potions, foods, etc etc...stuff they'd use...

    ...instead of a motif that is ARTIFICIALLY expensive.

    And yes, "Because they'all in there, they have to be all in there"...exactly.
    Edited by Avidspark on 11 July 2016 15:10
    'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Not an adequate excuse, when many other items could easily be made available for them, like potions, foods, etc etc...stuff they'd use...

    ...instead of a motif that is ARTIFICIALLY expensive.

    And yes, "Because they'all in there, they have to be all in there"...exactly.

    Well obviously, all non-market (i.e. all vendor) prices are articifial.

    So what should in your opinion be available for AP ? (Food, potions, etc... is not valid... ZOS always said crafted items will be better than purchased items which in turn is better than looted items. People will buy their food and pots easily and cheaper from other players).

  • Avidspark
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Not an adequate excuse, when many other items could easily be made available for them, like potions, foods, etc etc...stuff they'd use...

    ...instead of a motif that is ARTIFICIALLY expensive.

    And yes, "Because they'all in there, they have to be all in there"...exactly.

    Well obviously, all non-market (i.e. all vendor) prices are articifial.

    So what should in your opinion be available for AP ? (Food, potions, etc... is not valid... ZOS always said crafted items will be better than purchased items which in turn is better than looted items. People will buy their food and pots easily and cheaper from other players).

    Food and pots are perfectly valid...if they want they can spend AP on those...or earn gold ingame doing the NONpvp stuff.

    Instead of having ONE artificially expensive motif to sell. Which is bs. Especially, as I've already said far too many times, and none of you naysayers seem to grasp, EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    And that glib 'non vendor prices are all artificial' is just that...glib sidestepping. No other motif costs like this one does, even though these others (like glass) is HARDER to come by/rarer for materials to make.

    So knock that off, 'kay?
    Edited by Avidspark on 11 July 2016 16:00
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    Okay..; I think I got your argument. In fact, this motif should be in the crown store because YOU want it there.
    And that's all. No further reason. (Why should we need one, after all ? ;-) )

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on 11 July 2016 17:08
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    svartorn wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Do you know how long it takes to earn Millions of AP? It takes quite a long time. The value of the motif is usually determined by the investment it takes to get it. Now I agree with you that the price is insane. But not the gold price. The AP price is insane.

    Not really. I get 150k a day on slow days.

    What exactly is a day to you?

    Cyrodiil for 2-3 hours with a good group of 8-12 people can net ~250k ap.
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    Okay..; I think I got your argument. In fact, this motif should be in the crown store because YOU want it there.
    And that's all. No further reason. (Why should we need one, after all ? ;-) )

    No, because all the other ones went there...so why is this one an exception?

    No, see, I don't think you grasp the issue at all.
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    Avidspark wrote: »
    Avidspark wrote: »
    EVERY OTHER MOTIF FROM THAT UPDATE IS IN THE SHOP ALREADY.

    Okay..; I think I got your argument. In fact, this motif should be in the crown store because YOU want it there.
    And that's all. No further reason. (Why should we need one, after all ? ;-) )

    No, because all the other ones went there...so why is this one an exception?

    No, see, I don't think you grasp the issue at all.

    I think everyone grasps the issue. You want this motif in the crown store because all the others have been put into there. The question is; why can't there be exceptions? Why do all styles need to be in the crown store? Fairness isn't an argument as a lot of stuff is locked behind content gates. Want Maelstrom weapons, do the arena. Want PvP sets, PvP or buy them etc... Just because they have been putting motifs in the crown store doesn't mean they have to put them all in the crownstore. It isn't unfair, you have multiple ways to aquire them. PvP or pay a PvPer to get them for you.

    I don't care if it is or isn't. I think the style is ugly and won't be buying it anyway even though I do have the AP to purchase it.
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    Avidspark wrote: »

    No, because all the other ones went there...so why is this one an exception?

    Because they have been chosen as the PvP-exclusive item so that PvPers have something to spend AP on or convert AP into gold.

    (I think I've explained that already at some stage, LoL ;-) )



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    svartorn wrote: »
    svartorn wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Do you know how long it takes to earn Millions of AP? It takes quite a long time. The value of the motif is usually determined by the investment it takes to get it. Now I agree with you that the price is insane. But not the gold price. The AP price is insane.

    Not really. I get 150k a day on slow days.

    What exactly is a day to you?

    Cyrodiil for 2-3 hours with a good group of 8-12 people can net ~250k ap.

    That point is void, what good group would want to bring along someone who is new to pvp? From my experience only the inexperience take in inexperience and get farmed by like 2 or 3 guys with damn near infinite resources. So again unless you was just waving your Epeen that point is void.
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