RESURRECTION OF SORCERES CALLING ALL MAGES

Tonnopesce · June 2016

Since my sorcerer is one of my alts i dont use a uber equip in him.
Right now i'm testing a 5 VD ( due to the arcane jewels) 3 lich 4/3 magnus Dw /resto.
Is more of a open world solo build to get many kills as possibile i will not go in IC like this cuz the chances to step on @Dracane are higher

and i dont want to die.....

Cronopoly · June 2016

I am so frustrated with my Sorc as my Magicka NB can do everything in PVP my Sorc could damage wise and has a decent chance to survive well prior to enemy pressure arriving with Cloak.

My last try at Magicka Sorc was a Freeze build I recently saw talked about. Destro of course, with Ice Staff. Basically if I see a robe wearing Sorc, It works both ways, near free AP.

it sucks in principle. Knowing he/she's been nerfed to hell same as you.

I try to freeze em with Ice staff especially if they already dodge rolled once = Dead Sorc most times. Firestaff knockback actually put those on a wall in PVP in a safe LOS place after the knockback. Root is much better. Seems like 30% of the time if they don't "Macro CC" break they are dead. Yes that's a whole other topic...I don't use any currently, probably makes me not as responsive and a reason I haven't cleared VMA yet past the shield enrage Boss Stage 6 or 7, anyway...

The most frustrating Sorc I've gone up against lately has been a 9 Trait crafted 5 Piece Eternal Hunt wearing Stam Sorc with @Alcast's Blink Build. Near Perma dodger that moves fast as hell after Roll dodging due to Bow passives. Last two nights in a row, one of these guys has caused about 15 people to chase and not be able to hit him consistently for about 10 minutes inside a tower we captured.

If you want to cause chaos as noobs chase you incessantly...this is the one. I may give it a go once my last couple 9 Trait research is done on Medium armor. @Alcast's Blink Stam Sorc build

My own Rant / Opinion:
Just annoyed that Magicka Sorcs took it so bad as I always wanted to play a competitive Sorc. Its not like Sorcs were the only ones that benefited from from Vicious Death / Proxy Detonation that plagued the game for far too long. In typical fashion, It was made near useless, for such being the last skill in the PVP Assault tree which is odd...

With DB:
NB's, Templars, and DK's - Strong with Magicka & Stamina builds in PVE and PVP

Sorcerer has slightly better Stam builds that they had before. Slightly, however they don't compare with Stam Builds for the other 3 classes.

Magicka builds lost Dawnbreaker, Enemies with Near Perma 2 second immunity with Dodge roll, & Shuffle mechanics that make nearly all our Direct Damage abilities miss all the damn time routinely. Magicka still has Comet as the go to Ultimate. And while not dodgeable it seems to not really kill stam builds that just CC break , Vigor and move on.

Being that we are talking tactics, what can we do about incoming Stam 2H builds at 28 meters they dodge roll, Gap Close, WB, Dawnbreaker = You are dead in about 2 seconds if that long. With the Sharpened and Penetration we are seeing I've been in all Inpen and still get 2 or 3 shot with 25K health in PVP.

Also I'm wonder what is Light Armor good for then? What synergizes with it, aside from Magicka regen, and what good is it if half the time you die with > 80% Magicka pool as Burst occurs so quick today in PVP. I'm glad the OP put this thread here. Maybe some light will turn on... and to the guy that mentioned the Light attack bonus armor from Sanctum. Good luck with 1 clicking hitting dodge rollers once again... I'd be willing to bet that if someone had near perma Overload, they still would not have much better survivability. I've talked enough.

still pissed.

Cronopoly · June 2016

In another post recently, a player asked if a 10K heavy Flame Staff attack by a NB was possible as it was in his death recap. Here was my response, and I think Sorcs might already be using this method, and in the spirit of the OP direction I thought I'd share as many might not have researched this. I'd also like confirmation that it's worth it as well over Penetration etc...

I don't mind sharing though what i think has occured. There's a new build being talked about since DB came out and changes to Armor sets and Traits that synergise well together. I tailored it to my self and tried it tonight for about 4 hours in PVP on my new NB since I have shelved my Mag Sorc. (shameless Nerf plug) >.<

Following someone else's guide which I cannot find now May have been @PurpleSlushie
1) I put 58 CP points into Staff Damage which upped it by 17+ % approximately

2) New Infused Trait Increases Weapon enchantment effect by 17%, and reduces enchant cooldown by 40%.

3) I'm also wearing Torugs Pact 5 Piece with a new 5 piece bonus for Dark Brotherhood: Reduces weapon enchantment internal cooldown effect by 1 second, and increases the potency of the enchantment effect by 30%.

Soooo, my "Yellow" CP160 Flame Weapon Enchant that was created tonight at 2660 delve was buffed to 4633 on my Purple Infused Fire staff i used tonight. My New NB is also a Altmer High elf so gets fire bonus passive as well I believe.

Oh and I was charging these Opening Heavy attacks from Stealth. Add in the NB Cloak bonus and it might make sense. I don't think it was me though in retrospect as I was at range almost all the time tonight, and rarely got my Soul Harvest off as planned lol. Too many speedy Stam toons dodge rolling all over lol.

Azurya · June 2016

jwilkins66ub17_ESO wrote: »

With DB:
NB's, Templars, and DK's - Strong with Magicka & Stamina builds in PVE and PVP

Sorcerer has slightly better Stam builds that they had before. Slightly, however they don't compare with Stam Builds for the other 3 classes.

well, you are doing something definitely terrible wrong, if this is really your experience right now.
My Stamsorc rocks so hard since the last DLC! She was already very good, but now she is heaven to play!
And therefor I didn´t change anything to the gear so far, although planing to do with her vMA, to get some proper weapons, to hit even harder.
She even hits harder then my Stamblades

Cronopoly · June 2016

Dont get me wrong. I have a Stamblade too, and with nearly the same setup, I perform better in PVP using my Templar, Nightblade and definitely my DK. That's all. Nothing too serious.

My Templar is more survivable of course, My Nightblade well you know, is primarily built for Stamina. and my DK's enjoys the crazy damage with poison passives and skills.

I'm not saying Stam Sorcs are not fun. They are very fun to play to your point. I too am taking mine back into vMA as well. On my recent try last week. I got to stage 7 with no problems and only having a few practice runs under my belt.

I think my former statement of them being only slightly better off from what they were before. They've been fun for awhile. The only thing that has changed is Hurricane for the most part. sometimes I use it in PVP and other times I don't. I even made the mistake of having it on in vMA and lo and behold it killed the Shield Mob on stage 6 or 7. The Boss's enrage killed me lol. That's "terribly wrong" on my part admittedly so. Nothing else can be surmised as we don't know each other, so I don't know what you are doing terribly right. Golden rule.

juhasman · June 2016

ForsakenSin wrote: »

back on topic

has anybody had any good build based on stamina with using all med armor and getting hurricane ? if so what armor did you use / weapons and what was the hurricanes base and max damage ?

I am running 5 Vicious ophidian 5 TBS, malestorm dual wield(axe and dagger, 1 sharp 1 precise) and bow. I am able to do vMA in this setup. I am running 7 medium. Max tick from hurricane in pve is 6k i think.

Destyran · June 2016

4 shadow walker 3 kags(resto) 1 kena 3 will power. Maelstrom inferno staff. Get 49k magicka easy with that.

Tonnopesce · June 2016

Destyran wrote: »

4 shadow walker 3 kags(resto) 1 kena 3 will power. Maelstrom inferno staff. Get 49k magicka easy with that.

Undaunted passives + some mages guild skills i suppose?
And the spell damage is?

Cronopoly · June 2016

Destyran wrote: »

4 shadow walker 3 kags(resto) 1 kena 3 will power. Maelstrom inferno staff. Get 49k magicka easy with that.

I'm sure you meant Shadow Dancer and not the Stamina giving Shadow Walker.

Shadow Dancer:
(2 items) Adds 967 Max Magicka
(3 items) Adds 967 Max Magicka
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage

Shadow Walker:
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 967 Max Stamina
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery

ForsakenSin · June 2016

Hmmm Vicious ophidian sounds very interesting where is the best place to farm it ?

ForsakenSin · June 2016

Btw thank you guys for allot of amazing ideas for stam sorc and mag sorc