Honestly I don't see how people think this is a nerf. Shields are usually gone within 6 seconds in combat anyways, and when I'm fighting sorcs they usually reapply every 4-6 seconds. Annulment now absorbs physical damage as well and most sorcs stack these 2 shields.
Honestly I don't see how people think this is a nerf. Shields are usually gone within 6 seconds in combat anyways, and when I'm fighting sorcs they usually reapply every 4-6 seconds. Annulment now absorbs physical damage as well and most sorcs stack these 2 shields.
Emma_Eunjung wrote: »So I was optimistic when I first jumped on the PTS, then I ran into THIS guy...
LOL, WHAT? Is this what ZOS calls "balancing stamina"?
They needed to nerf my Ward for this???
By the way I DID kill that guy after 3 or 4 tries, but it wasn't easy and I think he might have been AFK, LOL.
Khaos_Bane wrote: »Honestly I don't see how people think this is a nerf. Shields are usually gone within 6 seconds in combat anyways, and when I'm fighting sorcs they usually reapply every 4-6 seconds. Annulment now absorbs physical damage as well and most sorcs stack these 2 shields.
Because it's six seconds and there is a ton of CC that can outlast the shield. You won't have time to apply two shields and do DPS with 6 second duration. Every class can now get a shield as well as STA. So you don't see how it can be a nerf? Come n.
shield duration is annoying - maybe 10-12 seconds would have been bearable. The dawnbreaker change is by far the worst for my sorc. Dawnbreaker of smiting has such good synergy with the sorc rotation. Please rethink this change otherwise what is our option for cheap ulti like that?
Emma_Eunjung wrote: »So I was optimistic when I first jumped on the PTS, then I ran into THIS guy...
LOL, WHAT? Is this what ZOS calls "balancing stamina"?
They needed to nerf my Ward for this???
By the way I DID kill that guy after 3 or 4 tries, but it wasn't easy and I think he might have been AFK, LOL.
Honestly I don't see how people think this is a nerf. Shields are usually gone within 6 seconds in combat anyways, and when I'm fighting sorcs they usually reapply every 4-6 seconds. Annulment now absorbs physical damage as well and most sorcs stack these 2 shields.
bowmanz607 wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »Honestly I don't see how people think this is a nerf. Shields are usually gone within 6 seconds in combat anyways, and when I'm fighting sorcs they usually reapply every 4-6 seconds. Annulment now absorbs physical damage as well and most sorcs stack these 2 shields.
Because it's six seconds and there is a ton of CC that can outlast the shield. You won't have time to apply two shields and do DPS with 6 second duration. Every class can now get a shield as well as STA. So you don't see how it can be a nerf? Come n.
isnt that the point. now a sorc has to decide to defend or attack.
So it encourages sorcerers to play smart. What's the big deal. I'm a sorcerer and I don't see this as an issue. Something had to be done about sorcerers they are simply too strong in PvP.
Get on Pts. fight someone with fear. ur going to lose every single time.
Khaos_Bane wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »Honestly I don't see how people think this is a nerf. Shields are usually gone within 6 seconds in combat anyways, and when I'm fighting sorcs they usually reapply every 4-6 seconds. Annulment now absorbs physical damage as well and most sorcs stack these 2 shields.
Because it's six seconds and there is a ton of CC that can outlast the shield. You won't have time to apply two shields and do DPS with 6 second duration. Every class can now get a shield as well as STA. So you don't see how it can be a nerf? Come n.
isnt that the point. now a sorc has to decide to defend or attack.
I was explaining to Zabus how it was a nerf because he "Honestly couldn't see how people think this is a nerf." So to recap, hardened ward duration went from 20 seconds to 6 seconds and every other class has a shield that has the same effect whether STA build or MAG.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »It's also worth noting that there were many, many other changes to Sorcerers - not just the two listed in the first post. It may be worth looking at all the changes as a bigger picture, and remembering those while testing out the changes on the PTS.
i did, and the ward change is the only one i take issue with. i believe a far more reasonable change is 10 sec and 12 sec, the way it is now is just far far far to much of a reduction
That's fair. Shields as a whole is something that got changed so it's worth trying these out (maybe even in Cyrodiil against other players) to see how it feels. We'll be publishing individual feedback threads for all the classes in a bit, and you can post your thoughts there after giving it a test run.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »It's also worth noting that there were many, many other changes to Sorcerers - not just the two listed in the first post. It may be worth looking at all the changes as a bigger picture, and remembering those while testing out the changes on the PTS.
Not really the issue. The reason i loved sorc was because it wasn't spammy. this change just turned it into you now have spam your defense and i hate that ***. you have no choice now, spam or gtfo.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »It's also worth noting that there were many, many other changes to Sorcerers - not just the two listed in the first post. It may be worth looking at all the changes as a bigger picture, and remembering those while testing out the changes on the PTS.
bowmanz607 wrote: »
Not really the issue. The reason i loved sorc was because it wasn't spammy. this change just turned it into you now have spam your defense and i hate that ***. you have no choice now, spam or gtfo.
Yes because spam=once every 6 seconds.
bowmanz607 wrote: »
Not really the issue. The reason i loved sorc was because it wasn't spammy. this change just turned it into you now have spam your defense and i hate that ***. you have no choice now, spam or gtfo.
Yes because spam=once every 6 seconds.
more like every 2-3 seconds. and yes it is spammy and not just for sorcs.
bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »
Not really the issue. The reason i loved sorc was because it wasn't spammy. this change just turned it into you now have spam your defense and i hate that ***. you have no choice now, spam or gtfo.
Yes because spam=once every 6 seconds.
more like every 2-3 seconds. and yes it is spammy and not just for sorcs.
If your hitting your shields every 2 or 3 seconds, this nerf doesn't apply to you anyway because it is still being used before it is expired. I'm sorry but having to time your shields in 6 second windows is fine. Other players do this sort of thing on the regular. The most popular one being vigor. This is not the nerf everyone thinks it is. Just merely a bunch of overreacting fools who probably don't even realize how often they currently apply their shields and that 20 seconds was really a waste when someone is constantly attacking you anyway.
Conjured Ward: Reduced the duration of this ability and the Hardened Ward morph to 6 seconds from 20 seconds.
Empowered Ward (Conjured Ward morph): Reduced the duration of this morph to 8 seconds from 20 seconds.
Idk what to say..
bowmanz607 wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »
Not really the issue. The reason i loved sorc was because it wasn't spammy. this change just turned it into you now have spam your defense and i hate that ***. you have no choice now, spam or gtfo.
Yes because spam=once every 6 seconds.
more like every 2-3 seconds. and yes it is spammy and not just for sorcs.
If your hitting your shields every 2 or 3 seconds, this nerf doesn't apply to you anyway because it is still being used before it is expired. I'm sorry but having to time your shields in 6 second windows is fine. Other players do this sort of thing on the regular. The most popular one being vigor. This is not the nerf everyone thinks it is. Just merely a bunch of overreacting fools who probably don't even realize how often they currently apply their shields and that 20 seconds was really a waste when someone is constantly attacking you anyway.
lemme get this straight here. I say " i loved the sorc because it wasn't spammy" and your rebuttal is "well other classes spam"....... like really dude?.