Brrrofski wrote: »

davidtxr wrote: »

I prefer running in small groups more fun that way

And proxy isn't used on small groups?

It needs to do 2k then add 100% per every additional target in the radius up to like 6. So 2k against one, maxes at 12k

No one would slot a 12k tooltip 'zergbuster'

Idea, causes the game to calculate one more thing so maybe a good one or bad one who knows, proxy det's damage is reduced by X% for each ally around the caster (8m radius) on cast.

Just delete proxy and replace it with a ranged channeled aoe that renders you unable to move as you cast it, could also add a cast time before the channeling aswell or something like that.

Or or or.....

You could tweak the numbers and make the scaling Exponential instead of Linear.

What does this solve?

Well instead of getting 50% extra damage for hitting 5 people, it would be somthing much lower, some where in the 5-12% range.

However if you hit 10+ people it will still scale vary hard (almost just as hard as if it were linear).

Now you wont be getting shreked small scale and it will be used for its design. Which is zerg bombing.

Its very simple.

1Grumpy_dunmer1 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Or or or.....

You could tweak the numbers and make the scaling Exponential instead of Linear.

What does this solve?

Well instead of getting 50% extra damage for hitting 5 people, it would be somthing much lower, some where in the 5-12% range.

However if you hit 10+ people it will still scale vary hard (almost just as hard as if it were linear).

Now you wont be getting shreked small scale and it will be used for its design. Which is zerg bombing.

Its very simple.

I like your idea but I also like the damage I get when I get attacked by a group of 3-6 gap close spammers. If they are smart they will attack in twos or use a ranged attack( bow or staff) but they all want dive in and proxy punishes them for making poor choices. I also like the idea of nerfing its damage for allies within a certain radius I think that would stop the zergs from slotting it.

It would be nice if damage was also reduced for how many allies are in the radius like you said.

However if 6 people gap close you, you should not be able to wreck with proxi. The base damage of proxi is already pretty stronge. How could you compare the same thing happening to someone stamina or without proxi? 60% extra damage against 6 people is way overboard when its design was for zerg scale.

Your not punishing 6 players jumping you. In reality your cheeseing them with a broken skill being abused in small scale.

Proxi needs a change. You cant lie its cheese for small scale.

You could claim 6 people having the ability to gap close you is another issue though.


About gap closers...

Personally gap closers need to applie a debuff that does not allow anyone else to gap close on them either. This is just somthing ive always thought about to fix gap closers.

Sooner or later you'll just have 6 people snipe you instead of gap close because of how stupid proxi is killing small scale or with this gap closer debuff i suggested.

Then we will have the same mess. Everyone is spread out but spamming ranged attacks. Proxi wont work but zergs will still win.


So many things need to be done for progress of pvp large and small scale.

Proxi is a problem and gap closer spam is aswell.

In the end numbers win, smart plays win, flanking etc.

Siege and keeps will always be the counter because 20_20 siege is max too.


So much to consider. Most people on the forums imo look at the small picture. Just 1 or 2 things at a time. When there is a big picture too.

Zerg warfrare should still exist. I want huge battles. I dont get why so many people complain and only want this small scale. Sure lag is a big concern but other then that, man up and fight with your alliance.

This comment is already getting to long so ill stop it here.

If you want to kill zergs, just make it so that if you use an aoe skill, all allied players within 100 meters of you die.

There, problem solved.