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Assisstant?? really???

lihentian
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Not sure if its me.. but i couldn't find any use for this smuggler assistant.. i mean 35% fee make perfect sense.. if we are not limited in number of item fence per day..

stealing and searching for value is not that easy, it may take hours to fill your bag with valuable... and now you want a 35% cut only to save a few minute of time??

some people claim that it will help avoid losing stolen item to the guard.. which is not true. if you are spotted while stealing/pick pocketing and a guard is near by, he/she will approach you without giving you any time to use this assistant.. and if you are not been chased right away you could always use a EDICT to clear your bounty, or perhaps hide a few minute.. goes offline or player another character.. or you could risk your way to the hideout with cleaver hiding or invisibly potion...

the fact is, by paying bounty and using this assistant clearly state that you do not care for money.. and if you don't care about money why bother steal at the first place??

Suggestion: change it so that it will fence are regular price, and you can pay bounty to the assistant at 35% extra in price..

p.s. Also to out run a guard isn't that hard.. plus thieves guild passive will help you get away from mess or decrease the time of waiting for bounty to goes away...
  • Waseem
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    some people like to avoid loading screen in ESO
    loading screens in ESO lasts more than 10 seconds
  • Necrelios
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    The assistant doesn't launder stolen items either, only fences them so it's doubly useless.
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  • lihentian
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    Waseem wrote: »
    some people like to avoid loading screen in ESO
    loading screens in ESO lasts more than 10 seconds

    true, but thats no reason to charge 35% fencing fee..or is it? how would you like the upcoming bank assistant to randomly stolen item from your bank.. and the store npc to randomly pickpocket you while trading?
  • babylon
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    lihentian wrote: »
    Not sure if its me.. but i couldn't find any use for this smuggler assistant.. i mean 35% fee make perfect sense.. if we are not limited in number of item fence per day..

    Suggestion: change it so that it will fence are regular price, and you can pay bounty to the assistant at 35% extra in price...

    With that 35% cut it would at least be reasonable to greatly increase the limit on fencing stolen items (like by 200 times what your limit is now! or so, because this fence total limit alongside the issue with stacks of items being counted individually as part of the limit and not just the stack being counted as one off the limit), and certainly this assistant needs to be able to launder as well.

    Either remove the 35% cut, or greatly (x200) increase limit you can fence with this assistant, and/or make stacks count as one off the limit total and not each item individually despite it being a tidy stack, and allow us to launder at this assistant and allow us to pay bounties at this assistant.

    It's DLC content ZOS, it should be worthy, and these changes properly considered would not be at all OP.
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    Also, she's bugged so that anyone can interact with her, not just the player who has her active. So much for exclusivity towards impracticality.
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    crown store upgrade is going to allow you to use assistant as a regular merchant .... soon.. but that's crown store
  • BlackEar
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    Also, she's bugged so that anyone can interact with her, not just the player who has her active. So much for exclusivity towards impracticality.

    Is that a confirmed bug? I thought it was a neat feature. I do not sharing my assistant. Even more if she could share some of her cut ;)
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  • Acrolas
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    I feel bad for Pirharri. She'd probably make more money if she sold catnip training dummies on Khajiitstarter.
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  • bikerangelo
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    Also, she's bugged so that anyone can interact with her, not just the player who has her active. So much for exclusivity towards impracticality.

    Is that a confirmed bug? I thought it was a neat feature. I do not sharing my assistant. Even more if she could share some of her cut ;)

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  • sneakymitchell
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    They dont want players to get rich off of thieving even though you suppose to get rich when stealing in the thieves guild and the guards can easily one shot any player.

    So ZOS WANTS YOU TO GRIND!!!!!
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  • KhajiitiLizard
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    So ZOS WANTS YOU TO GRIND!!!!!

    That would explain why people started to randomly get naked....

  • Elephant42
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    This is yet another useless (to me) bit of ESO content that I will never bother with. Great idea totally ruined by that ridiculous fee - even 10% would be too much.
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    ^ agreed, either take off the fee or raise the limit substantially.
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  • Lysette
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    If the smuggler is not able to launder items, why would I want her in the first place - I would still have to go to a regular fence.
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    To be honest, just adding the ability to launder would be worthwhile for people searching for, say, a certain piece of civilian clothing for RP or whatever. When you get a lucky find with a corseted long dress or long-sleeved tunic, there is nothing more nerve-wracking than trying to sneak across the whole city because someone magically saw you snagging something with the eyes in the back of their head. Being able to call in Pirharri and launder them then and there would, on its own, make her worthwhile to me.

    But as it is? Why bother? I'd rather risk losing all my items to get the full price than use her. Especially if I'm on my magicka nightblade. Sure, that means going to launder is easier as well, but it's still a risk I'd rather avoid if I can when it comes to something I want to launder and keep compared to items I'm just gonna sell anyway.
    Edited by DerAlleinTiger on 13 March 2016 20:39
  • Miszou
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    Complaining about a thieves assistant taking your money that you earned by stealing.

    Such delicious irony...
  • Runs
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    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.
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  • HebrewHatchet
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    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.
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  • Veske_Valrune
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    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    Seconded, only time I steal is to level leger anyway.
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  • lihentian
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    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused
  • badbeansnub18_ESO
    First all really.... really do we really even need an "assistant?" Is it such a bother for you to spend 2 or 3 minutes porting to a thieves den and selling? Then you complain about it? sheesh.

    Games these days continue to get dumbed down... Might as well just have a game that plays itself so I don't need to even log in.
  • NateAssassin
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    Pirharri is really the winner here and the real thief, she's managed to steal from the player and they think they are just getting assistance hahaha
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  • Necrelios
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    On the other hand, if you just want to max your legerdemain skill more efficiently, she comes in handy for that since you still get the full xp for fencing stolen items to her. So I guess she is kind of useful, in her own way :D .
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  • lihentian
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    Necrelios wrote: »
    On the other hand, if you just want to max your legerdemain skill more efficiently, she comes in handy for that since you still get the full xp for fencing stolen items to her. So I guess she is kind of useful, in her own way :D .

    mind i ask why bother leveling legerdemain skill? i mean you are still limited to the number of sale per day.. would you like to use this assistant and earn 2/3 of the money in 50 minute.. or you rather earn full amount in 52 minute? it only take a minute or two to get to the refuge...

    am not sure about you.. but i level legerdemain to earn cash...they certainly don't help with pvp or pve...
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    lihentian wrote: »
    Necrelios wrote: »
    On the other hand, if you just want to max your legerdemain skill more efficiently, she comes in handy for that since you still get the full xp for fencing stolen items to her. So I guess she is kind of useful, in her own way :D .

    mind i ask why bother leveling legerdemain skill? i mean you are still limited to the number of sale per day.. would you like to use this assistant and earn 2/3 of the money in 50 minute.. or you rather earn full amount in 52 minute? it only take a minute or two to get to the refuge...

    am not sure about you.. but i level legerdemain to earn cash...they certainly don't help with pvp or pve...
    It definitely helps with both PVE and PVP. The 4 ranks of Improved Hiding are useful for sneaking around in both PVE and especially PVP. The 4 ranks of Locksmith are useful for PVE - especially when you're running vWGT. If you don't have that maxed out and you're relying on picking the lock to get out in the middle of that fight, you stand a very good chance of not making it out in time.
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  • Necrelios
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    lihentian wrote: »
    Necrelios wrote: »
    On the other hand, if you just want to max your legerdemain skill more efficiently, she comes in handy for that since you still get the full xp for fencing stolen items to her. So I guess she is kind of useful, in her own way :D .

    mind i ask why bother leveling legerdemain skill? i mean you are still limited to the number of sale per day.. would you like to use this assistant and earn 2/3 of the money in 50 minute.. or you rather earn full amount in 52 minute? it only take a minute or two to get to the refuge...

    am not sure about you.. but i level legerdemain to earn cash...they certainly don't help with pvp or pve...

    Sure you'll loose some gold this way, but there really are much faster ways to earn gold. Having level 20 legerdemain helps immensely for conquering those thieves guild daily heists though. It's a pain on my alt character who doesn't have max legerdemain yet so that's really the only reason I'm trying to get through it. Plus I like to have every skill maxed anyways just for posterity.
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    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused

    You found their comment hard to understand?

    They are just stealing as then play the game. That doesn't mean that they want to travel into town to exchange. Some people may have full inventories. They want to spend their time doing other things in the world that aren't inventory management.

    I think your 5k estimate is waaaaay off. People who are only "stealing passively" probably don't even steal 5k total daily. I almost never max my selling and laundering and I don't even have the passives maxed. But I still end up with full inventory and find it annoying to sell/deconstruct/bank/fence. I am too cheap to sell to an assistant, but I can understand why it would be worth it for some.
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused

    You found their comment hard to understand?

    They are just stealing as then play the game. That doesn't mean that they want to travel into town to exchange. Some people may have full inventories. They want to spend their time doing other things in the world that aren't inventory management.

    I think your 5k estimate is waaaaay off. People who are only "stealing passively" probably don't even steal 5k total daily. I almost never max my selling and laundering and I don't even have the passives maxed. But I still end up with full inventory and find it annoying to sell/deconstruct/bank/fence. I am too cheap to sell to an assistant, but I can understand why it would be worth it for some.

    well if they are not't stealing enough to make a difference, then there won't be a difference.. though i do find it hard to understand why people enjoy that 35% reduction. oh well, ill pretend i never get that damn assistant.. end of the topic
  • DaveMoeDee
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    lihentian wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused

    You found their comment hard to understand?

    They are just stealing as then play the game. That doesn't mean that they want to travel into town to exchange. Some people may have full inventories. They want to spend their time doing other things in the world that aren't inventory management.

    I think your 5k estimate is waaaaay off. People who are only "stealing passively" probably don't even steal 5k total daily. I almost never max my selling and laundering and I don't even have the passives maxed. But I still end up with full inventory and find it annoying to sell/deconstruct/bank/fence. I am too cheap to sell to an assistant, but I can understand why it would be worth it for some.

    well if they are not't stealing enough to make a difference, then there won't be a difference.. though i do find it hard to understand why people enjoy that 35% reduction. oh well, ill pretend i never get that damn assistant.. end of the topic

    They don't "enjoy that 35% reduction". They just don't want to have to return to town -- which will take more than 2 minutes. And 65 gold may not be 100 gold, but it is substantial.

    If you are going to talk like that, mischaracterizing people's motivations, you will never understand people who aren't you.

    Instead of championing a naive position that "the assistant is useless", how about asking how many people are using it to find out how useful it is. Of course there is going to be a cost that some will find too much. It isn't meant to provide everything. It is meant for people who really want convenience. I will take full price fencing over convenience. Many will choose convenience.
  • lihentian
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    lihentian wrote: »
    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused
    lihentian wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    I don't mind the 35% fee personally. I understand why they made it not able to pay off your bounty. Don't get me wrong I would totally love to use that feature but it would be overly OP. It would break what little justice there is.

    On to laundering, obviously when we get something worth thousands at trader we would like to launder it asap so we dont lose it. Again kind of breaking justice.

    There could have been, should have been some compromise. I think a fair compromise would be 35% fee, no laundering if you have a bounty. If you do not have a bounty no extra fee and he could launder your items.

    mind if i ask what sort of "little justice" were you referring to? everyone do thieves guild quest should have tones of EDICT in their bag, which clear all bounty instantly... and if you weren't caught at the first place you could always park yourself for several minutes to clear all the bounty.

    plus thieves guild line is all about making bounty go away faster, make guard ignore you.. or instantly teleport to the hideout.


    I Ike it, I only steal passively and this is perfect for me, I can dump my stolen items without having to make my way to a refuge which is never really worth it for me. This will help players like me.

    you are tossing 5k gold a day into the water.. if you don't need the gold then why bother stealing at all? confused

    You found their comment hard to understand?

    They are just stealing as then play the game. That doesn't mean that they want to travel into town to exchange. Some people may have full inventories. They want to spend their time doing other things in the world that aren't inventory management.

    I think your 5k estimate is waaaaay off. People who are only "stealing passively" probably don't even steal 5k total daily. I almost never max my selling and laundering and I don't even have the passives maxed. But I still end up with full inventory and find it annoying to sell/deconstruct/bank/fence. I am too cheap to sell to an assistant, but I can understand why it would be worth it for some.

    well if they are not't stealing enough to make a difference, then there won't be a difference.. though i do find it hard to understand why people enjoy that 35% reduction. oh well, ill pretend i never get that damn assistant.. end of the topic

    They don't "enjoy that 35% reduction". They just don't want to have to return to town -- which will take more than 2 minutes. And 65 gold may not be 100 gold, but it is substantial.

    If you are going to talk like that, mischaracterizing people's motivations, you will never understand people who aren't you.

    Instead of championing a naive position that "the assistant is useless", how about asking how many people are using it to find out how useful it is. Of course there is going to be a cost that some will find too much. It isn't meant to provide everything. It is meant for people who really want convenience. I will take full price fencing over convenience. Many will choose convenience.

    The assistant is a reward from DLC, not an merchandise in crown store.. i doubt Zax care anything about how many people ever use it. to them this is perhaps more of an Mementos.. otherwise they definitely would have throwing it in the crown store~~

    If all people are unhappy about it, there just might be enough voice to give them a second thought. but as long as there are those people who are happy as things were, i doubt anything will ever be done. after all why waste time and money to modify a flavor item when there are people liking it..

    so.. ill give up.. you were right, i was naive.. i was trying to make an statement. .but instead people are here to argue. =) am done with this topic
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